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`felix`
QUOTE (joeybloggs @ Jun 29 2005, 12:56 PM)
As for putting Gb's of content up for download

a/ it is technically copyrighted I imagine ~

b/ Who's paying for the bandwidth ?

If your serious about it, pester the actual broadcasters to put it up on their own sites I reckon ~
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Of course you are right about the copyright issues, so i guess then we all are not going to be recording anything from FTA broadcasts right wink.gif And of course there is no market at all for PVR's...
7tasmania
Here's something someone might be able to help me with.
I have a V-STREAM XPERT DTV DVB-T PCI, it comes with bundled DVD software (which, naturally, doesn't work). Nero and other programs won't have a bar of taking the files, so what am I supposed to do? And how can I make these SD caps into .AVI aswell. It's frying my brain.
nexx
Do you guys have to make things overlay complicated? tongue.gif

576i (no re-encoding)

CODE
mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -o movie.mpg input.ts
dvdauthor -v nopanscan -t -f movie.mpg -o c:\dvd\
dvdauthor -T -o c:\dvd\


Ready to burn smile.gif
7tasmania
Oh my goodness. How I wish I knew what all of that meant nexx, sorry to be so daft!
glenr
QUOTE (nexx @ Jul 7 2005, 02:23 PM)
Do you guys have to make things overlay complicated?  tongue.gif

576i (no re-encoding)

CODE
mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -o movie.mpg input.ts
dvdauthor -v nopanscan -t -f movie.mpg -o c:\dvd\
dvdauthor -T -o c:\dvd\


Ready to burn  smile.gif
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This is incredibly helpful stuff. Here's a few more details that I've deduced from it:
DVD Author : download here - http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/
Mencoder : part of mplayer, download here - http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32/

Create a new folder - say c:\tv2dvd
Unzip both downloads into sub-directories (ie c:\tv2dvd\mplayer and c:\tv2dvd\dvdauthor)

Create a batch file (ie c:\tv2dvd\convert.bat) and put the following in it:
CODE
c:\tv2dvd\mplayer\mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -o movie.mpg nine.ts
c:\tv2dvd\dvdauthor\dvdauthor -v nopanscan -t -f movie.mpg -o c:\dvd\
c:\tv2dvd\dvdauthor\dvdauthor -T -o c:\dvd\
pause;


The first line's last 2 parameters are "movie.mpg" which is the output name (and then should match the name on the 2nd line after "-t -f movie.mpg")

The last parameter is "nine.ts" which is the input transport stream (ie the TV recording you've made). As far as I can tell, it needs to be a TS and not say an MPG or DVR-MS file. If you're using say DNTV Live! you can change this in the config (then restart for it to take effect)

Once you've set up the input and output files, the last 2 lines then converts the output file to a DVD-format set of files - ready to be burnt by your favourite burning software (eg Nero etc).

To run all this - simply run the batch file. It'll pause at the end so you can see the output - click any key to close the window.

That should be it with any luck. I've only done this in the last hour or so. Thanks go to nexx for most of this, very easy to do.

I hope to create something that will loop through a directory of recorded shows and do this and a few other tweaks.
nexx
Ah glenr I could have saved you the research by posting my guide:
http://wiki.dvbowners.com/index.php/Person...r_%26_DVDAuthor

I was also working on re-encoding of HDTV sources with mencoder with great success. Like you I havent had much time to test various settings etc but so far I've had little problems.

My batch file looks pretty much the same as yours, but I use %1 for the input file, so I can just drag+drop a file into it.

I'm interested if you've played around with it more and had any problems?
nexus6
my problem is that all the programs i have used end up with the audio and picture badly out of sync. I understand that project x is better for solving the problem, but all i can find on their site is a version that i have to compile. CAn i just download an executable for project x from anyware?

cheers
pppe
I get this sometimes.... so here's what I found...

I found that changing the type of Audio compression helps sometimes, or reduces the sync problem.

I also found this is common when converting the frame rate. Australia is normally 25 fps (PAL), some films are 24 fps, USA (NTSC) digital media is typically 29.9 fps or 30 fps. So if the source material is NTSC but the output dvd project is PAL format I see this problem often.

I also discovered that that sometimes a recording from DVB-T does not have a 'clean' starting point, and this will cause audio out of sync. cleanly chopping of the messy beginning is not easy, but dvd authoring software does allow changing the start and end, it sometime helps and sometimes does not help.

Recently, my Registry got corrupt (Win XP). and I had to re-install windows and all the software... hey presto my digital tv is now working a little better. In the past HD stations would not play, now I can play normal and HD stations. Different video and audio codecs were known to interfere with (cause conflicts) dvd authoring software and TV software brands.

