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[Owen]

AntV, on Aug 5 2011, 07:57 PM, said:

Has anyone noticed any issues with the viewing angle? I noticed this review  http://www.televisio...ing-Effects.htm  that suggests that by plasma standards it's a bit ordinary.

If it's correct I would assume it's due to the real black filter especially when the d6500 series seems to have a killer viewing angle  http://www.televisio...ing-Effects.htm

Cheers
Ant

Its normal for effective screen filters to restrict off axis viewing performance, its the price you pay for good blacks and contrast under ambient light.

If off axis performance is your priority get a base model Plasma as they don't have a filter worth speaking of so off axis permanence is great.

[Felix.]

SLE355, on Aug 3 2011, 08:32 PM, said:

How did you go?

Yes settings look quite good for the internal tuner as they also do for my TiVo. Aaron from Avical has been calibrating TVs across Australia for some time now. The ambient light level differences probably would have an impact on these settings between set-ups in different homes but these numbers look to be a solid starting point at the very least.

Haven't seen any orange faces. I have an old HD recording of The 4400 (back in the days before FTA TV sucked) and it displays superbly with very natural looking skin tones and terrific image crispness. So much of PQ ultimately comes down to the quality of the source and with the best of Blu-ray, Foxtel HD and HD gaming now available Aussie FTA is usually a very poor cousin nowadays.

Will also try the David Katzmaier settings on the weekend that Andrew mentions and see which one I prefer. Perhaps I haven't seen anything yet!  

Edited by Felix., 06 August 2011 - 01:31 AM.

[SLE355]

Felix., on Aug 6 2011, 12:32 AM, said:

Yes settings look quite good for the internal tuner as they also do for my TiVo. Aaron from Avical has been calibrating TVs across Australia for some time now. The ambient light level differences probably would have an impact on these settings between set-ups in different homes but these numbers look to be a solid starting point at the very least.

Haven't seen any orange faces. I have an old HD recording of The 4400 (back in the days before FTA TV sucked) and it displays superbly with very natural looking skin tones and terrific image crispness. So much of PQ ultimately comes down to the quality of the source and with the best of Blu-ray, Foxtel HD and HD gaming now available Aussie FTA is usually a very poor cousin nowadays.

Will also try the David Katzmaier settings on the weekend that Andrew mentions and see which one I prefer. Perhaps I haven't seen anything yet!  

Let us know how you go!

What you say about FTA is so true, most of what i watch is Foxtel HD. When i go in store and there showing something on FTA, every panel looks like crap!

Edited by SLE355, 06 August 2011 - 04:29 PM.

[XLR8]

http://www.avsforum.....php?p=20786657

D series owners reporting brightness pops on their d-series tv.
Feel free to report your findings.

[andys]

XLR8, on Aug 11 2011, 09:35 AM, said:

http://www.avsforum.....php?p=20786657

D series owners reporting brightness pops on their d-series tv.
Feel free to report your findings.

Have to say I've never seen it whenever I've observed the D8000, but I have seen the brightness flucuations on the 2011 Panasonics plenty of times.

Andys.

[Felix.]

SLE355, on Aug 6 2011, 02:29 PM, said:

Let us know how you go!

After many back and forths I have to say I prefer the Avical settings over the CNET ones. Whether one is more 'accurate' than the other I could not say. I just prefer the picture of the Avical settings and also prefer it over the default movie presets. It seems to give me the most natural and pleasing picture in my room environment

Edited by Felix., 22 August 2011 - 12:32 AM.

[Felix.]

XLR8, on Aug 11 2011, 07:35 AM, said:

http://www.avsforum.....php?p=20786657

D series owners reporting brightness pops on their d-series tv.
Feel free to report your findings.

Yes I've noticed it. It's fairly subtle and I've only detected it on certain material in certain circumstances but it is there.

[automan]

Felix., on Aug 22 2011, 12:07 AM, said:

After many back and forths I have to say I prefer the Avical settings over the CNET ones. Whether one is more 'accurate' than the other I could not say. I just prefer the picture of the Avical settings and also prefer it over the default movie presets. It seems to give me the most natural and pleasing picture in my room environment

Can you direct me to these Avical settings?

My 64D8000 is going on 3 months old now and I have noticed the PQ improve over time so time to try a different setting to see if its better than my current settings.

[petetherock]

Hi
Can I ask if the floating blacks, buzzing and other issues are very noticeable?
I also see one ex Pioneer owner here, that would be my point of reference, since I have no complaints at all of my Kuro KRP 500A.

[Felix.]

automan, on Aug 22 2011, 06:18 AM, said:

Can you direct me to these Avical settings?

Here you go. I've used the HDTV tuner settings.

SLE355, on Aug 2 2011, 09:08 PM, said:

A guy from Whirlpool had his 59" D8000 calibrated, heres his post.

Quote

Last week my Samsung PS59D8000 has been professional ISF Calibrated by Aaron Rigg from Avical.

The PQ results are stunning, it produces deeper blacks and the 2D looks to have more depth, almost 3D without wearing glasses (hehe). He also told me that the picture quality is a lot better then last years Panasonic VT20 but he has not been calibrating a VT30 yet

I can recommend everybody to let your expensive TV's be calibrated by a professional.

He calibrated my HTPC (2D+3D) and the internal HDTV tuner.

