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[ashabobo]

McAudio, on Nov 23 2011, 10:05 PM, said:

I have just purchased the Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Blu-ray twin pack. I have found the disc to be of very poor picture quality. To the point of wanting to return it for a refund. The picture is simply dark and fatiguing on the eyes. Can't hardly make anything out as everything is so black and no detail. Has anyone else found this?

Hopefully Warner Bros. fix it and re-release it (as I'm sure they will another hundred times).

if you thought the 2d version was bad the 3d version is worse still- ghosting in most of the scenes certainly not worth the extra cost

[dave_con]

Yeah - mine was also very dark...

The other thing I noticed was that the picture would regularly "jump" and everything on screen would do a little double-take for a fraction of a second.  Anyone else notice that?

[SDL]

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This Best Buy exclusive (for an unannounced window) features some of the worst video on the Blu-ray 3D market, and that includes all the crummy cash-in titles. It's cheap, and perhaps for a reason. If you buy this release, do so only to get the 3D disc as a bonus, and view it at your own risk. Buy this for the 2D disc, the loads of extras, or even something as petty as the lenticular slipcover. Just don't expect a single good thing from the 3D.

Hi def Digest comment on the 3D verison, just about sums up 3D in a nutshell really and unless a movie is made well with proper 3D cameras is a complete waste of money. In fact they also say that Part 1 was bad that Warner refused to release the 3D version at the cinema.

haven't seen any bad reviews on the 2D though, haven't undone mine yet and checked. What are you guys viewing the 2D version on? What equipment? Is the screen/pj calibrated? I saw it at the movies and it was a dark movie you would probably need pretty good black reproduction.

[SDL]

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Everything about this video presentation shines. In short 'Deathly Hallows: Part 2' is one of the finest demo discs you'll be picking up this year.

This is the Hi Def Digest review of the 2D version, so I am not sure if the Oz version is different or not, but it might be worth saying what you are viewing it on and what source and how it is connected?

[SDL]

ashabobo, on Nov 23 2011, 11:11 PM, said:

if you thought the 2d version was bad the 3d version is worse still- ghosting in most of the scenes certainly not worth the extra cost

People are suggesting the ghosting is on some displays where the refresh rate is not high enough. Not sure how true that is.

[andys]

SDL, on Nov 24 2011, 09:02 AM, said:

People are suggesting the ghosting is on some displays where the refresh rate is not high enough. Not sure how true that is.

I can't say i noticed any ghosting on my D8000. I'll take another look though.

Andys.

[ncl_knight]

The HT Guys did a review on it the other week, and noted the same darkness issues. They also said it was difficult to make out detail in some of the scenes. It is supposed be be a dark film, but I agree that as it is, it makes viewing difficult.

[tonyjg]

McAudio, on Nov 23 2011, 10:05 PM, said:

I have just purchased the Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Blu-ray twin pack. I have found the disc to be of very poor picture quality. To the point of wanting to return it for a refund. The picture is simply dark and fatiguing on the eyes. Can't hardly make anything out as everything is so black and no detail. Has anyone else found this?

haven't you noticed that the films, as they progress, got darker and darker ???

There is an upcoming HP movie.... the yet to be released 9th film in the series... which will be TOTALLY BLACK for 155mins.  You'll only hear the voices.    (will be the cheapest to produce - and promises to be the most successful !)

[yorac]

tonyjg, on Nov 24 2011, 03:06 PM, said:

haven't you noticed that the films, as they progress, got darker and darker ???

There is an upcoming HP movie.... the yet to be released 9th film in the series... which will be TOTALLY BLACK for 155mins.  You'll only hear the voices.    (will be the cheapest to produce - and promises to be the most successful !)

HP:MIBIII..................  

[SDL]

ncl_knight, on Nov 24 2011, 03:04 PM, said:

The HT Guys did a review on it the other week, and noted the same darkness issues. They also said it was difficult to make out detail in some of the scenes. It is supposed be be a dark film, but I agree that as it is, it makes viewing difficult.

But who or what are they? And what do they look at it on? Is it calibrated? Hi Def Digest I have come to trust and they say it is reference, I will take a look for myself, but people saying something is dark may be suffering from crushed blacks. Maybe?

[myrantz]

SDL, on Nov 24 2011, 12:31 PM, said:

But who or what are they? And what do they look at it on? Is it calibrated? Hi Def Digest I have come to trust and they say it is reference, I will take a look for myself, but people saying something is dark may be suffering from crushed blacks. Maybe?

