Nielsen Videoscan HDM Ratios for W/E 30/09/07:

Week: 54:46
YTD: 66:34
SI: 61:39

Top Sellers List

1. Knocked Up HD 100.00
2. 300 BD 25.47
3. Next HD 18.26
4. Underworld BD 18.16
5. Troy BD 17.36
6. 300 HD 14.64
7. We Are Marshall BD 12.15
8. Planet Earth BD 10.50
9. Casino Royale BD 8.61
10. The Condemned BD 8.03

xx Planet Earth HD 7.50
xx Batman Begins HD 7.25
xx Troy HD 6.7
xx We Are Marshall HD 6.28


Historical Market Share
(BRD/HD-DVD)

Week Weekly YTD Since Inception
07/01 63.3/36.7 63.3/36.7 41.2/58.8
01/14 68.2/31.8 65.7/34.3 43.2/56.8
01/21 67.8/32.2 66.4/33.6 45.1/54.9
01/28 68.8/31.2 67.0/33.0 46.7/53.3
02/04 69.0/31.0 67.4/32.6 48.1/51.9
02/11 69.6/30.4 67.7/32.3 49.3/50.7
02/18 65.0/35.0 67.4/32.6 50.3/49.7
02/25 68.5/31.5 67.4/32.6 51.5/48.5
03/04 65.7/34.3 67.2/32.8 52.2/47.8
03/11 68.7/31.3 67.9/32.1 52.8/47.2
03/18 81.7/18.3 69.2/30.8 54.3/45.7
03/25 n/a 70.4/29.6 55.6/44.4
04/01 n/a 69.9/30.1 56.2/43.8
04/08 62.4/37.6 69.4/30.6 56.4/43.6
04/15 61/39 69/31 57/43
04/22 52/48 68/32 57/43
04/29 71/29 68/32 58/42
05/06 60/40 68/32 57/43
05/13 62/38 68/32 57/43
05/20 58/42 67/33 57/43
05/27 69/31 67/33 58/42
06/03 61/39 67/33 59/41
06/10 66/34 67/33 59/41
06/17 64/36 67/33 59/41
06/24 70/30 67/33 59/41
07/01 65/35 67/33 60/40
07/08 66/34 67/33 60/40
07/15 61/39 67/33 60/40
07/22 74/26 67/33 60/40
07/29 66/34 67/33 60/40
08/05 62/38 66/34 60/40
08/12 66/34 66/34 61/39
08/19 71/29 67/33 61/39
08/26 68/32 67/33 61/39
09/02 56/44 66/34 61/39
09/09 60/40 66/34 61/39
09/16 61/39 66/34 61/39
09/23 63/37 66/34 61/39
09/30 54/46 66/34 61/39

Hey Preach, you did everything but chart them in Excel for some visual impact for us management types

Yeah. It needs a Pie Chart.

Jesus, Norbit and The Messengers, BR fanbois really have bad taste in movies.

I haven't even heard of them.

You are soooooo lucky then. If only their existence could be ripped from my mind.

Fortunately I was sane enough not to see them.

Hmmm, would this have contributed to Blockbuster's decision I wonder?

Quite a few BR exclusives in that list...interesting.

I think this list demonstrates one point that is often missed;

There is a definite appetite for any new HiDef content, how else could you explain something as crappy as Norbit being in the top 10.

Apologies if this is a dumb question but what exactly do those sale numbers represent? Are they units sold x 10, 100 or 1000?

100 isn't many discs is it?

Considering the first title is exactly 100, I'm guessing it's some sort of relative percentage ...

Wow, I'm quite surprised the Matrix isn't up there being a HD-DVD exclusive atm....

That was my guess too.

Looks like the Planet Earth box set is the most popular HD title overall...

That's probably because they released two versions of it thus splitting the sales.

