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[BladeRnR]

Fwoy, on 18 March 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

New full-length Trailer

http://www.comingsoo...ws.php?id=88141

Huge

Blade

[Vieira4]

That's gold I am gonna go to the midnight screening for sure.

[Vieira4]

Full trailer can be downloaded here:
http://www.hd-traile...vie/prometheus/

[yorac]

Just keeps looking better all the time..................

[Vieira4]

Doesn't look as though the TED 2023 talk is actually in the film.  It looks like it will only be as a viral sidekick to promote Prometheus.

Edit: Maybe it is in there - wikipedia quotes Guy Pierce as saying ""I'm only [in the film] for a minute"

Edited by Vieira4, 20 March 2012 - 07:46 AM.

[Vieira4]

Vieira4, on 19 March 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

Full trailer can be downloaded here:
http://www.hd-traile...vie/prometheus/

Watched the 1080p full trailer and the TED talk about 20 times last night on the 130" scope screen.  Totally amazing at that size I am going insane waiting for this.

[MarkTecher]

That is good.  Will it be a part of the film or just promo stuff to assist promoting it?  And sorry for the upset I am about to cause, but how will this tie into the wrong doings that is AVP and the character of Mr Weyland that is in that film?

[Chopsus]

IIRC that would have been this ones father? and it was a clone of him in Aliens 3?

[SkItZo]

Ok, This thread needs to die, or atleast have the title changed.
Obviously this movie has nothing to do with aliens (other than stealing parts of it in an attempt to boost popularity of ANOTHER SF thriller)

Lame.

Edited by SkItZo, 21 March 2012 - 03:18 AM.

[Chopsus]

SkItZo, on 21 March 2012 - 02:49 AM, said:

Ok, This thread needs to die, or atleast have the title changed.
Obviously this movie has nothing to do with aliens (other than stealing parts of it in an attempt to boost popularity of ANOTHER SF thriller)

Really?

I don't think Ridley Scott would set out to write a prequel to the movie that made his career and then produce something that fails to add to the cannon of the original series.
Reality is it would be easier for him to create another SF Thriller without the constraints of the Alien franchise, if that was his intent, so I think you are mistaken and have drawn the wrong conclusion.

Edited by Chopsus, 21 March 2012 - 06:58 AM.

[GrantleyBuffalo]

Regarding Guy Pearce as Peter Weyland: the TED talk he gives is in 2023; the 'Prometheus Project' gets under way in 2073, according to the corporate timeline. So the Lance Henriksen/"Bishop" Weyland is most likely to still be a generation or two away.

Also: regarding the thread title... yeah, it probably could be changed, but to say "this movie has nothing to do with aliens" is just silly. There is soooo much evidence that places this film squarely in the 'Alien' universe.

Also also: I CANNOT EFFING WAIT 'TIL JUNE.

Edited by GrantleyBuffalo, 21 March 2012 - 08:30 AM.

[Chopsus]

GrantleyBuffalo, on 21 March 2012 - 08:27 AM, said:

Regarding Guy Pearce as Peter Weyland: the TED talk he gives is in 2023; the 'Prometheus Project' gets under way in 2073, according to the corporate timeline. So the Lance Henriksen/"Bishop" Weyland is most likely to still be a generation or two away.

Also: regarding the thread title... yeah, it probably could be changed, but to say "this movie has nothing to do with aliens" is just silly. There is soooo much evidence that places this film squarely in the 'Alien' universe.

Also also: I CANNOT EFFING WAIT 'TIL JUNE.

Marks question related to Charles Bishop Wayland being one of the central characters in AVP which was set in 2004 http://www.imdb.com/...370263/synopsis this predates Peter Wayland who gives the TED Talk in 2023.

My assumption has always been that Charles Bishop Wayland had been cloned from the 2004 one (as he dies in AVP) to appear "in the Flesh" in Aliens 3.  The other Bishops were all Androids.

One could say that AVP is a prequel to this prequel.

Edited by Chopsus, 21 March 2012 - 08:56 AM.

[GrantleyBuffalo]

Ah, I get it now. Cheers, Chops.

I haven't seen the AVP films, and didn't realise they were set in the 2000's.

Anyway... June, huh? Wish I had a hypersleep chamber...

