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[Quark]

If the player/mod kit was purchased before November 2011 the correct pro mod kit firmware is 1.0g.  Firmware 1.0h is for later pro mod kits - see here and click on the Pro Kit Support tab.

If you have a pre-November 2011 player, try loading the 1.0g firmware, clear persistent memory, do a hard power off (unplug from wall after shutting down) and let us know how you go.

[Fouler]

Great, thanks for the tips.

I bought the player from Amazon on 31 October last year, and got the mod from Gattiweb about a week later. So I'll go with the 1.0g and see how I go.

[zallapo]

Fouler, on 22 May 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

I've had my 93 with pro mod for a while now and have experience trouble free viewing til recently. My collection is mainly US based so I can't remember the exact time I had to switch to Region B, though I'm sure it did work late last year. Maybe it still does work...

Anyway about a month ago I put in a UK version of 'The Lincoln Lawyer'which is locked to B. Couldn't get it to work due to region locking. I redid the firmware of the Oppo and the pro mod and still nothing... Tried last night and failed again, then put in a copy of Henry of Navarre which according to Blu-ray.comis also Region B Locked and it worked.

I've googled Lincoln Lawyer blu-ray region issues and can't see anything.

Has anyone else had any other problems with the region lock issues not working like this?

I'm planning to do some more testing on other supposedly locked B movies tonight.

I've had the exact same problems with my Oppo 93, purchased last year from Gattiweb in November and running firmware 1.0h.
For some strange reason, the Pro Mod kit would cease to work after a few weeks, and get stuck on it's last changed Region. I've returned it TWICE to Gattiweb to get it fixed, and both times he has recognised the problem and reinstalled a new chip and upgraded the firmware for no extra charge. But once again a few weeks later, it ceased to change region again and is stuck on Region B.

I just gave up sending it back and forth, as I could not diagnose a pattern in the problem, so I bought a cheap Toshiba for my Region A player, and use my Oppo for everything Region B and region free. It sucks I know, but I hope u find a solution as I'm in the same bandwagon.

Alex

[Quark]

zallapo, on 23 May 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I've had the exact same problems with my Oppo 93, purchased last year from Gattiweb in November and running firmware 1.0h.
For some strange reason, the Pro Mod kit would cease to work after a few weeks, and get stuck on it's last changed Region. I've returned it TWICE to Gattiweb to get it fixed, and both times he has recognised the problem and reinstalled a new chip and upgraded the firmware for no extra charge. But once again a few weeks later, it ceased to change region again and is stuck on Region B.
Alex

I haven't previously heard of the US Oppos locking on region B when there's an issue with the mod kit (and if purchased in November, it's got to be the US model).  Given that November was the time the pro mod kits went through a change, it might be worth trying the 1.0g firmware and clearing persistent storage (it may be a later mod kit has been installed since, but it's worth a try).

Edited by Quark, 23 May 2012 - 10:23 PM.

[Fouler]

Quark, on 23 May 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

If you have a pre-November 2011 player, try loading the 1.0g firmware, clear persistent memory, do a hard power off (unplug from wall after shutting down) and let us know how you go.

Gave all the options a try and still locked to Region A.

What a bugger of a thing...

[Fouler]

zallapo, on 23 May 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I've had the exact same problems with my Oppo 93, purchased last year from Gattiweb in November and running firmware 1.0h.
For some strange reason, the Pro Mod kit would cease to work after a few weeks, and get stuck on it's last changed Region. I've returned it TWICE to Gattiweb to get it fixed, and both times he has recognised the problem and reinstalled a new chip and upgraded the firmware for no extra charge. But once again a few weeks later, it ceased to change region again and is stuck on Region B.

Will contact Gatti and see if anything else can be done. Have previously bought a BDP-83 mod from him which is still going strong in my second setup. Also have a region free Pana BD-35 that Gatti modded for me way back when, still functional as well.

I wouldn't fancy sending the whole 93 unit from Syd to Melb and back again.

zallapo, on 23 May 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I just gave up sending it back and forth, as I could not diagnose a pattern in the problem, so I bought a cheap Toshiba for my Region A player, and use my Oppo for everything Region B and region free. It sucks I know, but I hope u find a solution as I'm in the same bandwagon.

Could be what I do in reverse, a cheap local region B player for the handful of my discs that are locked to B, or possibly the old Pana BD-35.

[Quark]

Fouler, on 24 May 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

Gave all the options a try and still locked to Region A.

What a bugger of a thing...

That's a PITA!  Sounds like the mod is loose or faulty.

[David1]

I have the modded 93 from Merlin. I have not done the firmware upgrade as yet. I thought I read somewhere that if the unit is connected to internet via wifi then firmware upgrade via Network is not possible. Can someone please confirm or deny this?

[com5984]

It's possible, just not recommended to use wifi. If you can run a LAN cable or use usb drive much safer

[blairy]

zallapo, on 23 May 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I've had the exact same problems with my Oppo 93, purchased last year from Gattiweb in November and running firmware 1.0h.
For some strange reason, the Pro Mod kit would cease to work after a few weeks, and get stuck on it's last changed Region. I've returned it TWICE to Gattiweb to get it fixed, and both times he has recognised the problem and reinstalled a new chip and upgraded the firmware for no extra charge. But once again a few weeks later, it ceased to change region again and is stuck on Region B.

