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[kandiman]

Hey all, just doing some quick research on buying a new TV, i've owned LCD TV's but never owned a plasma so i'm looking to get a plasma this time.

I'll be sitting roughly 1.5-2 metres away from the TV, is 42" too big for the distance? i find 32" too small.

Is the Panasonic 42V20A still selling? or is the newer 2011 models coming out soon?

Looking to spend max $1000 , my budget can stretch a bit if i can get something better  

[diesel]

The new models should start reaching our shores within the next few weeks. the 42V20 can be had for sub $1k and is a very good buy.

[pgdownload]

Bought this TV two months ago. Fantastic value and fantastic picture.

Same setup as you (was watching a 32" CRT from 2 metres and decided a current model flat screen might finally offer something more).

As mentioned available sub $1000 for a little while longer. FWIW I can't see much point in waiting for the new models. They'll be adding some small amount of capabilities (which most will never use) but I wouldn't imagine the PQ to be appreciably different.

Regards

Peter Gillespie

[kandiman]

Thanks for the replies, looks like I will be searching for one this week

when transporting the plasma in a car can you lay the plasma flat? Or do you have to put the plasma upright?

I have a volkswagen golf I hope the tv will fit in there

[cooksta]

kandiman, on Apr 4 2011, 02:04 PM, said:

Thanks for the replies, looks like I will be searching for one this week

when transporting the plasma in a car can you lay the plasma flat? Or do you have to put the plasma upright?

I have a volkswagen golf I hope the tv will fit in there

You should always transport plasma's upright, they are a glass product.

[pgdownload]

Upright.

If it don't fit pay the $50 for delivery.

Regards

Peter Gillespie

[kandiman]

Did a quick call around my local stores, harvey norman has 3 in stock, over the phone she says $1100, how low should I ask for when going into the store?

What prices have people bought the TV for?

[diesel]

When you consider people are picking up the 50"V20 for ~$1200, the 42" should be around $850-$900 at least!

[Owen]

Walk in with $850 cash in your hand and tell them you will buy the TV right now for that amount.
Don't screw them around if they say yes, but walk if they say no and try elsewhere.

[kandiman]

Owen, on Apr 4 2011, 10:57 PM, said:

Walk in with $850 cash in your hand and tell them you will buy the TV right now for that amount.
Don't screw them around if they say yes, but walk if they say no and try elsewhere.

Thanks sounds like a plan, i'll try my luck with cash in hand sometime this week

[phoenixman78]

Owen, on Apr 4 2011, 10:57 PM, said:

Walk in with $850 cash in your hand and tell them you will buy the TV right now for that amount.
Don't screw them around if they say yes, but walk if they say no and try elsewhere.

Haven't heard of anyone getting that TV for near that price so I doubt it but you never know.

kandiman, on Apr 4 2011, 11:30 PM, said:

Thanks sounds like a plan, i'll try my luck with cash in hand sometime this week

Cash in your hand won't impress them as credit cards are treated exactly the same anyways but I reckon very close to the $1000 mark either above or below is what you'll end up paying but as I said before, you never know.

[kandiman]

so far best price i have obtained $983 delivered , will do more hunting around during the week

[Owen]

The 50" is only about $1200, you should give it strong consideration. $1000 for a 42" is a bit steep these days.

Edited by Owen, 06 April 2011 - 07:29 PM.

[kandiman]

Owen, on Apr 6 2011, 07:27 PM, said:

The 50" is only about $1200, you should give it strong consideration. $1000 for a 42" is a bit steep these days.

I would go for the 50" but it will be too big as tv will be going into one bedroom unit

[Owen]

If the viewing distance is 2 meters or more it wont be to big.

Edited by Owen, 06 April 2011 - 07:59 PM.

[kandiman]

i think the viewing will be 2metres i thought 50" would be huge at that distance, so anything under 2metres don't get 50" ?

[Owen]

If you want to see 1080 resolution you need to be no more than about 2.1 metres from a 50" screen.
If you view from a little under 2 meters a 46" is appropriate for full HD viewing or for a cinema like viewing experiance.

Edited by Owen, 06 April 2011 - 08:03 PM.

[phoenixman78]

Owen, on Apr 6 2011, 07:27 PM, said:

The 50" is only about $1200, you should give it strong consideration. $1000 for a 42" is a bit steep these days.

