Ph1l
Oct 19 2008, 05:54 PM
I was wondering if anyone has had any trouble getting the 5.1 signal to their receivers? I'm currently going from the TV to the receiver and there's no prob, but when I go from the HVBT-2000 to the receiver I don't get the 5.1 registering.
jenx
Oct 19 2008, 07:45 PM
QUOTE (Ph1l @ Oct 19 2008, 06:54 PM)

I was wondering if anyone has had any trouble getting the 5.1 signal to their receivers? I'm currently going from the TV to the receiver and there's no prob, but when I go from the HVBT-2000 to the receiver I don't get the 5.1 registering.
Not sure about your region - but here in Perth, like you I thought maybe the unit had a problem - but it turns out most of the "awesome surround audio HD programming" is actually just broadcast in stereo

. Once I figured that out, it was easy enough to use the channel guides to find something actually broadcast in 5.1 and the olin happily sent the ac3 to my receiver.
Check the content first

*grumble*
Gustav2020
Oct 20 2008, 01:11 PM
QUOTE (Basil @ Oct 19 2008, 08:18 AM)

Hi
Jen,last Week i was in their place during the Channel 10(SC10 up here) Morning News, studio shots of the newsreader were fine but when they cut to vision,eg the Melb. girl missing in Croatia, the RHS(AYL) of the screen had a even black band down the side ie vision was only filling the first 90% of the screen from left to right. All this is in centre cut,"Zoom' mode and the Panny. TV is a 100z 80cm 4:3. No big deal the box is OK for the money but i thought i would mention it.
Even with new fw (v3.6), 4:3 zoom is still vertically stretched a lot and the 4:3 letterbox is horizontally stretched slightly. AC3 sound will be enabled with new fw 3.6 if you change the sound setting from pcm to ac3. Most of the time, my receiver detects the dd signal with only two channels (so it automatically switch to pl-II or something similar), only got real DD5.1 when some of the movies aired. SBS has only stereo sounds. (?)
Ph1l
Oct 20 2008, 05:06 PM
QUOTE (jenx @ Oct 19 2008, 07:45 PM)

Not sure about your region - but here in Perth, like you I thought maybe the unit had a problem - but it turns out most of the "awesome surround audio HD programming" is actually just broadcast in stereo

. Once I figured that out, it was easy enough to use the channel guides to find something actually broadcast in 5.1 and the olin happily sent the ac3 to my receiver.
Check the content first

*grumble*
I switched the cable while Fantastic 4 was on.
XLR8
Oct 21 2008, 05:31 PM
QUOTE (Gustav2020 @ Oct 20 2008, 02:11 PM)

Even with new fw (v3.6), 4:3 zoom is still vertically stretched a lot and the 4:3 letterbox is horizontally stretched slightly.
Yes you are right in 4:3 zoom mode I compared today show to analog tv broadcast and the right hand side of the logo has slightly more displacement on the Olin fw compared to analog, whilst letterbox is OK to me but can't really compare it to anything at home eg widescreen tv not available.
Aussieguy
Oct 21 2008, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (Prof-Rabbit @ Sep 11 2008, 05:30 PM)

Hi everybody,
Can't add topics for some reason but my question belongs here anyway
We have just bought a 2000B to watch the Paralympics on ABC2, new UHF antenna
cable etc, picture plus sound but no colour? rang support they suggested getting a
replacement, off to Target no problem. Install new unit, same problem, updated firmware,
still the same problem.
As a retired technician (ok, I'm a bit analog

) setup:
Teac 68cm stereo CRT, connected via SCART output (no other choices on this TV)
sound is fine, picture is good, signal quality 90%+ but Arggg

no colour!
TV does not have NTSC switching, what am I missing?
Regards
I am guessing you have already fixed this problem or have already tried this but check to see if your video settings are set to pal as if the tv is set to pal and the set top box is sending a NTSC signal you will get a black and white image
g12345567
Oct 22 2008, 05:46 PM
Thought I would let everybody know. Seen these OLIN HD set top boxes for sale at KMART for $89.95. My local store had plenty in stock.
petef
Oct 22 2008, 05:59 PM
They are a current catalogue item $40 off, finishes today.
Peter.
pinmart
Oct 30 2008, 05:56 PM
Are there any plans to ever fix the appalling sound quality on the analogue audio outs in a new firmware? It currently seems to high-pass everything from about 300hz down.
XLR8
Oct 31 2008, 05:05 PM
pinmart you could always goto olin website and give them this feedback in their contact us section.
I wish they had a user equaliser which you can set your way and it's permanent for SD and HD. Here's hoping

