I have a TEAC DBV 420 STB and wish to connect via the SCART connection to YPrPb connection on my Panasonic Television.

The Teac people tell me that they are easily available BUT

I can not find anywhere that sells such a cable. Some of the shops just look at me with a blank look........

Can anyone help ????

Thanks in anticipation.

http://www.crestonline.biz/product.php?PHP...&txtSearch=psa3

NC 2433 SCART-> component
NC 2613 SCART-> component + audio
from Neotech, Avico, http://estore.avico.com.au

If you want "true" component, then you will need a SCART-Component converter, and a "fully wired" SCART cable.

I got both from Len Wallis in Lane Cove - total cost about $280.

Check out www.australiandigitaltv.com.au aka Hantrex. They do the SCART-SCART fully wired for $12 and a RGB-Component converter for $119.

What's the difference between a normal SCART to component connection and a "fully wired" one? It's interesting that you should mention it though, because I tried a SCART-component adaptor from Tandy and noticed the picture quality was poorer than the SCART-component cable (+3 A/V cables) I was using earlier. I have since gone back to the SCART-component cable and the sharpness and colour look a lot better. Strange...

I was told that whilst there is only one plug, there are many possible wiring configurations.

I went from s-video to SCART/RGB-component (via the converter) on my DVD player and noticed a significant improvement in PQ.

Len Wallis are recommending this set-up for the best PQ on Foxtel configurations.

With respect to the TEAC-420, it outputs Component YCrCb or RGB from it's SCART output if selected. This is "true" component, if you add an RGB-Component converter you will only add a further process that will reduce the quality. For Foxtel at this point a RGB-Component converter is required untill Foxtel allow Component (YCrCb) to be output direct from the box just as the TEAC-420 allows.

Regards

Cyril

marty007


Wiring a SCART plug to RCA plugs to carry component video from TEAC 420 DTV
Receiver.

PIN 5 BLUE GROUND

PIN 9 GREEN GROUND

PIN 13 RED GROUND

PIN 7 BLUE SIGNAL

PIN 11 GREEN SIGNAL

PIN 15 RED SIGNAL

Also can carry composite video PIN 17 video ground, PIN 19 video signal

Stereo audio is carried. PIN 1 Right audio channel

PIN 3 Left audio channel

PIN 4 common audio ground

It seems difficult tto purchase such a cable. See if you can have a local electronic repair shop- make one up for you, or you may have a friend who can use a soldering iron. it's not difficult.
Regards
Tahoma

I have the same box and purchased the connector at DSE.

http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefro...duct/View/P6676

Bose, that is the scart adapter I used and I got significantly poorer PQ through it. I would recommend getting a gold-plated SCART-component + 3A/V cable (mine is a MAXCABLE) because the PQ is about 33% better, especially noticable with the colours. I don't know why it would make any difference since the wiring should be the same as with the adapter.

There seems to be some confusion about the difference between RGB and Component Video (YUV, YPbPr, YCbCr, whatever you wanna call it). To my knowledge RGB is a different set of pins on the SCART adapter and carries Red Green and Blue information and provides the highest possible picture quality. Component Video, as I understand it, is Chrominance, Luminance and something else...can't remember. So why do people think RGB and Component Video are the same thing? Is it cause the cables are coloured R, G and B? Or are they actually the same thing?

Just a note on the DV-B420, I think it needs to have the sound channels reversed. Using the SCART cable I noticed L&R are switched and needed to swap cables around. Either the cable is wired wrongly or the STB's software is incorrect. Haven't tested the STB's RCA audio outs.,..anyone noticed this?

Ikari, RGB and YUV Component are both component video signals, but the latter is a matrix of the former. Camera pickups, and Display deivces are inherently RGB, MPEG and most video processing methods are YUV, and for very sound reasons.

SCART was never designed to carry YUV only RGB, however there is no reason why not, hence many STB's now transport YUV via SCART. In this situation the SCART connector carries Y on the G, U on the R and V on the B channels. composite video is also sent on the SCART regardless of RGB or YUV being sent. When RGB is sent the Composite feed is required to carry Sync info, when YUV is sent, Sync is also sent on the Y channel.

