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Interesting new addition to NADs master series kit, with the M51 DAC here,



some info listed here too from cedia,
http://www.computera...DIA-HDMI-inputs

we were fortunate enough at our own hifi show just gone to have demoed, I grabbed a pic of it here style_emoticons/default/smile.gif



very interestingly it not only has top spec 24/192 via usb, but also has hdmi in/out so can take hd audio from a BD player. plus looks like can be used as a digital pre amp. could there fore be a good unit for those looking for that sort of flexibility,

a very interesting device overall !

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Looks like available for sale locally now,

http://www.carltonau...=node/view/1623

Having seen this unit in person, for the quality of build and tech packed inside, nad have done very well to bring this out at the price.

As a nad master series gear owner definitely keen to one day check one of these out

[myrantz]

Wonder if this can decode DSD off HDMI input?

specsheet says HDMIx2 (stereo only)...PCM stereo, bitstream strereo or DSD stereo?

Looking at the manual next.. Wonder can this somehow do features like a HT bypass, and if so, may be interested in incorp this into my HT

Edit: My favourite feature -> Switch polarity (invert phase) via the remote!! Don't think it can do DSD..

Edited by myrantz, 10 January 2012 - 11:18 AM.

[dantan]

Wow! Great price, for a Masters Series component!

Perhaps a unit I might look into, in the future.

Dan.

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myrantz, on 10 January 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

Wonder if this can decode DSD off HDMI input?

specsheet says HDMIx2 (stereo only)...PCM stereo, bitstream strereo or DSD stereo?

Looking at the manual next.. Wonder can this somehow do features like a HT bypass, and if so, may be interested in incorp this into my HT

Edit: My favourite feature -> Switch polarity (invert phase) via the remote!! Don't think it can do DSD..

if a manual pops up, maybe worth downloading, might have few more answers to the specific questions of your treb.

dantan, on 10 January 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

Wow! Great price, for a Masters Series component!

Perhaps a unit I might look into, in the future.

Dan.

hi dan, yes something built for their 2ch master series integrateds in the m2 and m3 so imagine its a top notch unit to suit.

probably something right up your ally. since has hdmi input and hdaudio decoding for a 2ch setup, plus with hdmi video out, in your 2ch setup probably would remove the need for an av pre pro

if is something do check out, do be sure to post back.

[Cheesehead_001]

I really think it's great value as well particularly with the HDMI input for hi-def sources. Just bought a Rega Dac and a few months ago a Nuforce Icon HDP both for PC based-audio, both are great overall within their own segments but the NAD adds that extra functionality with HDMI.

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Cheesehead_001, on 10 January 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

I really think it's great value as well particularly with the HDMI input for hi-def sources. Just bought a Rega Dac and a few months ago a Nuforce Icon HDP both for PC based-audio, both are great overall within their own segments but the NAD adds that extra functionality with HDMI.

yeah I agree, quite nice units you got there. but yeah the nad is quite unique in this regard. watching the youtube nad presentation theyre definitely looking ahead allowing for for BD audio as source. But yeah could be a real handy thing for some I imagine.

[myrantz]

:), on 10 January 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

if a manual pops up, maybe worth downloading, might have few more answers to the specific questions of your treb.

Manual here... That's where I found the invert phase feature ... No mention of DSD though I think...

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myrantz, on 10 January 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

Manual here... That's where I found the invert phase feature ... No mention of DSD though I think...

cool !

some good feedback here from moderator from a forum here on the unit
http://www.htguide.c...84&page=1&pp=35

no dont think can use it as a dsd dac as such. but the guy is using it with sacd. I think its quite funny how for windoze you have to download drivers. but with mac it just works out of box hehe

anyways from the guys impressions it seems like quite a unit !

[myrantz]

:), on 10 January 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

cool !

some good feedback here from moderator from a forum here on the unit
http://www.htguide.c...84&page=1&pp=35

no dont think can use it as a dsd dac as such. but the guy is using it with sacd. I think its quite funny how for windoze you have to download drivers. but with mac it just works out of box hehe

Just to confirm, reading the manual, this wouldn't do HT-bypass?

:), on 10 January 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

anyways from the guys impressions it seems like quite a unit !

Wonder if DSD feature can be added in as a "upgrade" in the future... One can only hope

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myrantz, on 10 January 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Just to confirm, reading the manual, this wouldn't do HT-bypass?