I just gave up sending it back and forth, as I could not diagnose a pattern in the problem, so I bought a cheap Toshiba for my Region A player, and use my Oppo for everything Region B and region free. It sucks I know, but I hope u find a solution as I'm in the same bandwagon.

Alex

Fouler, on 24 May 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

Gave all the options a try and still locked to Region A.

What a bugger of a thing...

I had a similar issue aeons ago with region locked discs.  Give this a try.

Turn on Oppo to Region B.  Insert your Region b disc.  You'll get the message wrong region. Do not eject disc yet.

Press STOP.  Now press STOP a second time.  Now eject disc...you might need to reboot player not sure, but reinsert disc and with luck your problem may be solved.

What (might) is happening is that Oppo is using it's disc memory to restart the disc from where you left off.  Where you left off, of course, is the wrong region message and it simply goes straight back to that.

Let us know how you go (and apologies for not remember this little quirk earlier).

blairy

[Quark]

blairy, on 26 May 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

I had a similar issue aeons ago with region locked discs.  Give this a try.

Turn on Oppo to Region B.  Insert your Region b disc.  You'll get the message wrong region. Do not eject disc yet.

Press STOP.  Now press STOP a second time.  Now eject disc...you might need to reboot player not sure, but reinsert disc and with luck your problem may be solved.

What (might) is happening is that Oppo is using it's disc memory to restart the disc from where you left off.  Where you left off, of course, is the wrong region message and it simply goes straight back to that.

Let us know how you go (and apologies for not remember this little quirk earlier).

blairy

If this works, then try clearing persistent memory, (sometimes a hard power off at the wall for a couple of minutes after shutting down seems to help) - that should fix it for good.

[raZorTT]

Hi everyone,

Is it possible to change the region of the Oppo using the serial connection?

I am using iRule to control the Oppo, but was hoping I could add a button for each region and manage to change it without powering down the player?

Cheers,
Simon

[blairy]

zallapo and fouler, did you manage to resolve RF mod issues?

blairy

[blairy]

raZorTT, on 27 May 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Hi everyone,

Is it possible to change the region of the Oppo using the serial connection?

I am using iRule to control the Oppo, but was hoping I could add a button for each region and manage to change it without powering down the player?

Cheers,
Simon

Guessing this depends on the RF mod you're using.

Presumably you can setup iRule to use whatever buttons your RF mod uses to change regions?

blairy

[blairy]

Recently had some issues with SACD's.

I'm setup so these (should) play MCH when SACD is inserted.  They're playing in stereo.  Stop disc, eject, reinsert and it plays in MCH.  Bit weird but not impossible.

Flagged to Oppo and they've asked for details of my AVR and also try this with HDMI 1 direct to AVR.

Did that and problem persists.  Then had a bit of a play around to see what is going on here.

As above, turn on Oppo, play SACD, Stereo not MCH.  Eject, reinsert and hey presto MCH.

Then tried turn on Oppo, play flac stereo file from attached storage and/or NAS, then insert SACD and I get (as I should) MCH.

As above but instead of flac file played a ripped BD file (attached USB HDD) with MCH surround sound; then played SACD and get MCH.

Then turned on Oppo and play m2ts file form NAS (DTS MA) and then insert SACD; stereo only no MCH.

Workaround is not difficult and I've reported findings to Oppo.

Anybody else having MCH issues with SACD?

blairy

[zallapo]

blairy, on 05 June 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

zallapo and fouler, did you manage to resolve RF mod issues?

blairy

Hey Blairy. Sorry, been so busy this past fortnight, haven't touched the Oppo in a while. Will give ur trick a try in the next couple of days, will get back to you, cheers Blairy.

[Benje]

blairy

I am having similar problems as well, also with an oppo 93 and denon 3808a connected via hdmi.

TV Screen says it is playing the 5.1 layer, but the denon on-screen display and my ears tell me that it is stereo.

I can 'tweak' it back to mch, but it involves a bit of work - haven't worked out what I do each time but I get there.  Will be interested to see what happens here.

Benje

[dea]

Benje, on 05 June 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

blairy

I am having similar problems as well, also with an oppo 93 and denon 3808a connected via hdmi.

TV Screen says it is playing the 5.1 layer, but the denon on-screen display and my ears tell me that it is stereo.

I can 'tweak' it back to mch, but it involves a bit of work - haven't worked out what I do each time but I get there.  Will be interested to see what happens here.