[pbouzaid]

I wish I could order my IMAX tickets for this now   

It is coming to IMAX right?

[MarkTecher]

The extended cut of AVP on BD is way better than the TE cut of the film.  The films were a let down to ALIEN fans in many ways ((time line included) but still have a few points of interest, so worth a watch even if just a rental.  The 2nd film (directed by The Brothers Strauss) did the best it could to correct the errors of the first with a key point at the end of the film suggesting this is indeed headed with humans into space (Prometheus?) with the introduction of Ms Yutani.

Edited by MarkTecher, 21 March 2012 - 10:15 AM.

[Vieira4]

I'm fairly certain that Ridley Scott does not intend to accommodate any ideas inother than those in the original Alien film.  So anything from AVP films certainly won't have any credit here.  As a fan of Alien and Aliens I do not pay any attention to those films whatsoever.  I even read somewhere that Scott does not even agree with Jim Cameron's alien queen theory, so he certainly won't care about what happened in AVP.

Has anyone read the Weyland Industries timeline: https://www.weylandi....com/#/timeline

No mention of Charles Bishop Weyland anywhere.

[Chopsus]

Vieira4, on 21 March 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Has anyone read the Weyland Industries timeline: https://www.weylandi....com/#/timeline

No mention of Charles Bishop Weyland anywhere.

That might have something to do with the fact that it does not cover the time periods of AVP nor Ridley's own Alien for that matter which is where the "Bishop" Andriod is first introduced .... the Bishop (clone?) doesn't come into existance  until many decades beyond the timeline.


"Peter Weyland is born in Mumbai, India to an Oxford-educated Professor of Comparative Mythology and a self-taught engineer.
October 1, 1990"

the Self Taught engineer my well be a reference to Charles Bishop Weyland as I am pretty sure his is described simialrly in AVP (Self made millionare) and the timeline convieniently stops short of identyfying the begining of Wayland Industries.

Edited by Chopsus, 21 March 2012 - 01:38 PM.

[MarkTecher]

Vieira4, on 21 March 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

I'm fairly certain that Ridley Scott does not intend to accommodate any ideas inother than those in the original Alien film.  So anything from AVP films certainly won't have any credit here.  As a fan of Alien and Aliens I do not pay any attention to those films whatsoever.  I even read somewhere that Scott does not even agree with Jim Cameron's alien queen theory, so he certainly won't care about what happened in AVP.

In the deleted scenes of ALIEN (restored for Scott's Director's Cut) Ripley finds Dallas being consumed by the cocoon in some sort of cellular metamorphoses in which he would eventually become another "egg" containing a facehugger.  There is no "Queen" or egg laying creature in Scott's vision.

[MarkTecher]

Vieira4, on 21 March 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

I'm fairly certain that Ridley Scott does not intend to accommodate any ideas inother than those in the original Alien film.
Has anyone read the Weyland Industries timeline: https://www.weylandi....com/#/timeline

No mention of Charles Bishop Weyland anywhere.

No but this is interesting

Discovery of Archeron LV-426

EDIT: This is the name James Cameron give gave the planet for ALIENS.  It didn't have a name in the original ALIEN film.

Edited by MarkTecher, 21 March 2012 - 09:29 PM.

[yorac]

MarkTecher, on 21 March 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

No but this is interesting

Discovery of Archeron LV-426

This is the name James Cameron give the planet.  It didn't have a name in the original ALIEN film.

It is named in Aliens.................

[Chopsus]

yorac, on 21 March 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

It is named in Aliens.................

Funny Boy!

[SkItZo]

Chopsus, on 21 March 2012 - 06:56 AM, said:

Really?

I don't think Ridley Scott would set out to write a prequel to the movie that made his career and then produce something that fails to add to the cannon of the original series.
Reality is it would be easier for him to create another SF Thriller without the constraints of the Alien franchise, if that was his intent, so I think you are mistaken and have drawn the wrong conclusion.

Ok, to make it clear, Promethius IS NOT AN ALIEN PREQUEL. http://moviesblog.mt...x-studio-chief/
If you looked at the whole movie, 95 percent of it is entirely unto itself. Ridley said it right: If you're a fan and you look closely, you'll spot strands of DNA."