www.olintyle.com
AlanT
Oct 31 2008, 07:14 PM
QUOTE (XLR8 @ Oct 31 2008, 06:05 PM)

pinmart you could always goto olin website and give them this feedback in their contact us section.
I wish they had a user equaliser which you can set your way and it's permanent for SD and HD. Here's hoping

www.olintyle.com
My HVBT-2000B now is totally not working anymore.
Recently it only got SBS, but other channels were not working. Today I turned on the STB and found no channel list items. I tried to do a auto-searching, it did not find any channels at all.
And may be the reason of I chose factory settings?
The date I found the STB shows is 1 Jan 1970, I found no way to set the date back to 31 Oct 2008. I am quite disappointed with this STB. I cannot watch TV anymore.
jenx
Nov 2 2008, 10:44 AM
QUOTE (AlanT @ Oct 31 2008, 08:14 PM)

My HVBT-2000B now is totally not working anymore.
Recently it only got SBS, but other channels were not working. Today I turned on the STB and found no channel list items. I tried to do a auto-searching, it did not find any channels at all.
And may be the reason of I chose factory settings?
The date I found the STB shows is 1 Jan 1970, I found no way to set the date back to 31 Oct 2008. I am quite disappointed with this STB. I cannot watch TV anymore.
the time is derived from the tv stream - but if you can't receive any channels then you have a lot worse problems than setting the clock! I'd try doing a factory reset, save the settings then unplug the unit for an hr or so. Turn it on and re-scan for stations. Also make sure the antenna is still working (plug a tv into the antenna lead the stb was attached to and be sure you can get a picture)
If still no picture - she's dead jim - go for the warranty
good luck
AlanT
Nov 4 2008, 12:05 PM
QUOTE (jenx @ Nov 2 2008, 11:44 AM)

the time is derived from the tv stream - but if you can't receive any channels then you have a lot worse problems than setting the clock! I'd try doing a factory reset, save the settings then unplug the unit for an hr or so. Turn it on and re-scan for stations. Also make sure the antenna is still working (plug a tv into the antenna lead the stb was attached to and be sure you can get a picture)
If still no picture - she's dead jim - go for the warranty
good luck
I did a re-scan and now there are some channels searched, but just SBS and radios, roughly only 5 channels. The clock resume correct. So I cannot claim warranty.
BTW, any link and information how do I upgrade the firmware?
My firmware version is 20080227.
petef
Nov 4 2008, 01:18 PM
Are you sure your problems are not just because of a poor signal into your STB?
AlanT
Nov 4 2008, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (petef @ Nov 4 2008, 02:18 PM)

Are you sure your problems are not just because of a poor signal into your STB?
Yes, this was what I thought about the bad signal of Channel 7 and Channel 9.
I need to ask my neighbour if they got the same problem. What if they have no problem in watching 7 and 9?
petef
Nov 4 2008, 04:49 PM
take your box with you
troyboy18
Nov 4 2008, 08:19 PM
i got the hvbt version and the remote sucks. u press a button and it does not do what u say it to do. its stupid
jenx
Nov 4 2008, 11:31 PM
QUOTE (AlanT @ Nov 4 2008, 02:58 PM)

Yes, this was what I thought about the bad signal of Channel 7 and Channel 9.
I need to ask my neighbour if they got the same problem. What if they have no problem in watching 7 and 9?
did you try plugging the tv into the antenna connection the stb was using? if so - how was the picture?
Testing your STB at someone else's place where you know they get a decent picture is a good idea for checking
the box isnt dead, but still leaves you with a lot of other possibilities for not working at your home.
(bad connection to aerial, bad antenna lead, interference from other electrical gear, etc)
happy hunting
jen
jenx
Nov 4 2008, 11:36 PM
QUOTE (troyboy18 @ Nov 4 2008, 08:19 PM)

i got the hvbt version and the remote sucks. u press a button and it does not do what u say it to do. its stupid
Could you try being less specific? lol
more info on stb model, button and what it did do vs what you were expecting?
that sort of stuff...
at the moment I'm finding the button stuff in the epg really confusing - page down in description, next day, change channel, etc
all seems to work but its a terrible design
jen
troyboy18
Nov 5 2008, 08:25 AM
i press the button to turn the sound up goes to another channel. press menu its goes to a different channel. sometimes with menu button it shuts down the box.
jenx
Nov 5 2008, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (troyboy18 @ Nov 5 2008, 09:25 AM)

i press the button to turn the sound up goes to another channel. press menu its goes to a different channel. sometimes with menu button it shuts down the box.
I haven't seen those...
volume up is the button right of ok yes?(little + sign and a wedge symbol)
(IMHO the wedge is backwards for vol + but hey maybe its a cultural thing)
channel up down are top and bottom of the ok (again to nickpick, channel "up" actually moves you down the list of channels as displayed in the listing/ok menu)
Never had the box power off unexpectedly *touch wood*
pinmart
Nov 5 2008, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (XLR8 @ Oct 31 2008, 06:05 PM)

