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[709er]

Just finished watching THE LEGEND OF THE GUARDIANS - THE OWLS OF GA'HOOLE.
We all thoroughly enjoyed it.
The animation, detai, colour and 3D effect was absolutely incredible as was the DTS HDMA track - arguably the best 3D visuals I've seen yet.
Definitely a demo disc for 3D and an excellent family film. My review:
http://www.dtvforum....0

Edited by 709er, 12 March 2012 - 04:43 PM.

[cwt]

MLXXX, on 11 March 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

This particular movie, released in 2010, was filmed in 3D. It isn't a post-processed simulation of 3D.  So when rain is falling you can momentarily glimpse the depth location of individual drops! That would be a nightmare if you tried to achieve it with post-processing from 2D footage!

My bad MLXXX so many of these with similar generic themes ;this is probably the one Ime thinking off;

http://movies.nytime...ies/11step.html

all the better its shot with stereo cameras

[blairy]

A couple of 3D dicsc arrived in the week...

Puss In Boots; ordinary movie (I thought) although 11 yo boy loved it.  3D video was a treat (and the audio is good too).  HiDef Digest gave it a 4/5 (and they know better than me) but I reckon it was probably better than that.

Hugo; if you don't get the movie try the HiDef review, essentially it's a movie makers look at how much movies toouch our lives.  The 3D is great (I noticed a little cross talk but my samsung is likely the culprit here) and the audio is amazing (especially the gears etc inside the clock tower.

[blairy]

709er, on 12 March 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Just finished watching THE LEGEND OF THE GUARDIANS - THE OWLS OF GA'HOOLE.
We all thoroughly enjoyed it.
The animation, detai, colour and 3D effect was absolutely incredible as was the DTS HDMA track - arguably the best 3D visuals I've seen yet.
Definitely a demo disc for 3D and an excellent family film. My review:
http://www.dtvforum....0

Watched this the day I got my 3D panel (over 12 months ago).  It's defnitely one to have in your collection.

blairy

[709er]

blairy, on 17 March 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

A couple of 3D dicsc arrived in the week...

Puss In Boots; ordinary movie (I thought) although 11 yo boy loved it.  3D video was a treat (and the audio is good too).  HiDef Digest gave it a 4/5 (and they know better than me) but I reckon it was probably better than that.

Hugo; if you don't get the movie try the HiDef review, essentially it's a movie makers look at how much movies toouch our lives.  The 3D is great (I noticed a little cross talk but my samsung is likely the culprit here) and the audio is amazing (especially the gears etc inside the clock tower.

My copiesa of both of these arrived this week too.
At a quick glance the PQ on both is excellent...as you say.
We'll be watching Hugo in 3D tonight for our "family movie" and I am really looking forward to it, especially the 7:1 audio

[crtlover]

blairy, on 17 March 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Hugo; if you don't get the movie try the HiDef review, essentially it's a movie makers look at how much movies toouch our lives.  The 3D is great (I noticed a little cross talk but my samsung is likely the culprit here) and the audio is amazing (especially the gears etc inside the clock tower.

The crosstalk in this movie is severe. It starts with the eiffel tower in the opening credits
and is particularly bad in many scenes, especially the ones with the mechanical man.
It's not your system as I've watched this disc on a Samsung set up and a Panasonic system
and they both display the problem.

[MLXXX]

crtlover, on 18 March 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

The crosstalk in this movie is severe.

Is the movie more watchable at a reduced contrast setting? This would reduce the challenge for the display system.

[709er]

crtlover, on 18 March 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

The crosstalk in this movie is severe. It starts with the eiffel tower in the opening credits
and is particularly bad in many scenes, especially the ones with the mechanical man.
It's not your system as I've watched this disc on a Samsung set up and a Panasonic system
and they both display the problem.

I noticed this too using the PJ/Oppo combo, and decided not to watch the film in full until I've done some viewing experiments.
We have a 3D TV and a Pana 3D player, so I'll try a bit of mix'n'matching and tweeking of the 3D settings.

[sirhc55]

crtlover, on 18 March 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

The crosstalk in this movie is severe. It starts with the eiffel tower in the opening credits
and is particularly bad in many scenes, especially the ones with the mechanical man.
It's not your system as I've watched this disc on a Samsung set up and a Panasonic system
and they both display the problem.

