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#1 petetherock

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 11:56 AM

Now we are talking ...
Look at the parts ... :)

The real Queue for a solid BR player starts here...

http://www.oppodigit...blu-ray-bdp-95/

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High Fidelity Audio Performance:

    * SABRE32 Reference Audio DAC - The DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) is one of the most important components for digital audio playback. The SABRE32 Reference ES9018 from ESS Technology is the world’s best performing 32-bit audio DAC solution targeted for high-end consumer applications and professional studio equipment. With the ESS patented 32-bit Hyperstream™ DAC architecture and Time Domain Jitter Eliminator, the SABRE32 Reference DAC delivers an unprecedented DNR (Dynamic Range) of up to 135dB and THD+N (Total Harmonic Distortion plus Noise) of -120dB, the industry’s highest performance level that will satisfy even the most demanding audio enthusiast. The BDP-95 uses two ES9018 DAC chips - one for the 7.1-channel output, and another for the dedicated stereo output.
    * Toroidal Power Supply - Custom designed and built by Rotel, the toroidal power transformer offers superior inrush current and much lower exterior magnetic field over traditional laminated steel core transformers. The BDP-95's toroidal linear power supply provides a very clean and robust power source to the critical audio components.
    * Dedicated Stereo Output - The BDP-95 features a dedicated 2-channel analog output with specially optimized ES9018 DAC and output driving stages. Each output is driven by 4 DAC channels stacking together to achieve even greater audio performance.
    * XLR Balanced Stereo Output - The stereo output offers both XLR balanced and RCA single-ended connectors. The balanced output features a true differential signal path all the way from the DAC to the 3-pin XLR connector. By transmitting a pair of differential signals, the balanced output provides better common-mode noise rejection and improves signal quality.
    * 7.1-Channel Analog Output - Individual analog 7.1-channel surround outputs are ideal to connect to a 7.1-channel or 5.1-channel surround sound system. Powered by the ES9018 SABRE32 Reference DAC, the BDP-95 delivers an incredible and immersive multi-channel soundstage.
    * Digital Optical and Coaxial Outputs - For simple and easy connection to more traditional A/V receivers, the BDP-95 features both optical and coaxial outputs for digital audio.
    * Dolby® TrueHD - Dolby TrueHD delivers lossless studio master quality audio designed specifically for high definition entertainment.  The BDP-95 supports bit-stream output of Dolby TrueHD via its HDMI 1.4a output.  It can also internally decode Dolby TrueHD into LPCM and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals.  (Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus audio formats are also supported.).
    * DTS-HD Master Audio™ - DTS-HD Master Audio delivers an auditory experience that matches the lifelike images of high-definition video with up to 7.1 channels that are bit-for-bit identical to the studio master. The BDP-95 supports bit-stream output of DTS-HD Master Audio. It can also internally decode DTS-HD Master Audio and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals. (DTS-HD High Resolution Audio and DTS Digital Surround are also supported.)


Note - Although the BDP-95 shares the same playback platform as the BDP-93, it is designed from the ground up with a different chassis and many different components optimized for the analog audio performance. For this reason it is not possible to upgrade a BDP-93 to gain the BDP-95's enhanced audio performance by replacing parts.
Diversified Media Support:

    * Blu-ray Disc - The high definition Blu-ray Disc™ format provides pristine video and audio quality for your home entertainment.
    * Blu-ray 3D – Experience high definition in all new dimensions. The BDP-95 supports the new Blu-ray 3D specifications (3D television and glasses required).
    * Netflix Instant Streaming Ready - Instantly watch movies streamed to your TV via the internet when connected to the OPPO BDP-95. (Unlimited membership required. US only)
    * Blockbuster on Demand - The newest releases instantly from your couch! (Service available in the United States only)
    * BD-Live & BonusVIEW - The BDP-95 supports BD-Live™ (Profile 2.0) and contains all necessary hardware - audio/video decoder, Ethernet and wireless networking, and 1GB of internal storage - for BD-Live. It also supports BonusVIEW (Profile 1.1) enabling "picture-in-picture" and audio features for viewing director or actor commentary while the main movie is playing.
    * DVD-Audio - The BDP-95 plays DVD-Audio and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to play the DVD-Audio or the DVD-Video portion of the disc.
    * SACD - The BDP-95 plays Super Audio CD (SACD) and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to output the DSD (Direct Stream Digital) signal in its native format over HDMI or convert it into high resolution PCM.
    * Additional Disc & Media Formats - Additional disc and file formats, such as DVD, audio CD, HDCD, Kodak Picture CD, AVCHD, MP4, DivX, MKV, FLAC, WAV and other audio/video/picture files on recorded discs, USB or eSATA drives can be played back on the BDP-95.


