Did Anybody happen to see that story on Today Tonight last night about buying Cheap Plasma's and LCD's I felt pity for that poor DLP Rear Pro they dumped at the tip. I bet there is another reason why it blows its lamps so regular + it seems to destroy its lamp housing too. My friend has one and it looks Identical like the one they dumped at the tip and I can tell you this that my mates was popping globes too early and beside finding a kilo of dust in it the lamp cooling fan was just about to expire.
Now I have an LG LCoS Rear Pro 71 Inch Display and I have purchased a service manual for it and a lot of emphasis is put on the 3 cooling fans and replacement of the dust duct + If you want the lamp to have a long life, use the set correctly and NEVER shut the TV down from the front main switch as the correct cycle is you first shut it down via the hand control which shut the tv down but allows the 3 fans to do their job for the next 2 minutes and if needed they will restart again and perform a cycle. Now if you shut the Display at the main switch or the mains ( Like that ad on Channel 7 tells you to do to save the planet and don't leave your set on Standby) you rob it from doing its correct cycle thus you are killing the globe and possibly damaging the lamp housing because of continual excessive heat. We all know or I hope we do that your computer CPU + fan needs attention depending on how much use it gets to get rid of the dust blocking the fan and the heat sink and I can tell you this that its you own any display that have a fan in it it will require maintenance at least once a year or just before summer. In the last two weeks I have cleaned out two Rear pros one a DLP and another was the same as mine both were rotten and clogged with dust.

On another note another friend of mine had trouble with a good name plasma which stuffed itself twice in 6 months from new but I got suspicious as this house had a habit of blowing things up and I decide to check his Voltage at the mains and it hung around the 260V mark around load time just after dinner, I never got to check it at around 10PM at night when the load is off, heaven forbid it would have gone higher, see he has a 11KV/415V tranny outside his front that feeds the street in the bush and the neighbours down the bottom with plenty of air conditioners were complaining about a lower voltage because the street mains were too small so It was easy for the power supply company to set the tap up on the tranny to boost it just a little but with devastating consequences to anyone that lived close to the transformer. So for Today Tonight and others next time you have a problem please look outside the square because something or some one else might be responsible for the problem.
By the way, I thank the Big Warehouse in Canberra for getting the service manual.

paragraphs dude

At least two other threads running on this already.

well said, and thanx Blackman.

Note too folks that a lot of equipment we used in Australia is really meant for 220V (whether it says that on back panel or not), so running on 240v doesn't help. Recently modded power supply in my under rated Dreambox (sat receiver) and all is now well with it.

So when you look at it if its rated at 220V and you shove 260V in it you wonder why it dies, As for those magic Heeeeeeeeeee Dreambox's My 7000's were modded years ago when I had hard drives in both of them and are still happy today, As for all Satellite receiver 99% are rated at 220V and some cook themselves for some reason my Nokias although rated at 220V never over heated only if you modded the cam in them..
Sorry guys of Topic.

yeh $28, just ordered it :-)

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Shouldn't it be "Today Tonight, don't buy into cheap TV" or I would say "Tabloid Turkeys, I don't buy into there bullshit!"

Eh, I'll read this thread later, maybe it's not half bad a story.

EDIT: OK read the thread. Those stories they do on electronics is usually like American beer, watered down shite.

I agree TT just a waste of space!

reminds me of my favourite Canadian joke: "Why is American beer like sex in a canoe? A: They are both f#####ing close to water!"

Was it Today Tonight that was on the Kogan bandwagon previously or one of the other garbage current affairs shows?

Yep

That advertorial was on Today Tonight.

You can watch it on his website if you have the stomach for it

Ols

Don't bother with today tonight... that was utter rubbish!

So let me get this straight. TT had a segment saying not to buy cheap TVs, when not long ago they had a segment involving Kogan TVs.........OK then.

Also don't buy plasma tv's they blow up in standby mode !

Today tonight cant be wrong!

MC,

Any device "meant for 220V" is obviously designed to take standard voltage fluctuations (ie 220-240). Devices running "at 240" isn't going to make a difference whatsoever and certainly isn't going to contribute to an early death.