I had tried a few other TV software and uninstall does not remove the codecs (some are hidden) nor the Registry entries. I also had 4 different video processing software, possible more.


In a nutshell: there is no simple explanation or quick solution, it could be caused by any one or more issues.


I think you should consider starting fresh with another Windows installation on another disk or partition (if possible). Install minimal things and see if it works better. Try this if possible, even if it is temporary as a test scenario. You may have to remove apllications you don't use anymore and possibly re-install windows on your main disk and all other software.

pete
pheggie
Project X compiled is from

http://www.oozoon.de/main_en.html

You need to install JRE Java Runtime Environment
and run Project X by double clicking on the .jar file
murrayt
I think it is worth saying that from the release of the Nebula DigiTv Public Beta 3.507 and 3.508 (July 2005), the DigiTV tool DVDConverter has to be ranked as a very good converter tool from a broadcast format recording to a DVD compliant file

It handles both Mpeg and AC3 streams, and avoids the need to demux and remux the streams
`felix`
Ok guy's need some advise.

I have read through Anarchi's guide and followed the steps using a capture i did this morning of the HD 7 Digital Presentation.

I have burnt to DVD, however the reproduction quality is terrible... have a missed something? I was hoping to get a HD or close to reproduction... instead i have something closer to VHS PQ im guessing.

To save some time. The hardware is a DNTV Live! Low Profile (LP) obviously using DNTV for viewing and recording. output file is .dvr-ms at 905mb the converted file is .mpg at 583mb

Any ideas?
`felix`
QUOTE (DavoNogo @ Mar 14 2005, 09:58 PM)
Quickie DVR-MS to DVD guide for High Definition files:

Things you'll need:

NeroVision Express 3
DVD Authoring Program

Quickie guide:
open nerovision express 3
click make movie
right click and select "browse and add to project..."
browse to and add dvr-ms file
edit the file/cut out commercials if need be
click *export*
select dv under export template
select dv type-1
select 48khz audio
click *export*
click NO if it asks to convert to NTSC
close nerovision express
open dvd authoring program
import dv avi file
make dvd as you normally would

notes regarding this form of conversion:

video is converted to 720x576, 25fps, 4:3 (using tmpgenc, you can convert the video to 16:9, by choosing 16:9 as the source aspect ratio.. the resultant file can also be used for tmpgenc dvd author)

audio is converted to 1536kbps

file size will be much much larger than dvr-ms (dv video bitrate is usually 25mbps)

if you have Ulead DVD Workshop 2 SE (comes with pioneer dvd burner) you can set the output video to stretch for 16:9 displays (it has automatic letterboxing for 4:3 displays and it usually greyed out), and it'll give the correct aspect ratio

in some rare cases, the outputted dv avi file from nerovision express was in an ultra wide screen format, which will give you ultra ultra widescreen for the dvd...one way of knowing is when you browse and add the file to the project in NVE, you'll see letterboxing in the preview window... to retain the 16:9 widescreen format of your dvr-ms high definition file, there should be NO letterboxing in your preview screen in NVE..
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Davo,

Whilst you are correct in the process that does normally work - Nero doesn't support all versions/flavours of dvr-ms files. I have saved some files in dvr-ms using DNTV Live! and Nero will not read them - so in this instance Nero is of no use.
rusty94
QUOTE (Strobe @ Sep 20 2004, 12:59 AM)
For a simpler way to do the whole SDTV to DVD process, try VideoReDo. It will fix up any dropped or added frames (light switch problem), and give you an output in MPEG ready for your ULead/Nero/etc DVD burning software!
Simple! No hassles with multiple conversion, in and out of different apps, separate streams... And takes less time!
http://www.drdsystems.com/VideoReDo/index.htm
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I have been doing this, and it works very well, BUT I get an error message from NERO if the file size is over 2MB when trying to burn to DVD. Any easy way to deal with this apart from slicing the show into pieces???
DavoNogo
QUOTE (`felix` @ Aug 5 2005, 01:12 PM)
Davo,

Whilst you are correct in the process that does normally work - Nero doesn't support all versions/flavours of dvr-ms files.  I have saved some files in dvr-ms  using DNTV Live! and Nero will not read them - so in this instance Nero is of no use.
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yikes, I was very young back then and have learnt a lot since then! tongue.gif

What version of NeroVision Express do you have installed? The current latest version is 3.1.0.14. Every .dvr-ms file I've thrown at it, be it SD or HD, no matter which channel I've recorded (trust me, I've thrown a lot of .dvr-ms files at it) all of my recordings can be read by NeroVision Express

In any case, there is a better way of getting from .dvr-ms to DVD.

