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I have a small budget/house. So I bought a Nu-Tec LCD LED TV that was on offer in Coles for $276.

A franchisee installer did a test......? and installed. It was reasonable at first, but got worse!

(I went and brought another prior to the problems, it was still in its box after 3 weeks!)

The TV needed somehow to warm up before I got any reasonable signal, (North Adelaide-line of sight to Mt L). Braking-up/'chirping' losing channels ( I could not get ABC at all for the last 48hours).

That all changed this morning.

I contacted Marsden Antennas after seeing a recomm on another tech' site.

These two guys knew exactly what they were doing! They tried to retain my current 15 yo antenna, but close inspection showed a rusted and very amateurish connection that had let water in!(They showed it to me!)

I got: a new antenna/( cabling to the lounge was also faulty!! signal strength was poor)/ a new antenna point in a better location/ new antenna point in the bedroom/ and unpack-installation-test of that set as well: $275!

What I learned from this is that you can't cut corners. It is WAY better to find experienced professionals.

I have NO connection (no pun intended!!) with Marsdens. I took a punt that they were good;-and they were. They showed me read-outs, and kept me 'in the loop' all the way through.

As a Senior and a pensioner I cannot afford to squander money. Who can?

ANY good service professional deserves word of mouth recommendation. That is why I am relating this.

I hope all remains well!!, but the difference between the two companies was chasmic!!!

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And one more thing: I DID manage to get ACE on 44 very clearly. Marsdens explained why. ACE (C31) went over to a digital signal on C44 last week!

Good to hear your reception problems were solved and good advice for anyone considering having antennas & associated work performed.

Unfortunately, just because a person installs antennas for a living (eg: a 'professional') doesn't mean they actually know what they are doing and that they provide quality work.

This is all-too-common with many franchise-type antenna installers.

In fairness, some are ok, but others are very poor. It can be pure luck which one you get on the day!

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Good to hear your reception problems were solved and good advice for anyone considering having antennas & associated work performed.

Unfortunately, just because a person installs antennas for a living (eg: a 'professional') doesn't mean they actually know what they are doing and that they provide quality work.

This is all-too-common with many franchise-type antenna installers.

In fairness, some are ok, but others are very poor. It can be pure luck which one you get on the day!

That's true MTV.

I was in a franchise car repair place for re-gassing of my air-con. The group has a bad name in SA, but that branch is very good, and seems embarrassed by the reputation of the whole.

The irony is that when I was in there some months ago, a fella was there fixing the TV in their wait room. He was from a well-known TV antenna franchise. I took his business card.......and the rest as they say;-is history!! B)

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Hi All

Was wondering which antenna I should buy.

I live on the beach side of the railway line at Hallett Cove in a valley, so recepetion is poor.

My original 20 year old antenna was on a 15 ft pole, and analogue TV was hit and miss, digital was perfect apart from the ocassional drop out from channel 10 and one.

I am hoping to get away with a eave mounted new digital antenna with a mast head amplifier (the big pole with all the guy wires was a real eye sore, but will revert to it if required).

So any recommendations on Make and Models of antennas and or amplifiers?

Thanks in Advance

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vnbozza,

There is a designed for digital list of recommended antennas in the first post in this strand. You will have to look at the transmitter list first to find out if there is a more appropriate translator than the main transmitters on Mt Lofty.

There is a link to a list of recommended models which are links to the manufacturers' websites.

If you do not wish to use the guyed mast then you need to get an antenna installer to measure the digital signal strength and error rates. The guyed mast also should be inspected for safety and it is also likely that your cable should be replaced, because of all the time its been in the weather.

AlanH

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Hi All,

I am located in North Adelaide

I get intermittent digital reception, sadly though i am renting a place and so am not able to install a external antenna, i understand from reading that indoor antennas are pretty much last resort for digital, however i think that im at this stage. To compound this problem the place im in is solid stone and the roof is corrugated iron.

I have noticed Jaycar have an indoor outdoor 10dBi antenna, that does 40dBi if you use power injector, would this rectify my problem?

Thanks

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pat face,

Have you tried picking up the Adelaide foothills translators in Grenfell St City? You also could try the ABC/SBS translators in Elizabeth, however the antenna has to be on its side. Try the Jaycar model I recommended in my Indoor antenna post. Remember at UHF it is much more directional.