Regards

Cyril

Yep, so if the DVD player/STB supports YUV over SCART, and the TV does the same, then definitely a fully wired scart-scart cable is going to do the trick just fine (although if both have scart, then both are likely to support RGB, so this is the better connection to go with I reckon).
Regards

I used the DSE scart to component adapter from my toppy and was happy with the picture quality, I went ahead and brought the Hantrex RGB to component converter and fitted it. Beware remember to change the signal in the toppy menu before changing, I went ahead and fitted the converter and couldn't get a picture (I made a mental note to change it before hand), I looked in the toppy manual to try and get through the menu and change the output blind, so 30 minutes of swearing later and switching back to the adapter I got a s-video cable, got a picture back, changed it then fitted the converter again.
It was a major pain in the arse for a simple job but using this converter and the toppy's RGB output the picture was more vibrant.

Yes, it's the same with the DV-B420. I've since learned to do it blind I can even do a factory reset and manual tune blind HOW COOL AM I!!!

I have seen a 3 metre SCART-YPrPb video/L-R audio cable in JB Hi-Fi.
Can't remember what the price is.

Has anyone seen a cable that is capable of going the other way?? ie RGB or component YUV to SCART??

I have crest's scart to YUV+Audio cable. it can also work the way you want. It's got a switch on the scart plug to set the direction.

I'm loving this cable, it's cheap and picture quality is excellent.

There is no direction with respect to the RGB or UYV channels, only the composite feeds, which are not used when using YUV.

Regards

Cyril

Just moving on with this - I have not been able to find any DVD Burners that have YPbPr IN, that's IN (not out, they all have component out). They all only seem to have composite, svid or SCART IN.

Now I'm thinking with this cable, does anyone know of any of the dvd recorders out there that allow YPbPr over scart IN?

This has been a big downside for me, not being able to record over component has stopped me buying one. It would be nice to have a fix for it!

Yamaha DRX1 and the Philips ??75 both have component IN!!

andczo,

This is the one I have.

http://www.crestonline.biz/product.php?prodcode=XVSL700

But it is extremely difficult to find. Most of the department stores (harvey norman, bing lee, retravision, etc) don't have this cable in their product list. So they don't order it for you.

The only store that can order this cable from crest is "GOOD GUYS". it takes around a week to get it in.

I don't really remember how much I paid but i was arround $20 -$25.


Hope this helps
Cheers

Thanx SharP . . .

Jaycar carry SCART2xxxxx cables, including the better ones and the crappy ones. I've got "crest" stuff from RetraVision, btw.

I cant remember the brand of scart-to-3rgb (same as component, of course), but I've got a similar scart-to-6rgb from the same brand (the names a pun or wordplay, from memory) which is quite a decent cable.

Do you need the audio connection from the SCART, or can you use a separate (better quality, anyway) connection? If you can use the separate audio, then the scart-to-3rgb is a good choice, IMNSHO.

{BTW: That brand may also do a scart-to-3rgb+2audio, but I cant remember - all I recall in that dept was the cheapo scart-to-5rca stuff}

What's wrong with SCART in? The SCART input should be able to carry component video which is why its a versatile connection. Is it just that you don't want to buy another SCART to SCART cable?

There are a lot of reasons though why buying a DVD recorder is pointless.

BTW, if anyone's still interested, the brand was "ConCord". (Jaycar have plenty of cables of this brand. I've got a few now, they seem to do the job, are reasonably well constructed, and look quite good!)

I'm a jaycar concord convert too. Theyre just fine for home theatre anything more in my mind would be going a bit over the top.

Also consider 'SoundLink'. This is the best of my cheapie YUV interconnects (rrp=$30, bought for $15 at Betta Elec). I also recently used SoundLink 12AWG for surround speaker cables to replace some MonsterCable Powerline (too bulky for surround usage and now back in storage awaiting a possible future audio upgrade).

My TEAC DVB300 says it can output component via scart if I update the firmware.

Im using a full scart to full scart on my Samsung 46" LCD now and the pict is a lot better than AV.