I'll quickly write it up soon wink.gif
`felix`
QUOTE (DavoNogo @ Aug 11 2005, 01:05 PM)
yikes, I was very young back then and have learnt a lot since then! tongue.gif

What version of NeroVision Express do you have installed? The current latest version is 3.1.0.14. Every .dvr-ms file I've thrown at it, be it SD or HD, no matter which channel I've recorded (trust me, I've thrown a lot of .dvr-ms files at it) all of my recordings can be read by NeroVision Express

In any case, there is a better way of getting from .dvr-ms to DVD.

I'll quickly write it up soon wink.gif
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Hi DavoNogo,

I tried it again just this week and downloaded the latest version (3.1.0.16) from NERO. I had saved the 7 "HD" Presentation last week in .dvr-ms format and attempted to open it with NVE - it loaded fine, but couldn't edit it, nor could i burn it. I have other process' i use for doing the same job, however it would have been nice to do it all in Nero biggrin.gif

Look forward to reading about your better way - am always looking for new and improved ways of doing things...
DavoNogo
Quickie .dvr-ms to DVD guide, Take #2

What you'll need:

Cyberlink PowerEncoder Mpeg-4 AVC Edition Trial http://www.gocyberlink.com/multi/download/...d=43〈=ENU
Microsoft's Graphedit Tool http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&ct=res&c...8PKLc4QHEnd2SDg
Your favourite DVD Authoring Application.

1. Open GraphEdit.

2. Render the .dvr-ms file in GraphEdit.

3. Delete all but the source filter.

4. Press Ctrl + F or click Graph -> Insert Filters.

5. Open up the DirectShow Filters and look for Cyberlink MPEG Muxer.

6. Click the + button next to it and make sure it points to the PowerEncoder one and not the DNTV Live! one. The filename should be pempgmux.ax.

7. Double click on the Cyberlink MPEG Muxer after you have made sure it's the PowerEncoder one.

8. Scroll up the list and look for the Cyberlink Dump Filter.

9. Type in the filename you want to give the new file (eg. 7HD Loop.mpg). It is best to save the file on a seperate, physical hdd, as this will ensure the fastest transfer speed possible.

10. Click and drag from the top output pin from the source filter and join it to the bottom input pin from the Cyberlink MPEG Muxer.

11. Click and drag from the bottom output pin from the source filter and join it to the top input pin from the Cyberlink MPEG Muxer.

12. Click and drag from the output pin from the Cyberlink MPEG Muxer and join it to the input pin from the Cyberlink Dump Filter.

13. Click the green play button and wait for the process to complete. (There is a blue progress bar near the green play button)

14. Close GraphEdit

15. If your DVD player supports it, burn the .mpg file as is onto a DVD-RW and play it back on your standalone DVD Player.

16. If not, then load the .mpg file in your favourite DVD Authoring program.

17. If your DVD Authoring program doesn't have it's own mpeg encoding capabilities, load the .mpg file in an encoding program first, then Author the DVD.

18. The quality of the final DVD will rely on the program that you use to re-encode the video. Re-encoding is necessary for the 7 HD loop because it is 50fps, where the maximum framerate a DVD can support is 25fps. Re-encoding is also necessary if you record the HD channels (except the HD channels that have a bitrate lower than 9.8 mbps, the maximum bitrata a DVD can have), but is mostly not necessary for the SD channels.

This may or may not seem like a better way for you, given that it requires the use of another program, but that's the beauty of it all.. you can use whatever DVD Authoring program that gives you the best quality by using the .mpg file as most, if not all DVD Authoring programs do not support .dvr-ms importing.

Another thing I'd like to add, althought the above steps may seem tedious and/or long, it's actually a very quick process to go through. I'm aware that there is a program called DVRtoMPG that converts .dvr-ms file to .mpg, but I've never had any luck converting HD content, whereas the above process has always worked for me
sprogger
[quote=DavoNogo,Aug 11 2005, 07:55 PM]
Quickie .dvr-ms to DVD guide, Take #2

Newbie request..

HW P4 3.2, 1GB Mem, 160GB HD, ATI Radeon X600, Digital Now Twin USB-T
SW Win XP SP2. DNTV Live!

Have read and reread the forums but am looking for a package that will take the output from DNTV Live (dvr-ms, mpegPS or TS) and make standard DVD playable on home theater.