Also just as Australia has officially transitioned from 240 to 230V (most people don't even know this), many 220V nations are transitioning to (or have transitioned to) EU standard 230V.

Hi SteveBuscemi,

Do you have any reference links to support this?

Regards,
Ian.

I don't wish to be rude but this is utter nonsense.

Couldn't agree more! Absolute and utter shite! ACA is just as bad - maybe even worse.

If you check your voltage at different points around the house (GPOs),you will find that it can get upto 250V.

Even though its a difference of 30V,it shouldnt bother your Rectifier in you TV.

Those programs are all one-sided.They hate casinos,sex you name it.They always show people in finacial trouble I mean they're all happy to get a loan.If you can't afford it don't get one!!

lets see if I've got this straight

first it was, don't a cheap plasma... then, beware your plasma may explode and burn your house down, and finally.... Plasma & LCD TV's may be banned within 12months.

can't wait for the next informative installment

This is the same program that ran a program on Kogan LCD TV's as being one of the best available.

Don't believe anything you see on todayt tonight, a lot of stories are infomercials

Not impressed with Kogan. I purchased a 19" LCD/PC in October 2006 and gave it as a present on Christmas day 2006. In November 2007, just outside of the 12 month warranty the screen developed vertical pink lines. Contacted Kogan who said:
bad luck can't help as outside warranty period and
cannot supply the parts required as the set is old technology.
I cannot recommend Kogan or their after sales service. Would not buy another one!!!!

Well i wouldn't call my LCD TV cheap,but the brand ain't well known.
Cost me $1000 only about a $100 cheaper then the Samsung.
I was going to get Samsung but the warranty for the one i bought cant be beat
Hisense looks great all my friends have them cause of warranty.
No problems for me and my friends and they have had them for about a year.
My brother has one.

Aussie brand up and coming,
I got it at JB hifi parramatta westfields NSW
and the lies they told me to get me to buy it WoW
first the USB port is for viewing pictures,lie!
2 week satisfaction guarantee,if i see cheaper they will give me the differnce back.Lie
cause i saw it 5 days later at same store for 30bucks off and when i told them...
he said he lied,but i left that store with money $30bucks back...boy did i give him crap!
and he told me some bullcrap''i tell you!''
Also said he had 2 in stock,then when i paid for it he said he just sold them.Bullsh#t!
Then he said they would have it in the morning.lie!
went to get refund at end of day and it came in Thank god!

It's Hisense 32inch with built in HD tuner 720p/1080i
3 hdmi ports,2 component ports,2 composite ports,1 VGA,SV 2 ports,PC sound imput,Fiber Optic 5.1 imput
really cool tv,looks great,plays great
On xbox 360 looks fantastic!movies everything,PC looks super clear.did not exspect that?

Heres warranty info
*3 year in-home replacement Warranty
*Priority replacement within 1 business day
*They Deliever,replace unpack and set-up
*24 hour,7 day customer support hotline
they bring a new one to your door,and fix your tv,if they cant fix it they will replace on the spot!

I rang to double check,very fast service'nice operator.guaranteed all was correct.
I payed extra $70 for extra extended 2 years,so all up 5years
3 years Hisense other 2 years with Lumly.
Samsung warranty was no where near as good as Hisense!
Ive bought big name brands to have them blow really fast.
JVC tv,they came and got it.ended up taking 6months to fix!
Sony flate screen tv blew after a year,friend had same one.same crap happened to him
So i dont matter what brand you buy it's luck of the draw!!!!
I feel happy with the tv and warranty i got,

Gave me piece of mind!
Good luck to all!

I don't think they're an Aussie brand as such. There is an Aussie company but they're selling products from the main company I think.

http://www.hisense.com.au/about/history

samsung also has a three year factory warranty. atleast with harvey norman

Wouldn't buy anything from Hardly Normal, even if they were selling $30,000 TVs and stuff for $0.30. Although, if they were decent...

It is a Samsung warranty, so it doesn't matter where you buy it.

