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[lizclinton]

Yes and they also need to drop the "In HD" off the watermark too.

[pc9]

holdencaulfield2007, on 25 April 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Every-time I see these comments I am glad I stuck to my good old CRT hooked up to a Magic TV PVR. It is more forgiving of an inferior source than a Full HD screen. If the majority of FTA TV was in proper HD I would go out and buy a nice big Plasma or LCD tomorrow. I blame Alex Encel!

Agree with you - but have a look at a lower resolution screen in a plasma.  I recenly purchased a cut price cheappie (LG 42" 1024 x 766) which doesn't attempt to upscale the crappy compressed MPEG 2 FTA services and it produces a really smooth watchable picture on just about everthing.  Even Austar's standard def (MPEG 2) channels produce a good result.  By comparison, the 51" Samsung FHD in the lounge doesn't like the compressed stuff - comes out full of artifacts, noise and other distortions.

[wheelz]

pc9, on 27 April 2012 - 07:53 AM, said:

Agree with you - but have a look at a lower resolution screen in a plasma.  I recenly purchased a cut price cheappie (LG 42" 1024 x 766) which doesn't attempt to upscale the crappy compressed MPEG 2 FTA services and it produces a really smooth watchable picture on just about everthing.  Even Austar's standard def (MPEG 2) channels produce a good result.  By comparison, the 51" Samsung FHD in the lounge doesn't like the compressed stuff - comes out full of artifacts, noise and other distortions.

You do realise your cheapie LG is upscaling SD fta/austar and dvd's while downscaling blu ray and native HD from fta & austar.

[pc9]

wheelz, on 28 April 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

You do realise your cheapie LG is upscaling SD fta/austar and dvd's while downscaling blu ray and native HD from fta & austar.

Yep - its in the spare room - only hooked up to FTA.  Its adequate with HD stuff without being spectacular.  The way HD's going in Australia the downscaling wont be an issue for too much longer.

[doodlefeatures]

Melbourne v the Saints is bloody terrible

[dkint3]

i have my iQ2 hooked up to my 40 " LED LCD Samsung via HDMI (through Denon AV Receiver) and direct to TV via component ....

And I reckon the upscaled matches look BETTER viewed through component than through HDMI.
(and of course native HD matches look better on HDMI).

Don't know why, but I'm thinking component 'softens' the upscaling effect - whereas HDMI is possibly magnifying it by comparison.

Hope this is of some use to those despairing over the quality of upscaled broadcasts (which I agree isn't great).

And I should add my Denon receiver just 'passes through' HDMI (it doesn't have any picture processing capabilities)

And that, FOXTEL HD via component still looks much better than the blocky mess that exists for AFL on 7mate (Prime7) here in NSW.

Edited by dkint3, 29 April 2012 - 07:56 AM.

[joshrowe]

Rohan Connolloy rips into Channel 7's poor AFL coverage including the lack of true HD (which affects FoxFooty subscribers).

http://www.theage.co...0429-1xsyn.html

[wheelz]

joshrowe, on 30 April 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

Rohan Connolloy rips into Channel 7's poor AFL coverage including the lack of true HD (which affects FoxFooty subscribers).

http://www.theage.co...0429-1xsyn.html

Would have been better if he didnt say"Im not as fussed as others" about HD. But the bad press about 7 the better.

[laurie]

wheelz, on 30 April 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

Would have been better if he didnt say"Im not as fussed as others" about HD. But the bad press about 7 the better.

Its water off a duck back! heard bit of the reply from Seven on SEN today and its all good according to that person we Seven are doing it well .....lol take the hands off you dickheads

cheers laurie

[pc9]

laurie, on 30 April 2012 - 02:47 PM, said:

Its water off a duck back! heard bit of the reply from Seven on SEN today and its all good according to that person we Seven are doing it well .....lol take the hands off you dickheads

cheers laurie

Connolly's not the only one running this line - tried to get a journo from Fairfax interested a while ago but he claimed that  people who want HD coverage " are just a bunch of precious sooks who will never be satisified with anything".  There might be some truth to this argument if 7 provided a decent standard definition picture instead of the blury mess they're putting out at the moment.

[Wags]

joshrowe, on 30 April 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

Rohan Connolloy rips into Channel 7's poor AFL coverage including the lack of true HD (which affects FoxFooty subscribers).

http://www.theage.co...0429-1xsyn.html

Not a bad article, but I don't think he went hard enough at them.