I have tried
Roxio Easy Media Creator 7.5 - DVD Builder
Issue - Aspect stuck at 4:3 (squashes 16:9) AC3 converts to stereo
Roxio feedback - 7.5 only supports 4:3 please wait for V8

Nero Vision Express 3
Issue - works on MpegPS but sound is out of synch . fails with dvr-ms with transcode issue
Nero feedback - very helpful but tell me that they do not fully support dvr-ms format

Cyberlink DVD Solution - Powerproducer
Issue - fails to read some input files ..doesnt like TS format from DNTV Live and given that parts of the SW are "disabled" in the demo version its hard to work out if it is a problem or intentional
Cyberlink feedback - buy the full version

Now looking at ULead to see what theyve got

Any recommendations on all encompassing packages or am I kidding myself and have to go through the complex steps described in here?
DavoNogo
Finding an all-in-one package for either of the formats will lead you nowhere, as no such package exists (except when you record with MPEG and only record the SD channels, as that doesn't require encoding and can be imported in any DVD authoring program available)

All of the HD channels will require you to re-encode, regardless of the file format you record with, because HD is not compatible with the DVD standard.

If you want HD on your HT, your best bet would be to build a HTPC designed specifically for HD playback, as that would minimise the loss of quality.

If DVD is a must, and funds are low, the easiest way is to record ONLY the SD channels, as they don't require any re-encoding, due to their nature in that they are all compatible with the DVD standard, which will also minimise the loss of quality.
sprogger
QUOTE (DavoNogo @ Aug 31 2005, 05:43 PM)
Finding an all-in-one package for either of the formats will lead you nowhere, as no such package exists (except when you record with MPEG and only record the SD channels, as that doesn't require encoding and can be imported in any DVD authoring program available)

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OK .. got the picture ..

Have purchased VideoReDo Plus which I am now using to convert TS to an MPEG format that DVD will recognise (I think) ..

In the beginning of this forum it suggests using IFOEdit to change aspect 16:9 to 4:3 .. I try this and do get 4:3 .. however it "squashes" the image (as in I still get black bars on either side of the image in 4:3 mode) ..

Is there anyway to change the 16:9 to 4:3 and eliminate the black bars at either side?
DavoNogo
QUOTE (sprogger @ Sep 14 2005, 10:07 AM)
OK .. got the picture ..

Have purchased VideoReDo Plus which I am now using to convert TS to an MPEG format that DVD will recognise (I think) ..

In the beginning of this forum it suggests using IFOEdit to change aspect 16:9 to 4:3 .. I try this and do get 4:3 .. however it "squashes" the image (as in I still get black bars on either side of the image in 4:3 mode) ..

Is there anyway to change the 16:9 to 4:3 and eliminate the black bars at either side?
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Try using a program such as this when authoring the DVD: http://www.ulead.com/vs/runme.htm

I have an older version of the program and it lets me choose the aspect ratio to make it fit either a 4:3 or 16:9 display.

Well, I haven't exactly used the program in a long time, as I tend not to convert anything anymore, but I'm pretty sure that program is capable of doing it.
quadfan
I created a 1 hour SD video file created from my Dvico card. The sound was Dolby digital 2 channel. This file required demuxing so I could get to the sound -this would then enable editing and creating a DVD. I used the recommend program PVAStrumento. I run the program, select the file, aftr 20 seconds the program just closes with no error message. Has anybody got a solution that actually works or do I just have to make sure the audio stram in mpeg not Dolby digital wub.gif
afhhd
Hi!

Thanks for your Digital TV to DVD Guide!

I wanted to follow it but didn't even get to your first step... sad.gif

How can I transfer the recorded files from the receiver to my computer?

Can anybody help me on this???

Would be great!!

Cheers, afhhd
RadioBirdman
Hi all,

I have been looking around in this forum and others for a while and finally got around to registering. Just like to say that the information on this site is fantastic.

Just to let you know that on the weekend I recorded about 60 minutes of Rage for my daughter (interpol music videos). I used my DVICO HD PCI card on a PC with a Sempron 2800 and 512MB RAM.

The size of the file was around 1.2GB, I recorded it in Native Mpeg2 (v3.00.01 Dvico software) in stereo.

I used TMPGENC plus to trim and convert the captured file to ,m2v and .wav files.

I used TMPGENC DVD author to create menus and chapter points for the 6 video clips. Then the program created the Audio.ts and Video.ts folders.

Finally used Nero to burn the DVD.

Works great with no audio sync problems at all.
Anarchi
QUOTE (afhhd @ Sep 26 2005, 03:23 AM)
Hi!

Thanks for your Digital TV to DVD Guide!