Here are total Sales numbers:

Sales:

The Departed 100,500 (Warner)
Superman Returns 84,150 (Warner)
Casino Royale 83,600 (Sony)
Batman Begins 53,500 (Warner)
MI:3 51,400 (Paramount)
Planet Earth 44,700 (Warner)
Happy Feet 40,100 (Warner)
Goodfellas 38,200 (Warner)
The Prestige 34,700 (Disney)
The Fifth Element 33,800 (Sony)
The Last Samurai 32,500 (Warner)
X-Men: The Last Stand 32,000 (Fox)
Underworld: Evolution 31,400 (Sony)
Ice Age: Meltdown 28,300 (Fox)
Night at the Museum 28,100 (Fox)
Black Hawk Down 27,900 (Sony)
Talladega Nights 27,700 (Sony)
Babel 27,000 (Paramount)
Serenity 26,200 (Universal)
Troy 26,100 (Warner)


It would be interesting to compare them with the SD totals.

And I've figured out the link to the info:

Neilsen Results

Go to contents and select the High Def Supplement. Sales numbers are on page 16. Enjoy.

Thanks Preach Don't think Warners would be unhappy and interesting to see Fifth Element figures given they are going to replace it

Definately not unhappy considering it is actually the number one title in term of revenue.

And 7 out of the first 11 sales spots, also would've thought BHD would've had bigger sales

Yep. And their top two sellers are available on both formats. I imagine Batman Begins will shoot up the rankings once they release it for Blu Ray as well. The big question will be, if they release it as THD, how will they deal with the sales figures?

Good point.

I wonder how do they count the HD DVD/DVD combos right now ?

Andrew.

Does anyone have the figures for players including PS3 and 360 add-on?

cheers

Don't have em but can tell you they're both getting Wii'd on

Its a popular little sucker for sure..

HD Forecast:

Forecast

"According to Digital Entertainment Group research, there are currently about 300,000 HD DVD players in the U.S. market, split in half between set-top boxes and Xbox 360s. There are 1.5 million Blu-ray players, with only 100,000 set-top boxes being counted among those. The rest are PlayStation 3s."

Neilsen Pie Charts - US


Anyone have HD sales figures for other markets?

LOL. I was joking about needing pie charts you know.

As requested partially, apologies for lack of pies and charts

Here it is in chart form

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=DS&a...&reg3=Japan



Andrew.

Little change since last week.

Neilsen BRD/HD-DVD Videoscan Numbers for Week Ending 17th June 2007:

Week 64/36
Year to Date 67/33
Since Inception 59/41

Slight increase in BRD's advantage for the week but not enough to change YTD or SI percentages.

Neilsen BRD/HD-DVD Videoscan Numbers for Week Ending 24th June 2007:

Week 70/30
Year to Date 67/33
Since Inception 59/41

Sales ratios of individual titles for week ending 17th June:

1. Ghost Rider (100)
2. Planet Earth HD (26.72)
3. Breach (21.19)
4. Apocolypto (13.69)
5. POTC: DMC (13.60)
6. Planet Earth BD (13.12)
7. POTC: CBP (11.34)
8. Casino Royale (10.05)
9. Blood Diamond (6.71)
10. Primeval (6.69)
xx. Letters from Iwo Jima BD (6.49)
xx. Batman Begins (6.33)
xx. Flags of our Fathers HD (5.88)
xx. Letters from Iwo Jima HD (5.77)
xx. Flags of our Fathers BD (4.92)

yy. Departed combined (8.52)

Interesting to see the performance of Ghost Rider compared with the other titles. Certainly lends weight to the argument that Day and Date releases of new titles is what drives sales, not catalogue releases.