#2 juddy

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:54 PM

View Postpetetherock, on Dec 20 2010, 12:56 PM, said:

Now we are talking ...
Look at the parts ... :)

The real Queue for a solid BR player starts here...

http://www.oppodigit...blu-ray-bdp-95/

Looks good! Might wait for this one to be released.

#3 Anden

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:54 PM

View Postpetetherock, on Dec 20 2010, 12:56 PM, said:

Now we are talking ...
Look at the parts ... :)

The real Queue for a solid BR player starts here...

http://www.oppodigit...blu-ray-bdp-95/


That's  one sexy lookin player, to wait or not to wait, take the plunge on the 93, decisions, decisions. :rolleyes:

#4 cwt

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 04:58 PM

View PostAnden, on Dec 20 2010, 04:54 PM, said:

That's  one sexy lookin player, to wait or not to wait, take the plunge on the 93, decisions, decisions. :rolleyes:
Nice to see the toroidal transformer ; only other ones around are the $$ marantz 9004 and pio 09  ;)  Very hard to resist if you like 2ch  :) The dacs have been upgraded from the 83se to the top of the line ess9018 and a lot of effort gone into the analog board ; weighs 5lb more than the 83 too ..  I might have to contact Joe Rasmussen to see whats on the cards  :huh:

#5 petetherock

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:00 PM

This is the one for any MO....

Wonder if we can get a unit which is code free for DVDs straight from Oppo USA...

Not waiting for the 93 anymore... I hope it is priced around the 83SE.

#6 pasadena

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:05 PM

I found out about the BDP-95 after adding my interest for the Oppo BDP-93 and to be honest, the 95 is exactly what I'd prefer. :)

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:27 PM

View Postcwt, on Dec 20 2010, 05:58 PM, said:

Nice to see the toroidal transformer ; only other ones around are the $$ marantz 9004 and pio 09  ;)  Very hard to resist if you like 2ch  :) The dacs have been upgraded from the 83se to the top of the line ess9018 and a lot of effort gone into the analog board ; weighs 5lb more than the 83 too ..  I might have to contact Joe Rasmussen to see whats on the cards  :huh:

great minds think alike, I was thinking transplant all the goodies from our JLTI's into the 95,  now that would be the ducks guts I reckon ;)

Edited by com5984, 20 December 2010 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:32 PM

View Postpetetherock, on Dec 20 2010, 03:00 PM, said:

Wonder if we can get a unit which is code free for DVDs straight from Oppo USA...
Wish it came region free for BD.... :( No chance of region free stock? Must be modded? :(

#9 sejanus

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:42 PM

guys does the extra audio circuits benefit the hdmi port, or is it only when hooking it up with the 7 analogue connectors?

#10 petetherock

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:51 PM

View Postsejanus, on Dec 20 2010, 03:42 PM, said:

guys does the extra audio circuits benefit the hdmi port, or is it only when hooking it up with the 7 analogue connectors?


Actually I want an unadulterated signal for HDMI...

The audio circuits usually work for the analogue outs, but when it is released and there is more info, then we can assess the audio quality.

Cheers.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:12 PM

Yes finally an oppo with decent power supply, and  that doesn't have to be modded, butchered to get a decent disc player over analog. Thank good ness they have done this one ground up sure looks the business !

Ps cwt gave us a head up on this one a while back with the oppo 95 for sale on music direct

http://www.musicdire...m/product/89632

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 04:15 AM

View Postcom5984, on Dec 20 2010, 06:27 PM, said:

great minds think alike, I was thinking transplant all the goodies from our JLTI's into the 95,  now that would be the ducks guts I reckon ;)
At this point Rob Ime happy I didnt get the xlr option on the stage 1 for obvious reasons  :)

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 07:45 AM

THis is the one I've neen waiting for.

I wonder if the 93 group buy will include 95's too?

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 08:11 AM

Great looking player. I will be looking at selling my BD-83 (modded by Merlin audio) and was going to get the 93 but the 95 looks very nice.