I wanted to follow it but didn't even get to your first step... sad.gif

How can I transfer the recorded files from the receiver to my computer?

Can anybody help me on this???

Would be great!!

Cheers, afhhd
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You need a PC with a DigitalTV Tuner card or USB2 tuner card to record to your HDD. Most Digital SetTop boxes dont let you dump the MPEG2 data to a PC.

ps. Your first post (where you quoted the whole guide) has been removed by a moderator.
Cyberpro
You've heard the expression "there's light at the end of the tunnel" ?
Well, I have diligently read through this entire thread and download and installed and tried out most, if not all, of everything recommended by one person or another and guess what?

The light at the end of the tunnel keeps disappearing and showing up in another direction! In fact, I have been down so many tunnels I am beginning to think that I am a woodworm in a very old piece of timber!

My objective is twofold :

To take a HDTV movie and convert it to:

(1) ONE! file to be kept on my harddrive that will enable me to watch the movie again (and again) in HDD format [and just maybe saved on dvd too but in HDD format ]

(2) To burn the movie to a "conventional" dvd so that it can be watched on a standard DVD player.

This is what I did (and the problems I had):

1. Captured the movie and saved the HDTV stream [.ts] files to my hard drive
[Note: I stopped recording during ad breaks to save disk space so I have 12 different .ts files]

2. I installed and used Project X to fix up some transmission anomalies and saved the output as .PVA files [Note: both the original .ts file and the subsequent .pva file played fantastically in the elecard mpeg player with sound/vision perfectly "in sync"]

3. Next, I wanted to cut out the ads because ProjectX only allows you to cut on demuxing, so I ran ProjectX again to demux to .pvs and .pva video/audio files. This proved very time consuming indeed!

4. With the adverts stripped out I then attempted to put the pieces back together again to have one long playable HDTV file for storage. This is where everything started to fall apart!

5. My first attempt was to try to use mplex1 to "remux" the video/audio files. mplex1 refused to do anything and told me that the files were not "standard" format - whatever that means (I couldn't find ANY help about this on the web anywhere so I gave up on this program as a bad joke.) [There might have been something on a german website somewhere aber meine technicsche deutsch is schrechlich!]

6. Just as an experiment I tried demuxing using PVAStrumento instead. Although the movie quality was inferier (PVAStrumento doesn't handle error situations very well I found) it did produce files that mplex1 thought were just peachy and it remuxed them nicely EXCEPT ..... wait for it ... the video/audio was badly out of sync !!!!

So here's my first BIG QUESTION (*1): What switches need to be set (and how?) to make ProjectX produce output files that mplex1 finds acceptable?

7. After the above failures I went back to the drawing board and demuxed again using projectx and then tried to use Mpeg2SchnittE to slice and dice as I required. Suffice it to say that Mpeg2Shittd rather than Schnitted my movie! To quantify that, scnitt ran so slowly and unpredictably that it was practically useless! As an experiment I tried using the files from PVAStrumento and guess what? I couldn't get any sound in my output at all. Nix, Nada, Zilch ! Damn! Again, what is wrong with the output from ProjectX that it screws up in this way all the time? [Actually, schnitt crashed and had to be forcefully unloaded from memory!]

So here's my next BIG QUESTION (*2): What switches need to be set (and how?) to make ProjectX produce output files that mpegschnittE finds acceptable?

And here's another: How to you get schnitt to output Vision and Sound?
And again: How to do get them "in sync?"
And: What can I use to remux seeing as mplex1 was such a spectacular disaster?

Again, as an experiment, I used TMPGenc to create a downsampled version suitable for DVD. The result was out of sync and not particularly memorable - rather like VHS on a good day.

So here I am, running round in all these circles (or was that tunnels!!! and I am getting so confused and frustrated here that I am seriously considering taking up numismatics!)

Answers to some of these questions would be a start cos I have loads more that I will post next. Thanx in advance.
lawyer1990
Can the mplex1.exe program mux an .ac3 file along with an .m2v file into an .mpg file?. I have tried this with a 9HD show that has been edited with Cuttermaran without success following Anarchi's guide. The .m2v and .ac3 file remained intact after being exported by Cuttermaran. Cuttermaran also can remultiplex but it only gave me a 5 second 6mb file. Should I convert the .ac3 file to .mp2? I would like to keep the .ac3 file intact, so if there are any suggestions on any multiplex program or the mplex.exe file, please don't hesitate to post. biggrin.gif
magnu
I have a few questions related to some software solutions mentioned in the guide? These questions may have been answered somewhere on here already, so feel free anyone to point me in the direction.