I wish they had a user equaliser which you can set your way and it's permanent for SD and HD. Here's hoping

What is the point of equalisation? It cuts everything out below about 300hz completely. Using EQ after that won't be able to fix it.
Yifu Miao
Nov 7 2008, 01:03 PM
QUOTE (pinmart @ Nov 5 2008, 08:18 PM)

What is the point of equalisation? It cuts everything out below about 300hz completely. Using EQ after that won't be able to fix it.
To pinmart
Could you please list how did you find this problem and which device (amplifier) you use?
To all
New Firmware v3.8 is available now and will be uploaded soon.
V3.8 fixes the following
1. It fixes the problem of black screen when using TXT button.
2. Add warning message when customer change resolution while using CVBS.
3. It changes the order of TXT sub-menu and title sub-menu.
petef
Nov 7 2008, 02:01 PM
Welcome back Yifu, it's good to see someone from westwell back here again. I guess they couldn't go on without you.
Peter.
pinmart
Nov 7 2008, 02:03 PM
QUOTE (Yifu Miao @ Nov 7 2008, 02:03 PM)

To pinmart
Could you please list how did you find this problem and which device (amplifier) you use?
I've tried it with several different amplifiers and they all have this problem. The digital connection is fine. Perhaps it's just my STB that has this defect? Although I've seen other people complaining about the poor bass response.
I can record and post a sample if you want to hear it.
Yifu Miao
Nov 7 2008, 02:15 PM
QUOTE (petef @ Nov 7 2008, 03:01 PM)

Welcome back Yifu, it's good to see someone from westwell back here again. I guess they couldn't go on without you.
Peter.
It really had been very hard to go on without him. but the truth is he had gone.
I am just using his ID ...
Yifu Miao
Nov 7 2008, 02:17 PM
QUOTE (pinmart @ Nov 7 2008, 03:03 PM)

I've tried it with several different amplifiers and they all have this problem. The digital connection is fine. Perhaps it's just my STB that has this defect? Although I've seen other people complaining about the poor bass response.
I can record and post a sample if you want to hear it.
So no Bass only if through the Audio (L/R) sockets? Yes, please send me a sample.
pinmart
Nov 7 2008, 03:10 PM
QUOTE (Yifu Miao @ Nov 7 2008, 03:17 PM)

So no Bass only if through the Audio (L/R) sockets? Yes, please send me a sample.
http://www.turboupload.com/files/get/jEqAf...io-examples.rarHi.
I've just recorded a short sample from both the analogue LR outputs and the digital coaxial into an M-Audio Fast Track Pro connected to a laptop. The same lack of bass on the analogue LR outputs is found in all circumstances (HD or SD channels, PCM or AC3 output.)
OLIN DVBT-2000 ANALOGUE LR.wav
You can hear the complete lack of bass from analogue outputs.
OLIN DVBT-2000 DIGITAL.wav
The bass as it's supposed to be in a digital recording from the coaxial output.
Thanks.
XLR8
Nov 7 2008, 09:38 PM
Wow, Yifu Miao is back well not technically but via another westwall support person great to hear.
and with his new arrival a new fw... how great is that....

Yeah if the bass can be improved on the analogue output that would be awesome...
I would also like 4:3 ratio be looked at along with bass and then this unit is stable...

