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Owen
According to this article, SED has been delayed yet again to very late 2007 at the earliest.

http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArti...toryID=nT343273

Sounds like it is just not cost competitive, and is dead in the water at the moment.
Given the delay, other technologies could well overtake it, meaning SED will never get off the ground.

Sony’s SXRD technology is looking good for the next couple of years, as it can provide better blacks and shadow detail then Plasma or LCD flat panel, together with very large screen sizes at considerably lower cost.
astormsau
QUOTE (Owen @ Mar 9 2006, 08:34 AM) *
According to this article, SED has been delayed yet again to very late 2007 at the earliest.

http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArti...toryID=nT343273

Sounds like it is just not cost competitive, and is dead in the water at the moment.
Given the delay, other technologies could well overtake it, meaning SED will never get off the ground.

Sony’s SXRD technology is looking good for the next couple of years, as it can provide better blacks and shadow detail then Plasma or LCD flat panel, together with very large screen sizes at considerably lower cost.


Glad i'm enjoying my plasma now smile.gif
Mr. Whippy
QUOTE (Owen @ Mar 9 2006, 07:34 AM) *
Sony’s SXRD technology is looking good for the next couple of years, as it can provide better blacks and shadow detail then Plasma or LCD flat panel, together with very large screen sizes at considerably lower cost.


It feels like we've been talking about it for a couple of years, will look forward to actually seeing an SXRD display one day.
Owen
QUOTE (Mr. Whippy @ Mar 9 2006, 10:58 AM) *
It feels like we've been talking about it for a couple of years, will look forward to actually seeing an SXRD display one day.



Yes its been years, 3 in my case, as I first saw an LCoS RPTV at the 2003 CES in the form of the ill fated Toshiba 57” 1080p RPTV.
I remember stairing at that thing for a hour and a half in amazement.
It was so much better then a 60” Plasma it was ridicules. You had to stand less then a meter from the screen to see the pixel structure.
They were on sale in the US for about $10k USD, and I seriously considered importing one, but they where withdrawn from sale due to reliability issues with the Hitachi LCoS Chips.

About 18 months later the first Sony SXRD RPTV, the 70” Qualia 006, was released in the US, and it was haled as a great display, but at $13.5k USD it needed to be.

About 10 months after the 006 came the second generation, and much cheaper SXRD displays. A 60” can be purchased for about $4k USD, and a 50" for about $3k

Later this year the improved 3rd generation SXRD’s should be released, and we should see them here.
A 70” should cost about $5k USD, or half the expected price of the upcoming 65” 1080p Panasonic Plasma.
If that’s not value, I don’t know what is.



Another story on SED delay.
Looks like its for real.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060308/japan_panel_tvs.html?.v=1
madmax
Well that's just f'n GREAT! mad.gif
Bronx19
By the time it launches, plasma will have evolved to eliminate the majority of its flaws, at a fraction of the cost of SED.
madmax
Hmmm, doubt it. 18 months is probably not even 2 generations of plasmas, I'm sure they will improve but only a little.
Chopstar
QUOTE (madmax @ Mar 9 2006, 04:00 PM) *
Hmmm, doubt it. 18 months is probably not even 2 generations of plasmas, I'm sure they will improve but only a little.


Panasonic are bringing out 1080p panels.
I dont think the panels need much more improvement for now. Its more like the content that needs to lift its game.
Diode
another link
http://news.com.com/Toshiba,+Canon+delay+S..._3-6047405.html
Alfred the Great
QUOTE (Bronx19 @ Mar 9 2006, 03:54 PM) *
By the time it launches, plasma will have evolved to eliminate the majority of its flaws, at a fraction of the cost of SED.

SED is supposedly dirt cheap to produce, it is just the plant and reasearch & development cost that need to be re-couped.
Chopstar
QUOTE (Alfred the Great @ Mar 9 2006, 04:40 PM) *
SED is supposedly dirt cheap to produce, it is just the plant and reasearch & development cost that need to be re-couped.


Yes and given the rate that LCD's and Plasma's are falling the recoup time will no doubt be extended.
Thats the gamble.
Mr_Independent
QUOTE (Lasty @ Mar 9 2006, 04:34 PM) *
Panasonic are bringing out 1080p panels.
I dont think the panels need much more improvement for now. Its more like the content that needs to lift its game.

That's a good and often overlooked point there Lasty.

People often assume being that DVD is digital that it must be all the same and standard or superior, this is not always the case.

I own around 200 DVD's and the quality is sometimes vastly different between titles and it's not always the older movies that are lacking....often it is the new releases that are dreadful !

You would assume that a better display will make these inconsistencies and or anomilies more apparent, but I guess time will tell with SED.
Darklord
QUOTE (Bronx19)
By the time it launches, plasma will have evolved to eliminate the majority of its flaws, at a fraction of the cost of SED.


QUOTE (Lasty)
Panasonic are bringing out 1080p panels.
I dont think the panels need much more improvement for now. Its more like the content that needs to lift its game.


As much as I like plasma, there are certain inherent weaknesses which won’t be overcome. They have very good ANSI contrast, but l can’t see black levels getting much better than they are now. Sure, you'll have more trickery with dynamic contrast modes with black levels changing on the fly, but real maximum black levels will never reach the inky blacks of CRT and SED. That much I'll happily bet money on.

Motion is also about as good as its going to get with plasma. The time it takes for the phosphors to settle and recharge is a physical limitation of the technology itself. There will always be some degree of posterization and primary colour breakup on edges of fast objects under motion.

SED’s biggest benefits are not just superb black levels and ANSI contrast, but a very fast response time of less than 1ms (better than CRT from all accounts). This makes them ideally suited for sport, video games, and all high frame rate progressive sources (not such a big deal with 24p based film sources which plasma already does a very good job with). Their colour range and “organic look” are supposedly also superb, given their CRT origins.

Having said all that I’m sure as others have stated that SED will have it's own inherent negatives that are yet to surface. One that has already been brought up is flicker from low refresh rate sources (just like CRT) which you’d expect given the incredibly fast pixel response time. This means that any 24p input from Blu-Ray will have to be frame doubled or tripled to 48p or 72p to eliminate flicker. We may even find a return to 100hz modes (as seen on CRTs with interlaced SD sources) to alleviate the flicker of 50hz material.

I expect like all new display technology it will take several generations for SED's full potential to be realised.
Austen
Once again adding fuel to my arguements, if you want a product, go and buy it !!!

It's no point waiting for the "next best thing", there's always going to be advances in technology.

Love my plasma !!! So glad I got it six months ago and didn't wait for SED !!!!

Austen.
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