The last HP movie I got (HP6)... When you do a screencap and look at the histrogram, it only used up approx half of the range..

If the current movie is anything like the last, it's shot normally, then digitally enhanced by moving the exposure to the left. (Suspicion as the curves look unnatural)...

Maybe the latest is the same.

[MichaelCPE]

You can tell from the extras that the last HP was filmed much brighter, and that the darkness comes from processing.

A reference quality blu-ray (in reviews) is one that exactly matches the directors vision and the film.

Hence The Wrestler is regarded as reference quality because the look of 16mm film has been faithfully reproduces for the blu-ray. HP is also a very good transfer because it faithfully matches the darkness of the film.

But a viewer might not like the directors vision - and so some will hate The Wrestler because it is extremely grainy, and some will hate HP because it is so dark that often it is hard to see what is going on.

[myrantz]

MichaelCPE, on Nov 24 2011, 01:00 PM, said:

A reference quality blu-ray (in reviews) is one that exactly matches the directors vision and the film.

I guess.. I don't agree with it but I guess I don't know what artists think anyway.

Kept expecting to see the credits for Director of Lighting to be "Photo Shopped", or "Bit Shifter" when I finished watching HP6.. (This is one fun movie to watch with dynamic contrast on by the way )

Yet to see HP7 part 2 on BD.. But at least HP7 part 1 isn't as bad as 6... If possible, can somebody post a histogram of a dark scene for this latest pic?

[jsmith]

McAudio, on Nov 23 2011, 10:05 PM, said:

I have just purchased the Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Blu-ray twin pack. I have found the disc to be of very poor picture quality. To the point of wanting to return it for a refund. The picture is simply dark and fatiguing on the eyes. Can't hardly make anything out as everything is so black and no detail. Has anyone else found this?

Hopefully Warner Bros. fix it and re-release it (as I'm sure they will another hundred times).

I've still to get this on Blu, however reviewers worldwide are giving this 4.5 - 5/5... some saying it's a reference disc.

As others have asked is the panel calibrated, and was the viewing environment optimal including bias lighting? What panel do you use, size, and what is your viewing distance?

Sorry to hear you find it so bad... it is a damn dark film that's for sure.

JSmith  

[kopthat]

I've seen a lot of ghosting in the Harry Potter films
some Dementers and Goblins too, and it's worse in 3D !!!

[myrantz]

McAudio, on Nov 24 2011, 05:22 PM, said:

It is not a matter of it being a dark movie... It is the worst transfer I have seen. All the more reason to re-release the movie and make more money!!!

Don't have to say it thrice..   As said, if possible, do a screen grab, and then show us the RGB histograms... Am quite interested to see if they did the same to this new movie....

Director's intent.. That may well be true, but I don't buy it...

[:)]

will check out and post back, wiht the deep blacks of the kuro hopefully its not like sitting in the dark watching one of the talkies  

I guess this one a test on the black and shadow detail performance of your display so hopefully get to see some of the movie whether on the pj or plasma  

[yorac]

McAudio, on Nov 24 2011, 09:39 PM, said:

Sorry for the three posts (dam iPhone buttons!)  

I have done more tests and got the picture quality up to scratch on the plasma. Picture still looks really bad (dark) in the theatre room where I have tried to make a few adjustments to no avail.

Now I'm not sure if the problem lies with the JVC projector, the Anthem processor or the OPPO player??? Every other blu-ray looks awesome???

Any ideas?

Have you tried just running the Oppo straight into the JVC to see if there is any difference........

[:)]

McAudio, on Nov 24 2011, 09:39 PM, said:

Sorry for the three posts (dam iPhone buttons!)  

I have done more tests and got the picture quality up to scratch on the plasma. Picture still looks really bad (dark) in the theatre room where I have tried to make a few adjustments to no avail.

Now I'm not sure if the problem lies with the JVC projector, the Anthem processor or the OPPO player??? Every other blu-ray looks awesome???

Any ideas?

Is there any parts that are really bad. let me know I can check out. give us a time stamp on the movie, chapter time. and get back to you

[SDL]

Not suggesting anyone is wrong, just surprised given not just the rating on hi def, but also the text where they talk about the quality of the picture. Haven't opened mine yet, hopefully get a little time over the weekend.