As I used this forum to gain feedback on the cheaper PVR's. I thought I would offer some back on my purchase.
Purchased on on ebay and received it last Friday. I have the Panasonic TX-76DT30A (76cm Wide) which has the built in SD Tuner.
On the whole really happy with it for the price.
Like others I find the useability lacking a little. some functions like the timer are not friendly to access on the remote.
Using SCART-SCART, It picked up all channels same as the built in Tuner.
The picture is slightly sharper on the built in tuner compared to the PVR.
When turning the PVR on, it automatically switches to AV to view PVR input.

Noteably, My channel 10 digital reception on the panasonic has always been weak (breaking up). Not so on the PVR. Channel 10 is fine. does any body know what this indicates ?
All channells indicate that signal is unreliable (75%), but they do not break up. I have not checked aerial direct to TV. It was via a VCR and now through a PVR. Should I ?

You mentioned a SCART to SCART connection.
What sort of signal are you using?
If the Supernet is like the Wintal it does not support RGB even though the software indicates it does.
On the Wintal seletcing RGB actually outputs composite so svideo (Y/C) is a better choice.
In case the supernet really does do RGB you should test it out to make sure.

Thanks Cemalley, I will check.
I presume its in the Supernet settings somewhere.

The Wintal does not support RGB, I suspect because it uses v. 3.39 of the firmware.

However, the Supernet running v. 3.40 most definitely does support RGB.

Should you run the RF loop through the PVR ?
or is there an alternative ?
Like Splitting the RF before the PVR to bothe TV and PVR?
I'm wondering if the signal weakens via going RF-PVR-TV ?

I am running Grobi 3.40B, but I don't believe it is a firmware issue anyway.
Even the 3.39 version gave the option of RGB in the Signal Output menu but considerablel testing, using various TV inputs some of which allowed RGB and some which did not, made it clear that RGB was not output.
I would have said it output RGB prior to that.
Recent feedback from Wintal indicated it did not support RGB so I spent considerable time checking it myself.
Have any other Wintal owners investigated this?

I run the RF through the PVR, then VCR then TV and have no trouble on any of them but that will depend on your signal strength.
Yes, there will be signal drop but you will get signal drop with splitters too unless you add amplifiers as well.

Hmmm - I currently have my Supernet plugged into an RGB/CVBS SCART port and get a much better picture outputting RGB compared to the CVBS output (this also confirms that it's not outputting S-Video). I'll try hooking it up to the S-Video/CVBS SCART port tonight (which doesn't handle RGB); if the picture's black and white or weirdly coloured, I'll be able to confirm it's sending out RGB.

The only explanation I can think of as to why the Wintal would be different is if they did not fully wire the SCART output on the box, an unlikely scenario IMO.

That would be good.
That was one of the things I tried.
My TV has primarily SCART inputs. Some support RGB and some s-video, all support composite.
On the RGB ones with output set to RGB the quality was no better than composite.
On the ones which only supported composite and s-video, signal output set to RGB worked fine when it shouldn't and further s-video looked better.
All cases were using a fully wired SCART to SCART cable.

PS It was Wintal/Radio Parts who did indicate that the Wintal does not support RGB.
The Supernet may indeed be different.

Mainly that the Supernet is using a highly sensitive Philips TV tuner



That's normal, it appears. When our apartment building's DTV upgrade was done, the techs set the masthead amps carefully to deliver a signal of about this strength.



The antenna path I use is wall -> PVR -> VCR -> TV. I figure it's best to let the digital tuner get the least attenuated signal.

Righto. Checked out the Supernet's output on my TV's second SCART port.

1. The sync signal being output in RGB is actually composite, which explains why you can see colour when your TV's input is set to CVBS, and why comparison is difficult.

2. I can say almost certainly that RGB is being output from the Supernet on RGB setting. One of the advantages of the Supernet is that you can change between CVBS and RGB on the fly. Switching from RGB to CVBS, I noticed a heap of dot crawl, colour bleeding and a darker, less well defined picture, all hallmarks of composite video...