First up, I have tried (with no success whatsoever) to convert a 4:3 file to pan & scan using IfoEdit. I followed the instructions, but it makes no difference at all. Is there something else I'd need to do?

Secondly, & more importantly, I have some video files in 4:3 HD, which I want to convert to SD (I have my reasons for recording in HD). These recordings play almost perfectly in HD. Sometimes there is a very, very minor hiccup where one or two frames are dropped, but they are virtually unoticable, & I can put up with them.
However, when I run any of the suggested programmes to demux the videos, they remove large chunks from the scenes. i.e. Before, if someone moves from one end of a room to another, there may be 1 or 2 frames missing. After using the recommended softwares, the charactermay suddenly appear at the other side, & we see no movement between.
I have tried PVAStrumento, ProjectX, & VideoReDo Plus, but found the same problem with all. Also, if I use software to convert the file directly to SD (tried with Procoder & Tsunami Mpeg Editor), the video is fine, but the audio is naturally out of sync.

Can anyone suggest a way to solve this issue?
pppe
I recorded some HD dig TV and analyzed it with 'GSPOT'
it told me the recording was not 25 fps but 50 fps.
When this is converted into DVD format, most software will convert to either 25 fps or 30 fps... and this will result in Audio getting out of sync.

I had the same problem with a cartoon I downloaded, sound was fine, but when put onto a DVD it was terribly out of sync... turns out to be the source video is 15 fps. The solution is not so clear.
alexi02
Not sure if anyone has posted something like this before but here's a How To Guide (in video) to convert Digital Tv to XviD the way I do it. Hope it helps someone smile.gif

http://www.uzzisoft.com/howto/


Alex.
DavoNogo
QUOTE (pppe @ Oct 20 2005, 04:04 PM)
I recorded some HD dig TV and analyzed it with 'GSPOT'
it told me the recording was not 25 fps but 50 fps.

The HD channels of 7, ABC and SBS broadcast at 50fps, but if you were getting 50fps with 9 or 10, I'd be surprised.

QUOTE (pppe @ Oct 20 2005, 04:04 PM)
When this is converted into DVD format, most software will convert to either 25 fps or 30 fps... and this will result in Audio getting out of sync.
I had the same problem with a cartoon I downloaded, sound was fine, but when put onto a DVD it was terribly out of sync... turns out to be the source video is 15 fps.  The solution is not so clear.
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Digital TV (and DVDs as well) have their audio at a delay to the video. So you always have to take that into account. The delay could be a constant -200ms (which means the audio is 200ms ahead of the video), but is never variable. If you're getting gradual delay (for example, it's perfect for a while then over time goes badly out of sync and just keeps getting worse) there is something wrong with either the encoder or decoder.
Ceyand
QUOTE (lawyer1990 @ Oct 7 2005, 12:06 AM) *
Can the mplex1.exe program mux an .ac3 file along with an .m2v file into an .mpg file?. I have tried this with a 9HD show that has been edited with Cuttermaran without success following Anarchi's guide. The .m2v and .ac3 file remained intact after being exported by Cuttermaran. Cuttermaran also can remultiplex but it only gave me a 5 second 6mb file. Should I convert the .ac3 file to .mp2? I would like to keep the .ac3 file intact, so if there are any suggestions on any multiplex program or the mplex.exe file, please don't hesitate to post. biggrin.gif



I have finally had some success remuxing HD Video and AC3 audio streams using this version of mplex http://www.kvcd.org/downloads/mplex.exe which I found when browsing through this article http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=4432

I don't believe this version of mplex will work natively with cuttermaran. It does have a self explanatory GUI, and I also found the following syntax worked from the command line:

mplex.exe -v video file.mp2 -a1 audiotrack1.ac3 [-a2 audiotrack2.ac3] -o output_movie.mpg

Note: I had to increase the video buffer settings before it stopped throwing underrun errors at me. I (randomly) chose a value of 384 instead of the default 240 with good results.
GLO
Is there any recently release software or soon to be release software that can be updated on this thread?

thanks
Wacko02
QUOTE (GLO @ Jan 3 2006, 04:25 PM) *
Is there any recently release software or soon to be release software that can be updated on this thread?

thanks

I second that. It really shouldn't be this hard to find decent software (free?) that can do what we need it to.
Rhinoc
QUOTE (Wacko02 @ Feb 18 2006, 08:14 AM) *
I second that. It really shouldn't be this hard to find decent software (free?) that can do what we need it to.