When viewed on my Samsung 3D it is OK but on my Sony HMZT-1 it is brilliant. Absolutely no crosstalk at all.

[MLXXX]

The financial distress of a particular retail chain (WOW Sight & Sound) has resulted in price discounts in those stores of 50% for Blu-ray discs. I've acquired some 3D discs that I would probably otherwise not have bothered trying.  One of these is Sanctum 3D, but I found the story line and acting so uninteresting, I did not see the movie through to the end.

A Blu-ray I can write positively about is Cane Toads: The Conquest (2010). A number of reviews of it can be found at http://www.rottentom..._conquest_2010/ . It's a slow and steady documentary tracing the history of cane toads from their introduction into North Qld in 1935-37, to their current spread across the top end of Australia, heading further into WA, in plague proportions.

It is reported the cane toad (Bufo marinus) had reached Brisbane by 1945. However I recall they became quite severe in Brisbane in the 1970s. Walking outside at night you could tread on a number of them very easily if you weren't careful! In the 1970s, mosquitoes were very troublesome in summer. These days in Brisbane mosquitoes are a minor problem (because of Council spraying) and toads are relatively rare. Just how and why the cane toad numbers have reduced so dramatically in Brisbane I have not been able to ascertain in a quick search tonight; and there is no mention of this reduction in the Blu-ray, which paints a picture of an unstoppable plague.

The 3D photography is well done, with many beautiful shots of nature, apart from the expected shots of the tadpoles and toads themselves. And there are numerous interviews of everyday people who experienced cane toads over the years, as well as of scientists and politicians. If you don't mind a slow and steady paced nature documentary (it lasts 1hr 23m), this 3D Blu-ray is recommended.

One of the scenes is of fruit bats.  Only in 3D do hundreds of flying bats make for coherent viewing. (In 2D, they form a muddled mass of black shapes!)

[709er]

709er, on 19 March 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

I noticed this too using the PJ/Oppo combo, and decided not to watch the film in full until I've done some viewing experiments.
We have a 3D TV and a Pana 3D player, so I'll try a bit of mix'n'matching and tweeking of the 3D settings.

I am happy to state that the crosstalk mentioned in the post above is next to non existent through the film.
It is a fantastic, visual feast and the detail is amazing.....not to mention the 7:1 audio

[cwt]

709er, on 04 April 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

I am happy to state that the crosstalk mentioned in the post above is next to non existent through the film.
It is a fantastic, visual feast and the detail is amazing.....not to mention the 7:1 audio

Thats a relief Ruth ; there is a lot of variation with x talk depending on your system and whether 1st gen or later . Youve got the same projector chipset as I  so it cant come soon enough ;finally just shipped

[cwt]

Got around to watching Drive angry tonight and can see why its gone up 5 quid since I bought it If you like grindhouse/tarantino movies its good ; more dont think just go for the ride stuff. The 3d [no conversion] is a treat with pop out integral to the plot and not gimmicky [if an axe flies at you it just heightens the suspense its not done with a knowing wink] When Cage aims his ancient shotgun at Fichtner its inches away from you . William Fichtner and his coin toss is just one example of the inventiveness on show ; the surreal dream sequences with a spaced out Nick Cage is layered with depth aplenty. If there was crosstalk it went unnoticed as the shots just drew you in..

Nothing looks obviously layered ;rooms have good depth but its the long stretches of highway and muscle cars that you appreciate the depth The director Patrick Lussier knows how to frame 3d properly ; no clash of the titans here.. It has similar themes to ghost rider [Cage is from hell and is very dour natch - he's on a mission] so can be polarising if you dont like Cage ; I like the single mindedness  ymmv   Best 8pd Ive spent ;amazing what they charge out here for it

Edited by cwt, 06 April 2012 - 05:06 AM.

[MLXXX]

cwt, on 06 April 2012 - 05:03 AM, said:

The director Patrick Lussier knows how to frame 3d properly ; no clash of the titans here..