Wonder if DSD feature can be added in as a "upgrade" in the future... One can only hope

reading the manual would appear to be able to be set on fixed which bypasses the units vol control

Quote

VOLUME SETUP
The M51 VOLUME control function is dependent upon the “Volume Setup” menu setting. “Volume” can either be set to “Fixed” or “Variable”. Press [SETUP] button to launch “Volume Setup” menu. From “Volume Setup” menu, press [ENTER] or [S] to bring up “Fixed” or “Variable” settings.
Fixed
If “Volume” is set to “Fixed”, audio output level is fixed and the M51’s Volume Control is bypassed. • Press [D/F] to set a desired preset dB level. Confirm setting by
pressing [ENTER] or [S]. Thereafter, audio output from M51 can be adjusted by using the volume control of the separate amplifier the M51 is linked into.
• If“Volume Setup”is set to“Fixed”, remote control’s [VOL 5/6] will have no effect and effectively disabled.

really though I think where that feature would ideally be used if plan to use is where not using it as a pre amp, and instead as a conventional dac and utilising with a conventional pre amp with its own vol control.

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So anyone here got one yet ?

This one so far seems a sell out success for nad   and not surprisingly

If wasn't saving for the camera upgrade probably have one of these babies now. But not to fret, all in good time. Good things come to those who wait hehe

[Cheesehead_001]

I don't have one yet but have ordered one, so approx a month as per the store

Bring it on

Edited by Cheesehead_001, 11 April 2012 - 11:29 PM.

[Dave Williamson]

Mine is promised for May, I can't wait.

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very cool. do be sure to post back once you have it

[beejay76]

dantan, on 10 January 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

Wow! Great price, for a Masters Series component!

Yes, considerably cheaper here than the US ($2000 USD MSRP) and Europe (2000 Euro). That's a refreshing change!

But it is made in China, I just hope over time it proves to be more reliable than a lot of other stuff built in China.

Edited by beejay76, 15 April 2012 - 11:25 AM.

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beejay76, on 15 April 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

Yes, considerably cheaper here than the US ($2000 USD MSRP) and Europe (2000 Euro). That's a refreshing change!

But it is made in China, I just hope over time it proves to be more reliable than a lot of other stuff built in China.

I've got the nad m3 and m5 masterseries 2channel components and had them few years now. rock solid. built like tanks. the 5 year warranty on them is encouraging as well. with something like a dac all solid state no moving/wearing parts not that there is much to go wrong. so would be expecting it to be a pretty trouble free device

[BlueHarvest]

Missed the May shipment, but mine is coming in June. Its going to be a long wait but im sure it will be well worth it!

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Those looking for Proffesional reviews it gets a ripper in the July edition of stereophile magazine. Now downloadable via zinio if subscribe to it or have an iPad

[myrantz]

A question I've always been meaning to ask - the M51 looks grounded.... Are the other master series grounded as well?? If yes, no ground loop issues?

[kajak12]

:), on 13 June 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

Those looking for Proffesional reviews it gets a ripper in the July edition of stereophile magazine. Now downloadable via zinio if subscribe to it or have an iPad

Has stereophile ever published a bad review???????
All the nad51 stands for is a pcb that would fit into a pc without the fancy chassis.

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good to hear your very personal opinion on the device kajak, its good to counter that with a professional review such as that in stereophile and the generally overwhelmingly positive experience of those that own the device

while theres all sorts of dacs in the market place and those people dream up with what bits they can cobble together, I see the nad m51 significant enough to be a trail blazer and with its capabilities has potential to be a game changer. And I havent even heard it in my system ..... yet

when you get the chance to experience one, look forward to reading your personal impressions

[kajak12]

:), on 16 June 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

good to hear your very personal opinion on the device kajak, its good to counter that with a professional review such as that in stereophile and the generally overwhelmingly positive experience of those that own the device

while theres all sorts of dacs in the market place and those people dream up with what bits they can cobble together, I see the nad m51 significant enough to be a trail blazer and with its capabilities has potential to be a game changer. And I havent even heard it in my system ..... yet

when you get the chance to experience one, look forward to reading your personal impressions

I lost count of how many generally overwhelmingly positive experience of those that own the device devices i have seen read about and the advertised on the forsale thread of sna not even interested in m51 with switch mode power supply,opamps and upsampling to use on my system besides many comment behind closed doors about the m51 which dont get published to upset the current trend.

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good stuff thanks for your personal opinion,

let us know your personal impressions when have had opportunity to experience the object in question

[kajak12]

:), on 16 June 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

good stuff thanks for your personal opinion,

let us know your personal impressions when have had opportunity to experience the object in question

Here are my personal impressions listening to the nad m51 yesterday i attended a gtg details are here http://www.stereo.ne...-come-and-meet/
above average front end tuned to the room by stuart from sgr audio himself.
The mighty highly spoken for nad m51 pumps out sound feed it complex music and it looses composure very poor timbre,tonality of natural instruments it replays music with a artificial sound like processed food you get from your local shops with added msg.
the good news its 1.5k no where near sota or a game changer just hifi missing flesh and bone.
The sgr system is far beyond what the nad dac can deliver imho