I looked at the $12 scart to component adapter from DSE. It has CyCb etc on it though so I wasnt sure if I used it I would be getting the YbYr out of the converter, as my TV wants the YbYr.

Those $12 scart to component adapters don't change the signal at all. They merely take the R,G,B pin pairs in the SCART out and feed them to RCA sockets. So if the device is capable of component over scart, then this adapter will do the trick, as all the chipsets I have seen that toggle RGB or YUV will send these 3 signals out the same pins.
Don't get yourself in a twist about the labelling.
Component is known as:
YUV, YCrCb, YPrPb and I am sure others. For SD interlaced, for all intents and purposes, these are the same signal. YPrPb is often used to denote progressive component, and has a slightly different colour scale, but generally devices that can accept progressive can accept normal interlaced too.

Regards

only DVD recorder with YUV IN is Phillip's DVD-R75 although it's only for interlaced signal. Still hooked up with SD STB the PQ is really good. I recorded recent Olympic opening and every one wanted to burrow my DVD copy.

cheers

Another reply to this "beyond the grave" topic...

And a BTW one at that!

BTW: I saw a scart-to-6RCA cable today in .....











...the lastest Bunnings catalogue, of all places!
I dont think I'd ever recommend it, though, given the amount of cheap crap they sell at the low end of the handyman/tools market - I'd guess it would be shielded with special "microfine 1nm gladwrap"!

Yeah, but composite/RCA, come on, it isn't like this is the most high quality connection to hook up anyway, it probably won't make such a big difference as say, having a poorly shielded poor quality RGB cable, where crosstalk between the conductors and inconsistant signal characteristic in each conductor will impact colour, ghosting etc.
A single RCA isn't really quite going to be quite as noticable if the cable quality is down a bit.

edit:
Hmm, I just noticed the thread topic... Santa, those cables have nothing to do with component, they are 2 way AV cables, for feeding composite+L+R into the VCR from a STB, and taking the composite+L+R from the VCR for the STB passthrough (or I suppose another use is for feeding a VCR to a television SCART input, and feeding the television AV output, which many SCART TVs have, to the VCR, for recording what is on the TV if you so desire).

No, I think they are for RGB - I mentioned RCA rather than RGB, as they are RCA connectors rather than BNC, thats all. I dont think they do scart-6rca for the (composite+L+R)*2, but you never know!
I might check next time I'm at Bunnings...

Santa's right! (Bet he thought he would never hear me say that ;-)

Be warned that at least two knowledgeable forum members (me, and another who shall remain nameless!) have been sucked in by these Scart -> 6xRCA 'RGB' cables! I was expecting RGB + Composite + L/R analogue audio from a quick glance at the pack. They are actually just an RGB splitter, with two identical trios of RGB out)!!!!!

I am telling you, the SCART to 6RCA cables are generally Li,Ri,AV in, Lo,Ro,AV out. This is because in composite form, a SCART socket will support these signals. The RCAs all have little labels on them. I will take my HT setup apart and take a photo of mine if you want. The cable is readily avail in many stores, hence why I suspect that this is the one that bunnings is selling.
If it is anything else, then it really is a niche cable that wouldn't get much use in most setups, as SCART-RGB is really meant to be kept intact in the SCART due to carrying other info (such as the necessary composite synch, the AV line, the RGB/composite signal, the WSS signal, the audio), and you know how many people that have had such dramas trying to hook up the SCART to anything that isn't SCART (at the RGB level at least).
Regards

From my conversations with guys at Lindy and also Jaycar, the SCART to 6 RCA cables they sell are actually SCART to 3 RCA and then 3 RCA to SCART. It all depends which way you are using them to which three RCA's you actually use.

Hi andczo, this is exactly the point I am trying to make....
I have had a SCART-6RCA hooked up to my Loewe for 4 years now, it feeds the Loewe AV and sound out to my amplifier, and feeds the VCR (or amplifier depending on my connection moods) AV audio and video to the Loewe, all without flicking a switch or changing leads around.

Regards

The ones I'm talking about are the "Scart-to-RGB" with 6 RCAs - not the "Scart-to-AV" with 6 RCAs that you guys are talking about.