I recoil in repugnance at the mention of Clash of the Titans 3D. Very possibly the worst, hurriedly put together, 3D simulation ever commercially released. IMHO, it should never have been allowed to be shown.

[MLXXX]

Made an unplanned visit to the cinema today to see the 3D version of James Cameron's 1997 blockbuster Titanic. Both my partner and I were very impressed with the quality of the simulation. I make some further remarks in the thread The Problems Of Shooting S3-D at post #20.

[kopthat]

Tin Tin was a good movie to watch in 3D and it added to the viewing experience.

[709er]

Has anybody watched or trialled The Three Muskateers? I had a quick look today and the crosstalk looks severe

[MLXXX]

709er, on 12 April 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

Has anybody watched or trialled The Three Muskateers?

Not as yet.

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I had a quick look today and the crosstalk looks severe

Crosstalk becomes noticeable if:

1. the video source includes scenes with high contrast as between the Left and Right content.

2. the display or projector is susceptible to ghosting.

709er, what pj or display panel was giving the ghosting?

Edited by MLXXX, 12 April 2012 - 11:07 PM.

[blairy]

709er, on 12 April 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

Has anybody watched or trialled The Three Muskateers? I had a quick look today and the crosstalk looks severe

Sorry, haven't seen the 3D, my wife bought the 2D version.  Link to review on hidef digest...http://bluray.highde...rs_2011_3d.html...they rate it 5/5 and describe it as reference level for video.

blairy

[blairy]

I know it's not bluray 3D, but foxtel 3D currently showing a History Channel 100 years Titanic special.

Not the best 3D ever but interesting and certainly the best footage of the wreck I've ever seen.

blairy

[cwt]

709er, on 04 April 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

I am happy to state that the crosstalk mentioned in the post above is next to non existent through the film.
It is a fantastic, visual feast and the detail is amazing.....not to mention the 7:1 audio

+1 so many clever 3d shots even changing focus between automatons that have  different depth cues . Even the original melies films had slight 3d   Knew it was going to be good from the moment it started snowing in the room   Didnt even need 3d dynamic ; 3d thx was plenty bright .

[kopthat]

Loved Hugo and not a sign of any crosstalk on my Optoma HD33 with Samsung BD-C5900 3D player

Brilliant job by all involved great performances and stunning visuals

[709er]

MLXXX, on 12 April 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

Not as yet.


Crosstalk becomes noticeable if:

1. the video source includes scenes with high contrast as between the Left and Right content.

2. the display or projector is susceptible to ghosting.

709er, what pj or display panel was giving the ghosting?

I have a Panasonic PT7000AE PJ and used the Oppo 93 for my quick peek.
It was very evident on the menu. The bottom menu choice bar was riddled with ghosting.
I quickly flicked through a few chapter starts and although the picture seemed highly detailed, the ghosting was still apparent. Must watch it in it's entireity to "make the final call", but it was not looking promising.

On another note: watched The Adventures of TinTin last night (in 3D) and it was excellent, though most of the depth was into the screen rather than out. No ghosting at all Classic John Williams score - so reminiscent of ROTLA!

[MLXXX]

If authoring a 3D Blu-ray using Sony Vegas Pro software there's a setting that can be selected, or not, to minimize ghosting.

It seems possible that some 3D Blurays are being authored "as they come" at up to full strength Left Right whereas others are perhaps being adjusted to avoid excessive demands on today's consumer display devices.

[blairy]

709er, on 16 April 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

I have a Panasonic PT7000AE PJ and used the Oppo 93 for my quick peek.
It was very evident on the menu. The bottom menu choice bar was riddled with ghosting.
I quickly flicked through a few chapter starts and although the picture seemed highly detailed, the ghosting was still apparent. Must watch it in it's entireity to "make the final call", but it was not looking promising.

On another note: watched The Adventures of TinTin last night (in 3D) and it was excellent, though most of the depth was into the screen rather than out. No ghosting at all Classic John Williams score - so reminiscent of ROTLA!

Have you tried fiddling with the settings in your Oppo...not to go off topic but one of the choices is PAL/NTSC/Multi.  With Tron I had all sorts of ghosting issues.  Selecting multi in my oppo solved the problem and I've left it set to multi.

blairy