[doodlefeatures]

I still just find it so bloody ridiculous that in 2012 in a so-called developed country that HD TV is considered some sort of a luxury, all sport on FTA TV should be HD, especially the major local sports (footy, league, cricket) yet NONE of them are

[pc9]

doodlefeatures, on 30 April 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

I still just find it so bloody ridiculous that in 2012 in a so-called developed country that HD TV is considered some sort of a luxury, all sport on FTA TV should be HD, especially the major local sports (footy, league, cricket) yet NONE of them are

South Korea have mandated that all broadcast television is to be delivered in HD (DVB S2) by 2015. Understand Taiwan may be doing same. Australia developed country?................we live in the backwoods!

[HomerJ]

dkint3, on 29 April 2012 - 07:50 AM, said:

i have my iQ2 hooked up to my 40 " LED LCD Samsung via HDMI (through Denon AV Receiver) and direct to TV via component ....

And I reckon the upscaled matches look BETTER viewed through component than through HDMI.
(and of course native HD matches look better on HDMI).

Don't know why, but I'm thinking component 'softens' the upscaling effect - whereas HDMI is possibly magnifying it by comparison.

Hope this is of some use to those despairing over the quality of upscaled broadcasts (which I agree isn't great).

And I should add my Denon receiver just 'passes through' HDMI (it doesn't have any picture processing capabilities)

And that, FOXTEL HD via component still looks much better than the blocky mess that exists for AFL on 7mate (Prime7) here in NSW.

I recently found that using an external scaler improved Foxtel quite a bit. I think the scaler in the IQ2 is not so good. Try changing your IQ to use native res and see if you TV or Denon does a better job.

[wheelz]

joshrowe, on 30 April 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

Rohan Connolloy rips into Channel 7's poor AFL coverage including the lack of true HD (which affects FoxFooty subscribers).

http://www.theage.co...0429-1xsyn.html

Sevens reply
http://www.theage.co...0430-1xv4n.html

[pc9]

wheelz, on 01 May 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Sevens reply
http://www.theage.co...0430-1xv4n.html

totally lightweight - down on the farm stuff.   Pathetic 7.

[Wags]

joshrowe, on 30 April 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

Rohan Connolloy rips into Channel 7's poor AFL coverage including the lack of true HD (which affects FoxFooty subscribers).

http://www.theage.co...0429-1xsyn.html

The way that cat craps on, you would think 7 have been broadcasting for just this season.........they have done it for 40 years!!!!

I reckon it was better 40 years ago.

[BamBBBam]

pc9, on 01 May 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

totally lightweight - down on the farm stuff.   Pathetic 7.

And notice how they completely dodged the HD question.. scumbags.

[Ralfi]

BamBBBam, on 01 May 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

And notice how they completely dodged the HD question.. scumbags.

Sadly, it means nothing to Se7en. Which is why it needs to be made to mean something to Foxtel.........make PayTV feel like they're the ones suffering by missing out on subscribers/losing existing customers, due to the impact of Se7ens' ignorance.

Something surely has to come about from their talks soon enough.....it's been a while since Dementreou urged the two parties to come together..

[laurie]

BamBBBam, on 01 May 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

And notice how they completely dodged the HD question.. scumbags.

yep I listen to SEN the Melbourne sports radio station and it seems the media in Melbourne are totally missing the HD question,which was the main reason the Age article attacked Seven, then personalities got involved attacking each other

cheers laurie

[Ralfi]

Still nothing eh?

Got a call from Foxtel during the week, & I had to explain why I wasn't signing up. He didn't know about the 4 upscaled games.......

[joshrowe]

It looks like Channel 7 are using HD cameras - see: http://josh.tw/JSG73F

Is Channel 7 using HD or SD outside broadcast trucks for their AFL production?

Channel 7's equipment provider (Gearhouse Broadcast) has 4 HD trucks and 2 SD trucks according to this page: http://www.gearhouse...side-broadcast/

Any industry insiders care to make a comment?

[Hosko]

joshrowe, on 15 May 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

It looks like Channel 7 are using HD cameras - see: http://josh.tw/JSG73F

Is Channel 7 using HD or SD outside broadcast trucks for their AFL production?

Channel 7's equipment provider (Gearhouse Broadcast) has 4 HD trucks and 2 SD trucks according to this page: http://www.gearhouse...side-broadcast/

Any industry insiders care to make a comment?

Try doing a search, has been covered numerous times.

[joshrowe]

Hosko, on 15 May 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

Try doing a search, has been covered numerous times.

Covered most recently by you: http://www.dtvforum....9

So Channel 7 use both HD and SD trucks and they could send a HD feed to Foxtel for some games but not all of them.

Is there any way of finding out which games have the HD trucks and which have the SD trucks ?

[Slattery]

Come on Demetriou, DO SOMETHING. And to think I just emailed channel asking them if they would be broadcasting the 2012 AFL GF in 3D like they did in 2010 on the test digital transmission channel. LOL . They can't even give us HD.