And Pinmart exactly what I hear through my analogue outputs onto speakers. Infact compared to my DVD player you can easily here the lower frequency registers aren't there on the olin-Halion so would be nice now with evidence from you for them to have a look at it.
Yifu Miao
Nov 10 2008, 08:51 AM
QUOTE (pinmart @ Nov 7 2008, 04:10 PM)

http://www.turboupload.com/files/get/jEqAf...io-examples.rarHi.
I've just recorded a short sample from both the analogue LR outputs and the digital coaxial into an M-Audio Fast Track Pro connected to a laptop. The same lack of bass on the analogue LR outputs is found in all circumstances (HD or SD channels, PCM or AC3 output.)
OLIN DVBT-2000 ANALOGUE LR.wav
You can hear the complete lack of bass from analogue outputs.
OLIN DVBT-2000 DIGITAL.wav
The bass as it's supposed to be in a digital recording from the coaxial output.
Thanks.
Yes, I can tell the big difference in the low frequency. I suppose it is not a common issue for all our boxes. It might be the low pass cap for analog output. Would you like to send it back to us so that we can do some research. Email me at xiao.lu@westwell.com.au
Gustav2020
Nov 12 2008, 09:40 AM
QUOTE (XLR8 @ Nov 7 2008, 07:38 PM)

Yeah if the bass can be improved on the analogue output that would be awesome...
I would also like 4:3 ratio be looked at along with bass and then this unit is stable...
Yes, I would like to see improvement/correction to the 4:3 ratio issues soon.
paul2001
Nov 12 2008, 10:45 AM
QUOTE (Yifu Miao @ Nov 7 2008, 01:03 PM)

V3.8 fixes the following
2. Add warning message when customer change resolution while using CVBS.
Updated to V3.8 last night, didn't show any warning message when I change resolution, just like earlier version. Using CVBS.
Yifu Miao
Nov 12 2008, 12:48 PM
QUOTE (paul2001 @ Nov 12 2008, 11:45 AM)

Updated to V3.8 last night, didn't show any warning message when I change resolution, just like earlier version. Using CVBS.
there is a message says "CVBS & S-Video output support 576i/576p only" when you try to change resolution in Setup->System setting->Screen setting
Ph1l
Nov 12 2008, 06:54 PM
Hi Yifu.
When I connect from TV to receiver via an optical cable I get 5.1 sound but when I go from the Olin to the receiver via an optical cable from the same programme I'm watching I don't get it.
pinmart
Nov 12 2008, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (Yifu Miao @ Nov 10 2008, 09:51 AM)

Yes, I can tell the big difference in the low frequency. I suppose it is not a common issue for all our boxes. It might be the low pass cap for analog output. Would you like to send it back to us so that we can do some research. Email me at xiao.lu@westwell.com.au
Sorry but I can't do that. How am I meant to watch TV while you have it?
So this problem only effects my unit? Does everyone else have decent bass output from the analogue outs?
jenx
Nov 12 2008, 11:33 PM
QUOTE (pinmart @ Nov 12 2008, 07:57 PM)

Sorry but I can't do that. How am I meant to watch TV while you have it?
So this problem only effects my unit? Does everyone else have decent bass output from the analogue outs?
NO - after you comments I've compared analog vs digital sound and there is no comparison
the analog has a lot less bass on my setup as well...
If only the stations broadcast some test signal we could use as a standard.
jen
On the other hand I don't mind if westwell want to pull my unit back for tests
Yifu Miao
Nov 13 2008, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (Ph1l @ Nov 12 2008, 07:54 PM)

Hi Yifu.
When I connect from TV to receiver via an optical cable I get 5.1 sound but when I go from the Olin to the receiver via an optical cable from the same programme I'm watching I don't get it.
Please upgrade your firmware to latest version and it should fix this problem.
riffa
Nov 13 2008, 04:29 PM
Just upgraded to the latest firmware V3.8 from V3.6.
Now the remote control program up (PR+) and program down (PR-) buttons work in reverse when channel surfing. eg. when i push to change up from channel 7 to channel nine i have to press the down (PR-) button.
If i use the OK/List menu to change the channel PR+ will go up the list and PR- goes down the list.
I am pretty sure it wasnt like this before upgrading the firmware. Anyone else had the same problem??
jenx
Nov 14 2008, 08:26 AM
I haven't done the update yet but what you describe sounds like its working in a "logical" fashion
eg, pr+ moves you up the list, pr- takes you down the list all the time.
The problem may be that you have (or the default is) the notionally higher numbered channels are "down" the list
You can sort the channels into whatever order you want -
I have the HD channels in order, then the SD again in order of the ones I most commonly watch.
I think the default is just the channels in the order they are found while scanning through the various frequencies.
(whatever it was I didn't like it and changed it quickly lol)
but yes - sounds like they changed the behaviour in the patch
Did they change the EPG channel behaviour? (3.6 always returned to the channel you started from when you exit the EPG - I would think "find a progam you like then ok to watch that or exit to return to the channel you started from" would be a better way). Looks like I better pull my stb out of the rack for updating again!
jen
jenx
Nov 14 2008, 08:28 AM
stupid broken poxy server dup entry
riffa
Nov 14 2008, 10:45 AM
QUOTE (jenx @ Nov 14 2008, 09:26 AM)

