QUOTE (wilbs01 @ Jul 29 2008, 11:07 PM)

thanks guys
ended up buying a sony DCR-DVD610E $418, testing it on my plasma picture seems pretty good via ps3.
Howdy, I am sure you will be happy with the Sony 610, if I saw this thread sooner I would have told you about it.
I've had one for a few months now, has great features, great picture and the mic picks up sound really well.
I recommend you get a genuine Sony spare battery overseas, they are way overpriced here. I am getting one from Amazon.com, the np-fh70 which sells from around $55US. The largest battery NP-FH100 has a long charge, but from research some people find it a bit bulky/weighty for the camcorder. For most people the combination of the np-fh50 that comes with camcorder and the np-fh70 is more than enough. If you want a additonal charger, which you can also use in the car, Dealsdirect.com.au have one for around $15.
cheers, Rebel.