Edited by SimonNo10, 21 December 2010 - 08:13 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2010 - 08:22 AM

Would be great if they have improved the cheap flimsy loading tray, also address the heat problem and get rid of the fan altogether

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 08:28 AM

View PostSimonNo10, on Dec 21 2010, 09:11 AM, said:

Great looking player. I will be looking at selling my BD-83 (modded by Merlin audio) and was going to get the 93 but the 95 looks very nice.


I to am now considering the options on this.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 09:50 AM

View Postcraigandkim, on Dec 21 2010, 09:22 AM, said:

Would be great if they have improved the cheap flimsy loading tray, also address the heat problem and get rid of the fan altogether

The trays always been flimsy on the oppos usually don't even come out far enough. But what's the heat Problem ?

Most bd players have fans them, is the oppo fan loud ? Or does player get hot much in use. Fan wise Sony 5000es best have come across. Fan never comes on. Ps3 worst with fan drive noise that's pretty annoying

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:15 AM

These latest creations from Oppo all look very expensive to the average user, I hope they haven't completely abandoned their more affordable models, or at least, produce a less sophisticated machine for general use.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:21 AM

Looking at this with interest as I need to upgrade my BRP (Pana BD35) at some stage. When it loads a disc the mechanism is starting to make a horrible grating sound most of the time, just a for half a second or so but I know it's going to fail soon.
I'll be very interested to see how it compares to my ERC-1 (Emotiva CDP) for CD playback. The standard Oppo 83 was no where near as good AQ wise but this might be a good all in one solution and I think it might do the job in the AQ stakes.

Will it still best to run it through the 2ch PreAmp even with all the goodies in the 95?????

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:22 AM

Oppo is wising up.
You can walk into HN or many other stores and get a basic player from Sony which also does SACD for not a lot of $$.
Their Oppo BDP 80 failed.
Now they will use their brand name and make a premier at a very affordable price, and we are talking affordable relative to those Krells, Lexicons or even the Denons and Marantz models.

Will they release an Oppo "lite" again? I am not sure, but for now it will be the high ground...

View PostChicken Man, on Dec 21 2010, 08:15 AM, said:

These latest creations from Oppo all look very expensive to the average user, I hope they haven't completely abandoned their more affordable models, or at least, produce a less sophisticated machine for general use.

C.M  


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Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:30 AM

Well now this has thrown the cat among the pigeons. I was speaking with Ken from Merlin Audio just the other day and I mentioned that while the BDP-93 looked promising, FLAC support was a welcome addition, it seemed little more than an incremental improvement on my BDP-83 so unless once I saw it up and running it showed a marked improvement over the 83 I was quite happy to sit and wait for the next big thing.

So on that note, Oppo within days have released an initial spec sheet on the BDP-95. You have to say that on paper alone this looks like the player that people with the BDP-83 & BDP-83SE should be looking at with regards to upgrading. Get the price right and have it modded for region free playback and on paper at least the BDP-95 has reference player written all over it.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:40 AM

I'm thinking if you need a fan then there is a heat issue (which obviously is not dealt with by passive dissipation). I'm sure there are a few BD players without fans- Samsung, LG, toshiba.

I remember spearmint mentioning the 4010 fan noise, with the oppo you do notice when it turns on (especially during quiet passages). I dont recall the sony making that much noise at all.

If you're aiming at the audiophile end of the market with a product capable of great SN ratio's, enhanced analogue stages, latest DAC's, custom power supply etc, etc, its kind of ridiculous when a fan kicks in and destroys the sum of all these qualities.

Hence I'll think I'll stick to my DV-60 for music listening

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:50 AM

View Postcraigandkim, on Dec 21 2010, 08:52 AM, said:

Would be great if they ........ address the heat problem and get rid of the fan altogether

From what I have read, the bdp-93 does not have a fan, but the bdp-95 does.

I do not get any grief from the fan on my bdp-83, but it is located away from the viewing room.  The player can get hot, so I keep it clear of other electronic gear.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 11:51 AM

So it would seem that possibly its the Sabre chip in the 83SE and 95 that runs hot?

No fan on the BDP-80, 83 or 93.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 11:56 AM

Well I have the 83 Nuforce Edition sitting next to my seat in my HT room and I have no issues with noise or heat.