If i take a crap and write Weyland-Yutani on it, or make it horseshoe shaped, does that make it an alien prequel, or is it still a steaming pile of crap with aliens stuff written into it?

Don't get me wrong, i do think it COULD be a good movie, but why put aliens stuff into it if it has NOTHING to do with the aliens series (other than of course the Weyland-Yutani/horseshoe shaped ship) THAT is what has me pissed off.
The movie is its own thing, leave Alien/s the **** alone and stop trying to create hype by using Alien/s.
The fact that they have had to do this has made my enthusiasm for the movie PLUMMET. If they had left the alien "dna" out of it, then yeah, I would probably still be very interested in the movie.

P.S. Thread title needs changed.

Edited by SkItZo, 24 March 2012 - 02:08 AM.

[yorac]

SkItZo, on 24 March 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

Ok, to make it clear, Promethius IS NOT AN ALIEN PREQUEL. http://moviesblog.mt...x-studio-chief/
If you looked at the whole movie, 95 percent of it is entirely unto itself. Ridley said it right: If you're a fan and you look closely, you'll spot strands of DNA."

If i take a crap and write Weyland-Yutani on it, or make it horseshoe shaped, does that make it an alien prequel, or is it still a steaming pile of crap with aliens stuff written into it?

Don't get me wrong, i do think it COULD be a good movie, but why put aliens stuff into it if it has NOTHING to do with the aliens series (other than of course the Weyland-Yutani/horseshoe shaped ship) THAT is what has me pissed off.
The movie is its own thing, leave Alien/s the **** alone and stop trying to create hype by using Alien/s.
The fact that they have had to do this has made my enthusiasm for the movie PLUMMET. If they had left the alien "dna" out of it, then yeah, I would probably still be very interested in the movie.

P.S. Thread title needs changed.

and what else did you like about it................

[Chopsus]

SkItZo, on 24 March 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

Don't get me wrong, i do think it COULD be a good movie, but why put aliens stuff into it if it has NOTHING to do with the aliens series (other than of course the Weyland-Yutani/horseshoe shaped ship)

The ship of which you speak has nothing at all to do with Wayland Industries (or Yutani for that matter), which kind a goes to show how little you know about the Aliens Universe.

Would you be happier if we called it a Wayland Yutani prequel, because that is what it is ... I am not going to make spoilers here, but that quote about DNA is sooooo literally a description of WHY this movie IS an Alien(s) prequel. perhaps read up on Darwin's work a bit hey?

[BladeRnR]

SkItZo, on 24 March 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

Ok, to make it clear, Promethius IS NOT AN ALIEN PREQUEL. http://moviesblog.mt...x-studio-chief/
If you looked at the whole movie, 95 percent of it is entirely unto itself. Ridley said it right: If you're a fan and you look closely, you'll spot strands of DNA."

If i take a crap and write Weyland-Yutani on it, or make it horseshoe shaped, does that make it an alien prequel, or is it still a steaming pile of crap with aliens stuff written into it?

Don't get me wrong, i do think it COULD be a good movie, but why put aliens stuff into it if it has NOTHING to do with the aliens series (other than of course the Weyland-Yutani/horseshoe shaped ship) THAT is what has me pissed off.
The movie is its own thing, leave Alien/s the **** alone and stop trying to create hype by using Alien/s.
The fact that they have had to do this has made my enthusiasm for the movie PLUMMET. If they had left the alien "dna" out of it, then yeah, I would probably still be very interested in the movie.

P.S. Thread title needs changed.

You need to take a chill pill mate.

The thread was started back in January 2011 with what little information we (I) had at the time. The title cannot be altered despite the fact I still believe it to be applicable.

Chopsus is correct. The very fact Weyland/Yutani features so prominently and the presence of horseshoe Ship / Alien Navigator (For want of a better description) solidifies the Alien link. Add the Alien Eggs and the brief shot of an Alien crawling on the "Telescope" and it it's hard *not* to call this an Alien Prequel.

Whilst the movie may not be directly associated with the Alien series, Ridley Scott's motivation in creating this movie was to expand on that universe and offer explanations to questions that have yet to be answered.

No point in getting bent out of shape about it - take it for what it is. Alas, at this point, it is all pure speculation until we have seen it.

Blade