I haven't done the update yet but what you describe sounds like its working in a "logical" fashion
eg, pr+ moves you up the list, pr- takes you down the list all the time.
The problem may be that you have (or the default is) the notionally higher numbered channels are "down" the list
jen
I agree the list view is logical, but when just changing channels normally without the list view the buttons are back to front. Pressing the PR+ button actually changes channel down.
I have not tried EPG yet but will give it a go this afternoon.
Just tried the EPG and it still returns to the original station you were on.
paul2001
Nov 16 2008, 06:45 AM
Does anyone know how to setup the timer?
I set timer 1, channel: 2, timer type: everyday, Event type: Turn on, Enable: Yes, Data: 01/01, Time: 06:00,
and timer 2, channel: 2, timer type: everyday, Event type:Turn off, Enable: Yes, Date: 01/01, Time: 23:59.
None of these 2 timers works, no auto turn off and no auto turn on.
Using firmware Ver 3.8 (20081008).
Ph1l
Nov 17 2008, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (Yifu Miao @ Nov 13 2008, 11:08 AM)

Please upgrade your firmware to latest version and it should fix this problem.
Thanks Yifu for the info. I'm don't know the procedure. Can it be done through the STB while connected to the Tv?
Ph1l
Nov 17 2008, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (paul2001 @ Nov 16 2008, 06:45 AM)

Does anyone know how to setup the timer?
I set timer 1, channel: 2, timer type: everyday, Event type: Turn on, Enable: Yes, Data: 01/01, Time: 06:00,
and timer 2, channel: 2, timer type: everyday, Event type:Turn off, Enable: Yes, Date: 01/01, Time: 23:59.
None of these 2 timers works, no auto turn off and no auto turn on.
Using firmware Ver 3.8 (20081008).
Are you sure you have the dates correct? Todays should look like: 11/17.
paul2001
Nov 17 2008, 09:34 PM
I don't think it need to set the date, as the timer is for everyday.
jenx
Nov 18 2008, 08:54 AM
QUOTE (Ph1l @ Nov 17 2008, 05:49 PM)

Thanks Yifu for the info. I'm don't know the procedure. Can it be done through the STB while connected to the Tv?
the update is via a serial cable - stb to your computer. Full instructions on the website and there is a thread in here on it as well - not the easiest but important to do - the original firmware was pretty limited.
But because the company seems pretty responsive I've gone ahead and recommended the boxes to friends - just get them to drop past and I do the update for them.
jen
jenx
Nov 18 2008, 08:58 AM
QUOTE (paul2001 @ Nov 16 2008, 06:45 AM)

Does anyone know how to setup the timer?
I set timer 1, channel: 2, timer type: everyday, Event type: Turn on, Enable: Yes, Data: 01/01, Time: 06:00,
and timer 2, channel: 2, timer type: everyday, Event type:Turn off, Enable: Yes, Date: 01/01, Time: 23:59.
None of these 2 timers works, no auto turn off and no auto turn on.
Using firmware Ver 3.8 (20081008).
I experimented with reminders and didn't get anything happening either- good idea, nice feature but either its not quite there or needs some more explaining!
Ph1l
Nov 18 2008, 06:12 PM
QUOTE (paul2001 @ Nov 17 2008, 09:34 PM)

I don't think it need to set the date, as the timer is for everyday.
I found that all 'everyday' does is just keep the channel and 'on', 'off' info. The date needs to be set everytime you need to record something.
Ph1l
Nov 18 2008, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (jenx @ Nov 18 2008, 08:54 AM)

the update is via a serial cable - stb to your computer. Full instructions on the website and there is a thread in here on it as well - not the easiest but important to do - the original firmware was pretty limited.
But because the company seems pretty responsive I've gone ahead and recommended the boxes to friends - just get them to drop past and I do the update for them.
jen
There appears to be two options and I'm not sure which download I should use or if I need both.
"Olin HVBT-2000/2000B HD Set-top Box Firmware + Update Tool" or the
"Olin HVBT-2000 HD Set-top Box Firmware + Update Tool"
I should have mentioned I have the 2000
Ph1l
Nov 22 2008, 05:11 PM
I uploaded the 2000/2000B firmware and update file. It hasn't made any difference.
The info page now reads:
Product: DVB-T HD STB
Software Version: X1.00-200804 16
Hardware Version: 001
Loader Version: unidentifiable.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.