You will have to do a full scan of channels on each try.

AlanH

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Can anyone please explain why this might be happening...

I get perfect, flawless reception for all the ABC channels (1,2,HD,radio), with Signal Quality 85-99 and Signal Strength 99 constantly. However I can't pick up any other channels, at all.

I'm using bunny ears, Radio Shack ones with a knob on the base which seems to adjust the reception somehow.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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dallaz,

Firstly is there a power pack which plugs into the antenna for its amplifier. If so turn the knob anticlockwise and rescan for channels.

Also read the first post in this strand. There are a number of translators around Adelaide. One may be near you? Use the transmitter link to give you the list and the antenna group.

You can also click on coverage areas for the maps.

Now click on the indoor antenna link for more advice.

If that does not solve your problem, then post with your location, type and brand of receiver and whether you are in a house or a multistory building.

AlanH

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Hi,

Firstly I'd like to congratulate you on such a very informative thread. I have read thru the begining and followed the links.

I live in Panorama way up on the hill facing the city directly. I have a clear line of site to the cbd and I have installed one of these antenna from Jaycar which is according to your links is suitable for my location. I have it pointing driectly at the black stump in grenfell st.

Unfortunately the channels are still hit and miss especially when the weather is inclement. Today its channel 7 that is pixelating. Some days It's 9.

Do you think that I might need a masthead amplifier? I dont want to call some guy who will sell me a new antenna that I dont need. I dont mind calling somone but it would be nice to think they were honest about what I might need.

Hope you can help me.

Paul

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Hope you can help me.

That antenna should be fine, providing it is mounted in the correct location, at the correct height, and all cabling & connections are industry standard.

Can you actually see the CBD from your location, or are there buildings/vegetation between the antenna, and where it is aimed at.

Is your PVR/TV tuned to the correct channels? Your antenna could be picking up Mt Lofty signals from the side, and your devices storing the available channels incorrectly, when doing an auto tune.

The best way to check this is not the case, would be to clear the channels from your reception devices (auto tune with antenna lead disconnected, power device off, plug antenna lead in, turn device back on), and then manually search for channels 54 (TEN), 57 (SEVEN), 61 (SBS), 64 (ABC), and 66 (NINE)

Without baseline signal measurements, my comments are a guide only.

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It's also possible at that distance, your signals are too strong with that antenna, causing tuner overload.

If that's the case, an amplifier would make the problem worse.

If signal overload is happening, you need to attenuate the signals, not amplify them.

Without having accurate signal measurements, it's impossible to know exactly what your signals are doing and what to recommend.

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The best way to check this is not the case, would be to clear the channels from your reception devices (auto tune with antenna lead disconnected, power device off, plug antenna lead in, turn device back on), and then manually search for channels 54 (TEN), 57 (SEVEN), 61 (SBS), 64 (ABC), and 66 (NINE)

Without baseline signal measurements, my comments are a guide only.

Thanks M'bozo I will gove this a try.

It's also possible at that distance, your signals are too strong with that antenna, causing tuner overload.

If that's the case, an amplifier would make the problem worse.

If signal overload is happening, you need to attenuate the signals, not amplify them.

Without having accurate signal measurements, it's impossible to know exactly what your signals are doing and what to recommend.

I guess its not possible to measure this without a professional?

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The best way to check this is not the case, would be to clear the channels from your reception devices (auto tune with antenna lead disconnected, power device off, plug antenna lead in, turn device back on), and then manually search for channels 54 (TEN), 57 (SEVEN), 61 (SBS), 64 (ABC), and 66 (NINE)

Thanks for the help. I tried this but it did not give any different results than an auto scan. There is no ch 10 now.

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Your signature indicates you have a Panasonic Plasma.

You can get the Signal Information screen up on this under the tuning menu, and analyse the reception indicators for the channels I mentioned before.

If everything is correct, both these should indicate 10.

If, as mtv suggests, you have too much signal, it is unlikely this what will display.

Additionally, if your signal is substandard, the same comment applies.

If you have too much signal, a quick and dirty trick is to slightly mis-align your antenna to see if conditions improve.