I agree also. I've owned my DTV card for over 12 months now and when I originally purchased and installed it I had all these intentions of recording all sorts of stuff and converting to DVD. Over the 12 months I've used just about every form of recommended software all of which have had floors. I'd have to say VideoReDo was possibly the best I used. I just can't seem to find a consistent system which is quick, simple and reliable. I've just built a new PC so I'm keen to start experimenting again. So with that in mind, is there any new all in one software application that can convert recorded DTV on to DVD without comprimising quality? I can't handle all the demuxing, remuxing etc. etc. I just want an all in one program to do the whole lot. Am I asking too much.

I apoligise if I've missed a previous thread that identifies the perfect application.

Regards Rhino...

Edit: I have no problem paying for a good software package capable of doing the above.
DrWorm
QUOTE (Rhinoc @ Feb 27 2006, 09:29 PM) *
is there any new all in one software application that can convert recorded DTV on to DVD without comprimising quality?

I have no problem paying for a good software package capable of doing the above.


Likewise. I almost bought Adobe Premiere Elements 2, convinced it would be all singing and all dancing in this area. But it's terrible and glad I held off smile.gif

i've spent the last month and a half exploring application in search of the ultimate method to get DVB-T onto DVD. And I thought I was almost there with HDTVtoMPEG2. The original version I found was primarily designed to convert a transport steam into a program stream by extracting the packets and reconstructing it into a standard MPEG2 file.

This excited me because I now had a video that was in DVD format without loosing any quality that occurs with transcoding. But the autor of HDTVtoMPEG2 says it's primarily for editing TS files now, and that VideoReDo should be used for changing the transport stream to program stream.

I'm using HDTVtoMPEG2 for this purpose anyway, but I still don't have a way to get it onto DVD. All applications I try insist on transcoding the video when it doesn't need to. Nero 7 Vision was my biggest hope as it has an option to not transcode a video if it's already in the correct format, but it doesn't seem to work with the MPEG2 files I have produced.

It seems after weeks of searching, every application i've found is simply a hack. It's theoritically possible to get a DVB-T recording onto a DVD without any transcoding or loss of quality. But even the commercial application such as Premiere Elements and Ulead MediaStudio Pro can't do it. They are all incompable of not re-encoding a video that is already in the correct format.
murrayt
DrWorm

Get a hold of VideoRedo Plus. There is a free trial period. You will not be dissapointed.

Then get TMPGenc DVDAuthor 1.6. With these two programs you should be easily able to Edit DVB-t recordings (frame accurate) and then author them to DVD video format. They are quick. No transcoding. Thoroughly recommended
DrWorm
QUOTE (murrayt @ Mar 11 2006, 01:16 PM) *
DrWorm

Get a hold of VideoRedo Plus. There is a free trial period. You will not be dissapointed.

Then get TMPGenc DVDAuthor 1.6. With these two programs you should be easily able to Edit DVB-t recordings (frame accurate) and then author them to DVD video format. They are quick. No transcoding. Thoroughly recommended

Thanks Murrayt. I'll try it out. If you're right it sounds like the perfect combination - exactly what I was after.
runningmanz
Ok I have tried many different methods converting transport files off my DVICO HDTV card and also Topfield PVR. Currently this is the best method I have come up with. I have yet to see any audio sync problems.

1) Open .tp or .ts file and convert to mpeg2 with HDTV2MPEG (I found if I just skip to Video-redo before this I get audio sync problems)

2) Open and edit with VideoRedo. Now save to mpeg2 file using stream fix (to prevent audio sync problems) option under tools.

3) Create DVD using Tmpenc DVD author (ignore bitrate too high warning)

4) Burn to DVD-Video using Nero 6

Works great every time!
Neon Kitten
QUOTE (magnu @ Oct 20 2005, 02:01 AM) *
First up, I have tried (with no success whatsoever) to convert a 4:3 file to pan & scan using IfoEdit. I followed the instructions, but it makes no difference at all. Is there something else I'd need to do?


You need to set your DVD player to 4:3 pan-and-scan mode. Unfortunately this will have unwanted side-effects on other DVDs smile.gif
Perth dtv newbie
Hi all,

Just wanted to share my joy! I had a win converting my SD TV recordings to a DVD disk.

I love the fact that SD TV recordings have the same fundamental parameters as DVD files. It makes the whole conversion process fly! biggrin.gif

I used videoredo plus v2.2.1.445 for the stream fix (dropped frames, etc) and adDetective (advertisement removal) , then Nerovision express to create a menu based DVD.

Couldn't be easier.

Cheers,
pppe
"adDetective" sounds worthwhile...
I've been doing it the hard way ... in NeroVision ... find... split and cut out adverts.
SBS and ABC programs are the best.

