Just did a rescan and found SC 50 HD showing as 1080i. Only showing a test pattern at the moment but its a start.

SteveO

sick ass

Got a cap of the test pattern

could u get a link plz

I think datvman's post might be a question since he's in QLD. I'd also like to know what the bitrate is and whether it is 1440x1088 or 1920x1080. I'd take a cap if it was on-air here, but there's no activity yet here in Wollongong (received from Sydney).

no i ment 'Have YOU guys got a cap of the test pattern"

oh

no

Sorry no can't do that. Its just the vertical colour bars, no sound.

SC HD is ~12.64Mb/s
------AC3 Audio: 447.51Kb/s
TS information says 13Mb/s (FOR AUDIO: AC3: Bitrate 448 Kbps Sample Rate 48 KHz
AC3: Mode complete main Coding 2/0 L, R)

SC10 SD is ~ 5.87Mb/s
------MPEG 2Audio: 257.67Kb/s
TS information says 6Mb/s (FOR AUDIO: Elementary Stream PID 354 (0x0162) MPEG-1 Audio
MPEG1 Audio: Bitrate 96 Kbps Sample Rate 32 KHz
MPEG1 Audio: Layer I Mode Stereo
)

Screen Capture: http://img173.exs.cx/img173/1634/tenhd7os.jpg (resized from 1440x1080 to 1920x1080)

Hehe, the SC10 SD sound info is stuffed up , its wrong in Wollongong too though I guess it doesn't affect anyone. They should use a higher HD bitrate, don't waste them on nulls. Or are they gonna introduce a VPG soon?

There is a possiblity that a VPG may come on the SC10 network later (of course this was just an email from an anonymous person at SCB (using the email form on their site to contact them about it)).

They may just be copying Ten (or Ten told them not to go higher due to people like you Winston that pick up SC10 from non-licensed areas).

Heheheh So I'd be the scapegoat for PRiME being 576p (if they choose to go down that path) too? I stay on the Sydney channels most of the time anyways though. How about the Canadians? They can get American OTA/FTA stations and they're also relayed on cable.

Can someone please upload the TSReader readout?

Sure : Click Here

I have never done one of these exports so I did the ALL option.

Thanks.

Looks like SCTen HD is 200kbits better off than Ten HD but there is a hell of a lot of null packets. Either they are planning to put up a VPG or they don't know how or are unwilling to optimise the mux.

They are also the only 1080i broadcaster using h x 1080 instead of h x 1088.

I just got the test channel here in Ballarat!!!!!

> video basics: 1440*1080 @ 25fps @ 0.7031 (16:9) @ 13000000bps, vbvBuffer 444

-> starting export of video data @ GOP# 0

!> dropping useless B-Frames @ GOP# 0 / new Timecode 00:00:00.000

packs: 36888 100% 6938328



-> Video: fr/ ct/ 1p/ cg/ og/ dg -> 82/ 1/ 0/ 7/ 0/ 0

-> Video length: 82 frames @ 00:00:03.280

-> GOP summary: min. 20, max. 24 fields; contains interlaced frames

-> avg. nom. bitrate 12981395bps (min/max: 12970000/13055200)

-> set first sequenceheader bitrate to 9800000bps

---> new File: D:\Video\2005-03-31(Thu)PM0329-CHD40.m2v



--> Teletext on PID 0x113 (SubID 0x10)



--> AC-3/DTS Audio on PID 0x4BC

Audio PTS: first packet 03:04:14.262, last packet 03:04:17.846

Video PTS: start 1.GOP 03:04:14.883, end last GOP 03:04:18.163

-> adjusting audio at video-timeline

-> src_audio: AC-3, CM, 2/0(2.0), 48000Hz, 448kbps @ 00:00:00.000

!> 1 frame(s) (32ms) added @ 00:00:03.232

audio frames: wri/pre/skip/ins/add 102/0/0/0/1 @ 00:00:03.264 done...

---> new File: D:\Video\2005-03-31(Thu)PM0329-CHD40.ac3

Still not showing up here in newcastle

Yeap I'm picking up SC HD Channel here is Wagga Wagga NSW. Just a Colour Bar Test but it's a start. Prime HD is still SD. However we still don't have the WIN HD Channel.

Yup, Wollongong has it today.

Why is anyone worrying about bit rates being higher on the regionals than the Metro channels? The video quality is only going to be as good as its original source bit rate provided on the HD feeds from Metros. Also there's no point in hoping Prime are going to magically broadcast in 1080i when all of 7's 'HD' content is garbage 576p...If they did upconvert it would be like using a scaler on your DVD but not even as good..

Seven does 1080i internally. They just transmit 576p.

Except some locally produced stuff that is 576 25p and then frame doubled.
http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=1890903

how do u find out bitrate on the fusion card?

You dont think then will do this anytime soon? Im getting annoyed with all these 576p Channels.

Hello DTV addicts in Canberra

SCTEN HD. The teac is picking up station 50 but alas no pic or sound as at 7:15pm Friday 1 April. Is this a B/C issue - ie no signal or is it a STB problem?

WIN HD test loop and PRIME test screen are both very good.

Thanx Tim

SC10 is still colour bars here.

SteveO

Any idea on when we might see SC10 broadcasting properly?

I called them. had no idea. Said he wuold call me back

Call you back as in...later on...or next week...or next month?