The type of antenna you are using has a sharp focus, so you may only need to change its direction by 5-10 degrees.

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Your signature indicates you have a Panasonic Plasma.

You can get the Signal Information screen up on this under the tuning menu, and analyse the reception indicators for the channels I mentioned before.

If everything is correct, both these should indicate 10.

If, as mtv suggests, you have too much signal, it is unlikely this what will display.

Additionally, if your signal is substandard, the same comment applies.

If you have too much signal, a quick and dirty trick is to slightly mis-align your antenna to see if conditions improve.

The type of antenna you are using has a sharp focus, so you may only need to change its direction by 5-10 degrees.

Thanks. I am using my topfield pvr for digital reception. I woke up this morning and tried to manually tune 10 and they all showed up! Could be the weather as it cleared up (last night was raining) but this is not a consistent thing its an ongoing thing, sometimes the channells are there for weeks and then 1 or 2 will drop out. I will refer back to this thread and follow your advice omce again if it happens.

Thanks for your time!

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Hi all ... first post :) ... We have just purchased a 40" Samsung Series 6 LED TV. It's our first digital, a monumental step up from our old LG CRT.

We have hooked up the Samsung to the existing antenna and Panasonic DVD HDD recorder. We had some initial setup/connection issues (due largely to our technical ineptitude) but generally speaking everything seems to be working OK ... Except for some intermittent loss of all the SBS channels. I initially thought it coincided with last week's bleak weather but the issue continued through yesterday which was relatively calm and sunny. We are at Aberfoyle Park ... in the "green" good reception zone. Our antenna is atop a 1.5 metre pole which protrudes through the tiled roofline at it's highest point. It is aligned in the direction suggested on the My Switch website map. Looking at the PDF diagrams provided by AlanH ours most resembles the one at the top of the page ... although it has 7 of the small elements at the front instead of 4.

Our old Panasonic DVD recorder is equipped with a digital/analogue TV receiver and over the past few years we have been able to successfully watch digital TV using this setup in combination with the old CRT TV (although not HD broadcasts). I'm guessing the antenna might need to be changed although I vaguely remember it being "digital ready" at purchase. Any ideas or suggestions?

Cheers

Greg

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Any ideas or suggestions?

Without accurate signal measurements at your property it's difficult to advise.

How long ago was the antenna installed?

How many TV points is it feeding?

Do you know if you have an amplifier in the system?

Can you post a picture of the antenna?

What is the reception of Adelaide 44 like?

Does SBS SD on the Panasonic recorder break up as well?

It may be helpful to get into the signal information screen of the Samsung, and check the readings for SBS and one of the other channels that doesn't break up, for comparative purposes.

I find problems such as you experience are sometimes caused by poor quality flyleads, and changing them to quadshield coax with crimp/compression connectors can solve the issue.

Is the television connected via the recorder, and if so, does SBS on the TV break up if the TV is connected direct to the wall outlet, bypassing the recorder?

Lots of questions, the more information supplied, the easier it may be to assist.

Marc.

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Thanks Marc ...

The antenna was installed 10 years ago (by me) ... can't remember where I got it from ... probably Hills.

4 T.V. points (but only 2 connected).

No amplifier.

Adelaide 44 is O.K.

SBS has been dropping out today but O.K. presently ... I will check the recorder next time I get a drop-out.

I can't seem to find a signal strength screen on the Samsung.

Don't know what you mean by "flyleads" and "quadshield coax"

T.V. is connected via the recorder (didn't know there was an alternative - doesn't it have to be like that to record T.V. broadcasts?).

I have tried a direct connection of antenna to T.V. and SBS still drops out.

Not too many questions as far as I'm concerned ... I need all the help I can get ... I appreciate the timely response

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Cheers,

Greg

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G'day Greg,

The antenna's not a good look, it may not be helping.

I'll be over your way Sunday morning, quite happy to call in & give a free appraisal.

(Over here picking up a 4x4, just killing time till I go back Tuesday. Don't have any test gear, came by Virgin, cheap as.)

Let me know if you're interested, I'll flash you a contact number.

Cheers,

Marc.

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Sounds good Marc ... I have a basic analogue multimeter ... Dick Smith from about 20 years ago ...

And I can brew a decent plunger coffee :)

Cheers,

Greg

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