I've had some other success, or not...
someone reported getting audio out-of-sync with lips from tv recorded program
well, I found updating TV software and dvd codecs and dvd authoring softwre
it becomes easy for the nero video and audio codecs to become overrridden
after a lot of messing about trying to fix my codecs (TV stopped working in some cases)
I made the audio sync problem worse before making it better. The bad news it is not easy to fix.

Also, the act of cutting out commercils from recorded movie can mess up the DVD recoding process ad lose audio totally in some segments, or get out of sync. Adjusting the cut out segment but few frames (rounding out to whole seconds) sometimes helps.

I Strongly recommend you create your DVD movie on hard disk, play it and jump ahead to make sure the sound is OK and the lips are in sync. Then burn it to a dvd as a separate step.

ALSO found that movies from SBS are broadcast at about 6000 kbps but channel 10 and 7 tend to transmit them at 10,000 or 15,000 kbps. The process of re-coding for a DVD will drag that down to just over 9,000 kbps - nerovision max kbps, and that can also contribute out-of-sync problem. hence my comment of getting commercials cut out neatly.

pete
mwd
Could never get AdDetective to work properly on my setup. blink.gif
Quicker to use the slider.

I always cut on an 'I' frame and never had a lip sync problem so far smile.gif

I only record SD channels though if making DVD not worth the hassle with HD and the huge file sizes.

mwd
50MXE20
Is it possible to fix video / audo synch problems in the vob files or can this only be fixed within the mpegs?
mwd
No you need in simple terms to demux the files then you can in most programs add or subtract a time delay to the audio track then remux the files and hopefully get back in sync.
spanky123
Someone's probably already mentioned this but here's somethin you should consider when putting your DTV recordings onto DVD
- the bitrate should not exceed about 9000kbps in order to be compatible with all dvd players. Many newer players handle bitrates above this standard but some older ones do not. For example, if you record say ch9 SD (i think is 10,000kbps) which is at the dvd resolution of 720 x 576 and convert to dvd, you may still have problems when playing it back on some players as the bitrate is too high.

To get around this you would have to re-encode with something like TMPGEnc (easiest) or MainConcept Encoder which all produce high quality results.
With these, you can edit the mpeg (resolution (if it's something other than 720 x 576 like a HD 1080i source), bitrate, crop the black borders, and a range of other filters)

I think NeroVision automatically makes it dvd-compliant and reduces the bitrate, however, it's not the best of encoders and the quality is nowhere near as good as that of TMPGenc (preferably version 3.0) or MainConcept

QUOTE (Lyle @ Jun 28 2006, 01:36 PM) *
Is it possible to fix video / audo synch problems in the vob files or can this only be fixed within the mpegs?


VideoRedo accepts vob files and can adjust audio sync. The output file is always a '.mpeg' (mpeg-2) though.

QUOTE (pppe @ Apr 30 2006, 01:43 PM) *
I've been doing it the hard way ... in NeroVision ... find... split and cut out adverts.


Use VideoRedo. It's perfect 99.9% of the time. Always (99.9% of the time) keeps audio and video in perfect sync. For the .1% that it's out of sync, just run it through VideoRedo again and adjust the audio delay and that's it.

QUOTE (pppe @ Apr 30 2006, 01:43 PM) *
SBS and ABC programs are the best.


hahah. yeah true. No adds (although SBS has thrown a couple in for some shows)
poisson
Hi Anarchi,

Thanx for your extensive informative and helpful Digital TV to DVD conversion guide!!

I've a question . . I've recorded an MPEG2 Program Stream using my PC TV tuner card which is about 90 minutes long. I mis-programmed and need to just chop off the last 30 minutes, theoretically a simple singular cut. Do any of the software you've suggested allow you to simply load, chop then "save-as" . . . . job completed, just like that or are they all a case of importing the file, do the edit then sit around waiting for the rather lengthy re-render process kinda thang??

Thanx again,

poisson.
murrayt
poisson

Yes as suggested above, a product like VideoReDo does just that and very effectively.

There is a free trial period available so downloading it and requesting a trial key should let you evaluate it and be comfortable with its features and functions.
poisson
QUOTE (murrayt @ Aug 24 2006, 07:11 PM) *
. . . . a product like VideoReDo does just that and very effectively. . . . .

OK. Thanx murrayt!
moutzokers
sadly VideoReDo doesnt work on Vista sad.gif

i already miss XP lol
HyperReality
QUOTE (moutzokers @ Sep 27 2006, 10:23 PM) *
sadly VideoReDo doesnt work on Vista sad.gif

I'm sure it will by the time Vista is finally released.
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