$1000 for a really good 42" isn't steep. More power to anyone for getting a cheaper price but be realistic, $1000 for the best 42" plasma around is not steep and considering $983 is the best found so far your penny pinching if your going any further.

[diesel]

new models are coming

[Owen]

phoenixman78, on Apr 7 2011, 06:21 PM, said:

$1000 for a really good 42" isn't steep. More power to anyone for getting a cheaper price but be realistic, $1000 for the best 42" plasma around is not steep and considering $983 is the best found so far your penny pinching if your going any further.

Approx $200 extra for an 8" bigger screen is a bargain, you would need a very good reason to settle for a 42" of the same quality for $1000.

[phoenixman78]

Owen, on Apr 8 2011, 06:42 PM, said:

Approx $200 extra for an 8" bigger screen is a bargain, you would need a very good reason to settle for a 42" of the same quality for $1000.

I don't know where you get $1200 from for the 50" since anyone on here barely provides proof of their purchases so you can say the go price on a 50" V is $1200 but that doesn't make it true. As I said before under $1000 dollars for that 42" V is a bargain even if it's just under and if you get one at anywhere near $900 you've found a desperate salesperson who can't control the sale or you've lucked out on a further price drop that Panasonic have sent through. It's the salesperson who decides the price, not the customer no matter how much people in this forum think the opposite.

[Owen]

The customer decides how much they will pay and the sales person comes to the party or they loose the sale, simple as that.
The Samsung 3D capable 50" C7000 has been going for $1150, no way the V20 Panasonic is worth more. In fact I would take the C7000 in preference.

[phoenixman78]

Owen, on Apr 8 2011, 09:22 PM, said:

The customer decides how much they will pay and the sales person comes to the party or they loose the sale, simple as that.
The Samsung 3D capable 50" C7000 has been going for $1150, no way the V20 Panasonic is worth more. In fact I would take the C7000 in preference.

No the the customer doesn't decide what they will pay for a product because if no one chooses to sell to them at the price they want to pay then they must pay more for the product they want. When I was a salesperson if I had a customer who said they wanted an item at a particular price and I knew it was too cheap for that item I would simply say no and state why. If they walked that was fine by me especially if I knew they were on a fools quest, I didn't lose a sale because it's not a sale if it's not worth selling. The problem for retailers is they have weak salespeople who don't know how to close or ask for a sale and if someone says can you beat this price they stupidly just say "Yes I'll do it for $XX cheaper" instead of asking questions like where they got the price and how much cheaper do they want it or a good question is "If I beat that price are we doing business right now?". If a customer said no to that question I'd say "I could beat it but come back when your serious about buying and I'll see what I can do." If I got a poor response like "Tell me what your best price is or I won't buy from you anyway." I'd say "If you want my best price come back when your ready to do business." Too bad if they didn't like it, I wasn't a weak salesperson who just gave out discounts to someone who wanted to shop out 10 stores and waste my time. A good salesperson never lets the customer take control plain and simple, it's not personal it's just business.

Also you can't compare a Samsung to a Panasonic. Two brands with different costs and qualities but once again apart from people on here saying so with no proof, I haven't seen that model go anywhere near $1150.

[PersianImmortal]

I bought the P50V20A for just under $1,150 from JB Hifi a couple of weeks ago, without any real haggling. I've seen people quoting figures of around $1,050 or less for the same TV depending on what else they've purchased with it - see forums like Whirlpool for evidence of this.

As for the issue of salesmen and pricing, it's a two way street. Anyone who walks into a store and just comes up with some nonsensically low figure and demands the TV at that price is going to look foolish and walk away empty handed. It can't hurt I suppose but it will result in a lot of time wasting. Do your research, get a good idea of what the actual figure is for people buying that set, then try to get the same or slightly better. Research is hardly that difficult now with so many people posting not only prices, but where exactly they got that price, and even posting copies of receipts.

[Owen]

+1, do your research to find out a realistic price, walk in with cash in your hand ( a fist full of fifties lets them know you are serious) and let the salesperson know you will do the deal right now if they give you the price you want.

If they say yes deal done, its not ethical to back out and shop the price elsewhere when you have given a commitment to buy.
This is a no effort quick sale and any salesperson who wants a sale should have no trouble going along provided there is profit in the transaction.

Obviously if product is walking out the door or there are more buyers than available stock the situation is different. To that end its better the let the "new model" fever subside.

Edited by Owen, 09 April 2011 - 06:26 PM.