Sorry just really want SC10 HD

Stevo

No colour bars

Using a TEAC DV-B800 with vers 1.4

Tried rescanning channels

Any suggestions on how to receive SCTEN HD

Thanx Tim

Tried rebooting

Thanx Tim

If your getting 5 you should be getting 50.

Not sure about last night but its up this morning.

Not familiar with the Teac but if it has a manual scan capability you might find it that way.

SteveO

The same on my Teac 800, no ten

Sounds like the Teac might have a problem.

If so you should have a case for a replacement as it is not fit for purpose.

SteveO

I have the same problem with the LG hd stb receiving a signal from black Mountain ..... its finding ch. 50 but no video or audio

Hi Cummo,

that is really interesting that you have the same issue on a totally different brand of HD STB.

Just to confirm what is happening, Ch 5 and 50 are picked up ok in a channel scan. Ch 5 can be viewed in SD but as soon as Ch 50 is selected the sceen goes blank and the audio continues for about 5 seconds then stops ... then nothing.

When I bring up info it says '0 x 0 i'

I have tried picking it up off Tuggeranong Hill with no success. (in fact the antenna is a band 5 UHF pointed right at the stick but the scan usually picks up VHF Ch 6 off Black Mountain first as the scan starts at the bottom and works up. Signal strength is the max and quality is only one bar off the top. Who says you need the correct type of antenna corectly aligned to get digital!)

As it isn't working off Tuggeranong Hill I haven't condemed the STB just yet as, if it is the same as the Analogue path, this Translator just takes an off air feed from Black Mountain. If the is a problem in the HD off air signal from Black Mountain then the Tuggeranong translator would only repeat it.

So would be very interested to see if others, with the same brands of HD STB as TEAC and LG are having the same problem with TEN HD in Canberra.

Other than this I am very happy with the TEAC and want to confirm the problem is with it before I seek a refund/exchange.

Thanx everyone for your help.

Tim

Tim, etc
I am also not getting any picture from my DVB800 on either SC10 HD or WIN HD. Audio on WIN is fine. I do see the Prime HD loop ok as well as the other HD channels.

While not seeing any of this new stuff I also have not seen the standard HD loop for the past couple of days.

Is there a PID change or something that the TEACs and LG are not coping with? Or some other parameter that is upsetting the STBs? It seems that Kenneth and most of the others who have posted here are using cards rather than STBs.

Noone else other than us 'Regional' types seem to be having these problems or did they go through it years ago?

Alistair

I was receiving Win HD loop (crap) fine until today (so Steveo I suggest its the tv stations who are not fit for purpose not the box) and now I only het audio and 0 X 0i info.

Here we go again, at least Primes test look cute! lol

Auswilliam

I am not having any problems with either of my boxes - Hydef and DGTec (Footy). There is obviously a compatability problem between some boxes and some broadcasters.

SteveO

I think you are right, Steveo. My panasomic is fine. I do remember when I firdt brought my strong 5290 it had problems with Prime who if my memory serves me well (not very often lol) was that Prime were using paramters either just inside the spec or just outside the spec. Hopefully they'll all work it out.

Auswilliam

I really hope so!

Still not getting SCTEN HD and WIN HD Pic has also dissapeared for the first time ever. Audio is comming through but a little distorted.

PRIME HD is the only true HD pic received but appears to have no audio

All SD, ABC HD and SBS HD are OK

Thanx

Tim / Auswilliam
Up until 15 minutes ago I was experiencing exactly the same.

I was only running the 2/12/04 version of the 1.04 firmware and have just upgraded to 17/12/04. After a rescan I still get only audio on WinHD but .....

SC10 is showing the test pattern and a continuous tone!

Can you check if you are getting this as well. If you are it probably means that SC10 have changed something. I compared the PID values with those posted by the PC guys and they seem to be ok and did not change with the rescan.

If only Win would work and then I would be able to watch Kerri-Anne (whooppee).

Alistair

SC10 has been broadcasting the test tone all day where it wasn't before.

SteveO

I have LG4100 HD Box and last week when I checked WIN HD I was gettign test loop. Now I have nothing, no picture or sound. Rescanned and it finds ch80 but still as above, but signal meter says I am full signal. I am getting picture on Capital HD(test pattern) and PRIME HD. Checked with JB Hifi Belco and they have the WIN loop running. I am lost how to get picture and sound. Any help please.

Hi cridsy,
I have the same box with the same problem. Both Win and Humax (LG) are checking it out.

Thanks, that was my next step, Warranty call, will hold off and if you could advise when you hear anything. I tried WIN in Wollongong and Tech was going to get back to me, havent heard anything back..

The SC10 picture appeared on the same day they added the sound - coincidence or did they do something else at the same time. If Tim and Auswilliam are also able to see the bars then something has changed in the signal to allow us to see it and Win only needs to do the same(?).

Earlier in this thread a couple of you posted details of the transmission header. Can you check if anything has changed.

So far I have not been able to find any similar experiences from previous posts in the STB forum

Alistair

Unfortunately I can't but the PC guys should be able to.

SteveO

Sorry guys I have only seen the sc10 stuff on my panasonic and vision plus pc card. The teac was great for everything, cept have never seen sc10 on it and can now only here win!

Auswilliam

now have sc10 bars and sound teac info 1940x1080i

so I definetly say its the stations not the hardware

good night all

auswilliam

Wow your so happy about colour bars!

Funny your getting 1940x1080, im sure it is 1920x1080...