And here's the sales ratios for the week ending 24th June:

1. Ghost Rider 100.00
2. Bridge to Terabithia 84.65
4. Planet Earth 76.53
3. Casino Royale 59.46
5. Apocalypto 35.65
6. PotC DMC 34.14
7. PotC CBP 28.53
8. Letters from Iwo Jima 25.76
9. Open Season 23.10
10. Breach 22.71

xx Letters from Iwo Jima BD 14.80
xx Batman Begins HD 13.50
xx Letters from Iwo Jima HD 10.96
xx Complete Matrix Trilogy HD 9.01

The sales figures for the next week will be interesting. There were 12 exclusive HD-DVD releases and 2 dual format releases against no new BR exclusive releases so it will be interesting to see whether or not HD-DVD can get closer to BRD. Personally I just can't see it because there isn;t one title among those 14 that I'd buy.

Watched Ghost Rider yesterday. One thing these sales figures proves is people still have no taste in movies.

HEh.. that made me chuckle

Preach, Surely these figures would only be representative of the American market trends.

Wouldn't European markets show a different bias where HD DVD tends to be the more popular format ?

C.M

Yes.

It could be different. I don't know. That's why I put "US Market Only" in the thread title.

I could only find two articles on it. Both contradicting each other!

hd-dvd-takes-early-lead-in-european-market



and this one:

Blu-ray-easily-surges-past-HD-DVD-in-Europe




So that clears that up!

Just found this quote in an article on Gizmodo:



HD Format War Limps on in Europe

Still nothing concrete. Just BS and unsubstantiated statements from both sides. I'll keep dredging.

Some reported information from Germany:




Sorry, they didn't post an active link.

From what I've read it appears that these ratios are similar in France and the UK as well. Overall it seems to be playing out very similar to the US.

Please note though that these numbers are extremely small with 3 months worth of sales being about a third of what is sold in the US per week so they're not really going to have much of an impact on the "war" at this stage.

As a matter of fact I think the last time Europe influenced a war was 1945 and even then the Americans decided it for them.

Here's a graphical representation of the rental situation over there as well:

German HD Rentals

As these figures for BR disc sales are largely driven by the adoption of the PS3 as a Blu-ray player, it will be interesting to see what happens to them if the current version of the PS3 (pre- profile 1.1) fails to be compatible with future BR discs.

C.M

While 1.1 may be a problem for standalone units, I don't see any reason why the PS3 should have a problem with it. It's a powerful computer for crying out loud. While they may not be able to enable it entirely through firmware, they should be able to install some sort of BD-J emulator on the hard drive that a new firmware knows it has to load in order to play these discs.

Mind you, that's not to say they will do it. Just saying that I'm sure they could get it to work if they really want to.

Shouldn't be any more difficult than say writing an emulator to play old PS2 games should it?

Touche.

are you arguing for or against with this one?

Just found an interesting link over at AVS. It shows the sales ranking for DVD players at one of their major electronics retailers (Circuit City):

Circuit City DVD Player Sales Rankings

Now this is a live/updated link so it might look differently when you click on it but as of right now the new Sony BDP-S300 Blu Ray player is ranked at #5. There are only two stand alone units above it (2 Philips units, the others above it are portables).

What I find interesting is that it's ranked ahead of the Sony and Samsung SD-DVD players (6th and 8th respectively). If this is sustainable it's good news for HDM going mainstream. Of course, as this player has just been released it could simply be a result of pent up demand and it may die off in a similar way the PS3 did.

As an aside, the highest ranking HD-DVD player is the HD-A2 in 21st place. Even more interesting is the price on this unit. They're selling it for $272.

Nothing

Neilsen BRD/HD-DVD Videoscan Numbers for Week Ending 1st July 2007:

Week 65/35
Year to Date 67/33
Since Inception 60/40

As expected, a slight swing back to HD-DVD this week due to the fact that there were 14 new titles released for the week on HD-DVD and only 2 on Blu Ray (both of which were released on HD-DVD as well).

The consistent 2:1 ratio finally had an effect on the since inception numbers which changed 1 percentage point in Blu Rays favour.

Clearly bu-ray are selling more discs, but at a 5:1 player advantage, a 2:1 sales advantage must be somewhat concerning