TT alway hype stuff up just for the sake of it

This going to be on TT again tonight.

Just in NSW, Douglas/Dig (Sorry, I couldn't help myself!), or all over the country? We don't get TT ads down here in Mt.G.

i do Australian standard 3000:2000 the wiring rules and regulations of australia and new zeland, it states in there that the nomial voltage is 230V

... with an acceptable range of 216 to 254 if I recall correctly.

If I remember what I learnt at Tafe, I think the acceptable range was +/- 10% from 240V, I.e. 216V to 264V.


Actually, come to think of, maybe you just hit a 5 instead of a 6.

Australian nominal voltage was 240v +/- 6%, it is now 230v +10% -6%. So in reality little has changed but none the less nominal voltage is in fact 230v.

Yes we do in case you havent noticed we are struggling to contain the power drop at TV transmission and radio sites.

Examples of the problems are 399 VAC 228VAC Three and Single phase and 20-30% drop in power levels on some ATV and DTV transmissions.

Most recent was yesterday when a UPS dropped out and put the local PIE rack on a commercial station I service off air.

A local major site is drawing 500 amps and we barely make 400 VAC.

We asked powercorp for a trace chart and had no option but to close down redundant standby services to shed site loads and cap the mains current at 500 amps.




One solution is to pull all the voltage regulators out of the NEC's and run off 400 volts.

Speaking of Harvey I was in the local store last week looking at LCD TVs,
so I can assess if we have DTV problems on TV services I maintain, when viewers complain on the hot lines.
What I noticed about the various displays scattered high and low on the wall was the viewing angle of some screens was shocking and you had to stand square on to get good response.
One exception was the L and G display which was bright and clear at viewing angles approaching 135 degrees.

So my question is.
The Kogan in this weekends TV Times The 37 KEV model has good or bad viewing angle and is this a fair assessment of a TV display?
If you were buying an LCD TV screen to do comparisons of services what would YOU BUY?

Also 2 cents worth
A lot of bagging goes on here about price and quality and yet you assume that the TV transmissions are without fault, which believe me they are not.
I also assume you all have the correct antenna installed and have the quality of signal necessary to keep error rates at a minimum and pixilation low.
The TV stations are playing ducks and drakes with the services, not all power levels are identical and differ by 3db and in some cases 6db.

ANyway what LCD display would you buy and has anyone bought the 37 inch model the 37KEV at $900?

All my friends and I been buying from BingLee haymarket.
The lady provided very good service and recently one of mate's mate bought one, it was dead on arrival.

So he called her and she organised an immediate replacement on Monday morning and samsung came in with a brand new new install in his house.

He was in Vic and binglee is in NSW.

I think it is to do with the store and see what they can do and relationship woth the distributors and suppliers.

In many times, most sales people dont give a **** on you and thats why you have been get crap service.

I love today tonight . The annoying thing is that a lot of people seem to watch this dribble and take it as gospel

Aren't TT and ACA the shows that reminds you that the dishes need cleaning. Or the cat needs feeding. Its normally a reminder that you are watching tv for no particular reason.

TT and ACA have been running out of good current events or 'affairs' for a long long time. This is why once a month they run the same stories.


Journalism at its best.

The nominal voltage has changed to 230v in Australia with the +10/-6% that is true. In all reallity it will be a long time before anything changes. To put out a lower voltage at the transformers is plausable as you can change a tap setting to lower the voltage, but people living towards the end of the low voltage circuits would be really struggling with low voltages. Most transformers in urban areas will be set to put out around 250v without load, so people who live very close to a transformer will generally have a little higher volts than people who live towards the end of that low voltage circuit.

It would take a very larg infrastructure change in my opinion to actually change the system so that most people were getting around 230v instead of most people getting around 240v.

If I buy a cheap plasma TV and place it on a cheap glass table, do you think I'll get a week on TT/ACA when they both explode?
Or will I need the added impact of a toddler standing nearby?

WHAT'S THIS??? Today Tonight? POOR JOURNALISM!??!? NEVER!

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