Benje

I have always had this problem with an Oppo 95 and Denon 3808.  I think the problem is in the Denon.  With the SACD playing and set to multichannel, it initially plays in stereo but turning on pure direct on the Denon and then switching it off again forces the Denon into the correct multichannel mode.  Always seems to work - no idea why

[Benje]

dea, blairy

yes, I have 'thought' that the problem lies with the denon, somehow.  I will see if my RF remote has a pure direct button for on/off (so my wife can do it).  I reckon I can do this simply from my laptop with denon control (I can't use the denon remote, as I don't have line of sight to the denon receiver which is in another room). The frustrating thing is if I go into the denon menu system, and the denon thinks it is stereo, I can't select multichannel output.  If the denon thinks you have a stereo output, you are stuck until you can convince the denon otherwise.  I haven't had any success with changing the oppo output, so that says to me that the problem is in the denon.

And, the three people (so far) have all got a denon/oppo combination.  No-one seems to be having the problem with a different receiver brand.

However, I expect dea is having the issue with analogue connections with the denon (as he is using a 95, whereas I have a 93 via HDMI, which is what I think Blairy is using).  Is that right dea - analogue connection and problems, or is your issue only with hdmi as well?

Benje

[blairy]

The work around I've been using is stop disc (some need you to press stop twice) eject disc, put disc back in and hey presto, it's multi channel.

Interesting that we're all using the Denon 3808 and have this problem though.

blairy

[dea]

Benje, on 06 June 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

dea, blairy

yes, I have 'thought' that the problem lies with the denon, somehow.  I will see if my RF remote has a pure direct button for on/off (so my wife can do it).  I reckon I can do this simply from my laptop with denon control (I can't use the denon remote, as I don't have line of sight to the denon receiver which is in another room). The frustrating thing is if I go into the denon menu system, and the denon thinks it is stereo, I can't select multichannel output.  If the denon thinks you have a stereo output, you are stuck until you can convince the denon otherwise.  I haven't had any success with changing the oppo output, so that says to me that the problem is in the denon.

And, the three people (so far) have all got a denon/oppo combination.  No-one seems to be having the problem with a different receiver brand.

However, I expect dea is having the issue with analogue connections with the denon (as he is using a 95, whereas I have a 93 via HDMI, which is what I think Blairy is using).  Is that right dea - analogue connection and problems, or is your issue only with hdmi as well?

Benje

Hi Benje, Sorry should have said problem is only with HDMI connection, no problems with multichannel analog which incidentally sounds better, DACS in 3808 now a bit dated.  Have you tried multichannel analog from the Oppo 93 could be better than decoding in the Denon.  If you want the Oppo to do direct DSD conversion you must have (in the Oppo ) all speakers set to large, sub on and speaker distances equal otherwise it will convert DSD to PCM in order to do processing.

Edited by dea, 06 June 2012 - 03:34 PM.

[Benje]

well, there is some info for Blairy.  Only an issue on hdmi with an oppo 95, and my issue is with a 93 and hdmi into a denon 3808!

I can probably try the oppo 93 analogue now, as my surrounds are a fairly good match to my fronts, and the volume level of the sub is pretty well matched as well, and the frequency roll-offs of the 5 speakers are pretty good and similar.  I had some rears which were 5db louder than my fronts for a while.

I am sure some of my analogue stereo friends will have great fun telling me which system sounds better - analogue without adjustment or hdmi with the denon using audyssey.  I might have to get a series of 6 cables to do the connection.

Benje

[blairy]

Well thsi SACD MCH thing has been bugging me a bit.

Email to and fro with Oppo who have been quite helpful.  Plenty of suggestions, all to no avail (Connect this way and disconnect HDMI to TV blah blah blah).  Apparently they're testing this on a Denon AVR 2809ci and SACD MCH works just fine for them.

Obviously they're on the latest FW so I upgraded to that and still no go.  Recalling that I didn't have this issue when I furst ogt the player (December 2010) I've downgraded the FW to that released 17/12/2010.  And guess what?  SACD MCH works as it should.

Flagged to Oppo, so we'll see what comes of it.

Cheers
blairy

[Benje]

thanks Blairy - will be interesting to see why and wher this goes.  I see the thread on AVS.  At this stage, I am not considering firmware solutions - it dosn't bug me that much yet.

Benje

[Benje]

Blairy

I did a bit more 'testing' this morning on my OPPO 93/Denon 3808a with HDMI and SACD multi-channel.

I use a remote which switches a lot of gear on at once.  If I select Blu-Ray (OPPO) after I have already had the system on (eg to watch foxtel), then the OPPO will be performing a second handshake since turn on.  I don't get a problem then.

If I select the OPPO (blu-ray) as the first choice when I fire up the system, then I do get a problem.  If I just select the OPPO a second time whilst I have a problem, it forces a second handshake and the problem disappears.

Now, what is it that is playing when the problem occurs?  The vision  on screen says 5.1, but what I am hearing is left and right channel.  Note that I am not hearing the stereo track - I believe I am hearing the left front and right front of the multi-channel track.  I was playing Billy Joel's 52nd Street, which has quite a lot of the vocal in the centre channel.  I could hear very little vocal when the problem was occurring.

Switching between the stereo and multichannel options doesn't do anything, as the multi-channel reverts back to just the front left and front right of the MCH track.  Forcing a secondary HDMI handshake clears the problem.

Hope this helps.  I'll post this on AVS as well.

best

Benje