Anyway, I would like to share the perfect settings for my TV. Please note that this will perhaps not be the best settings for your screen but it can help you improve your Picture Quality:)

Windows 7 Media Center 2D Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-1.jpg

NVIDIA Color Desktop Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-2.jpg

Windows 7 Media Center 3D Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-4.jpg

HDTV Tuner Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-3.jpg

Edited by Felix., 22 August 2011 - 11:44 AM.

[automan]

The file is gone felix.

Can you post the settings please?

[automan]

petetherock, on Aug 22 2011, 08:59 AM, said:

Hi
Can I ask if the floating blacks, buzzing and other issues are very noticeable?
I also see one ex Pioneer owner here, that would be my point of reference, since I have no complaints at all of my Kuro KRP 500A.

No buzz at all, and never noticed any floating blacks at all!

Get this TV, it is a beauty!

[SLE355]

automan, on Aug 22 2011, 09:31 PM, said:

No buzz at all, and never noticed any floating blacks at all!

Get this TV, it is a beauty!

What's your viewing distance for the 64"?

[petetherock]

automan, on Aug 22 2011, 07:31 PM, said:

No buzz at all, and never noticed any floating blacks at all!

Get this TV, it is a beauty!

Thanks, this post about Panasonics (and it seems Samsungs too) got me unnerved...
http://forums.hardwa...d.php?t=3370765

I was considering the Sony HX 925, but that "soap opera effect" really gets to me...

[SLE355]

automan, on Aug 22 2011, 09:29 PM, said:

The file is gone felix.

Can you post the settings please?

Windows 7 Media Center 2D Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-1.jpg

NVIDIA Color Desktop Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-2.jpg

Windows 7 Media Center 3D Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-4.jpg

HDTV Tuner Settings:
http://s1222.photobu...ionReport-3.jpg

[Felix.]

Thanks SLE

[automan]

petetherock, on Aug 22 2011, 10:38 PM, said:

Thanks, this post about Panasonics (and it seems Samsungs too) got me unnerved...
http://forums.hardwa...d.php?t=3370765

I was considering the Sony HX 925, but that "soap opera effect" really gets to me...

I have never seen any of this on my set.

I had last years C7000 model for 10 months and never had it either.

Dont stress, just enjoy the set.

[automan]

SLE355, on Aug 22 2011, 09:37 PM, said:

What's your viewing distance for the 64"?

3.5 meters.

Perfect size.

[petetherock]

Anyone care to share where they bought theirs, and for how much? I can't wear the tiny frame  glassed that panasonic uses and I wear specs too, will that be an issue for the ones Samsung uses? I saw a wide frameless one from their premium series, is that the one provided or the one everyone uses?
Thanks

[petetherock]

You can pm if revealing prices is not proper .. Cheers

Edited by petetherock, 24 August 2011 - 08:07 AM.

[Owen]

automan, on Aug 23 2011, 11:09 PM, said:

3.5 meters.

Perfect size.

Not for movies its not. Move your seat closer or get a much bigger screen.
Seriously, more than 2.5 metres with a 64" is push it for movies.

[automan]

Owen, on Aug 24 2011, 11:02 PM, said:

Not for movies its not. Move your seat closer or get a much bigger screen.
Seriously, more than 2.5 metres with a 64" is push it for movies.

Perfect for me.

However I did measure my viewing distance and its 3 meters.

[kitcho75]

automan, on Aug 25 2011, 11:18 PM, said:

Perfect for me.

However I did measure my viewing distance and its 3 meters.

picked my 64D8000 up on the weekend and LOVE it
I sit about 2.8m from screen and that is perfect distance. have not had a full play around with it and im yet to fully tune the colours the way i like it but so far the picture looks awesome. And im coming from a panasonic plasma owner.

[Biber]

Picked up the 51" Samsung Plasma 8000 series yesterday as my bedroom set.  I have the 55" LCD cousin in the living room.  In both cases, I have carefully followed the calibration advice I have found here and elsewhere (as I did last year with my Sony 800 in the kitchen).  In every case, the only departure I have made is in the colour setting.  Every calibration I see has the colour way up too high for my liking.  With the Plasma 8000 yesterday, I basically halved the recommended setting and got skin tones that were recognisably human.

What do others think of this?  Surely those high colour settings can't be right?

[jliang70]

Biber, on Aug 29 2011, 10:55 AM, said:

Picked up the 51" Samsung Plasma 8000 series yesterday as my bedroom set. I have the 55" LCD cousin in the living room. In both cases, I have carefully followed the calibration advice I have found here and elsewhere (as I did last year with my Sony 800 in the kitchen). In every case, the only departure I have made is in the colour setting. Every calibration I see has the colour way up too high for my liking. With the Plasma 8000 yesterday, I basically halved the recommended setting and got skin tones that were recognisably human.

What do others think of this? Surely those high colour settings can't be right?

If you don't have a colorimeter or commerical software like chromapure or calman or the free software ( the name escape me) then you can google around the net for other people's settings for their sets.  I have to say striking for that good greyscale is probably the most important adjustment for a TV unfortunately this can not be done with human eyes.  In my two Samsung plasmas I usually have the contrast set around 65-70,  brightness around 40-45,  colour around just below mid 40 (with 100 been the max).