frozenpod, on Dec 15 2010, 08:33 AM, said:
Marantz AV-7005 can be had for 2k now, surprisingly a while back when it probably was around the 3k5 mark the cost of the processor without the amps is more than the cost of the processor with the intergrated amps......
How about a better comparision though.
The A3000 is now $1900, from what I have read it is better than the UC-1 3D ready and doesn't have the bugs (or as many bugs). A3000 has heaps of power more than 99.9% of people will ever need and the internal amps sound better than the emotiva amps. If you really need more power to deal with dynamics ect you only need a 2ch amp to reduce the load and it will IMO be suitable for even the most demanding users.
So you could buy your UC-1 and add your 5ch amp which will cost you slightly more or buy the A3000, which offers a better result and offers you better value IMO.
PS IMO the idea of buying a processor and having separate power amps is exactly the direction I think we should be heading. Amps have roughly a 20 year life were as with the rate of development processors are unlikely to last more than 5 years before they are required to be updated. Thus in the long run the UC-1 would be cheaper and better value than the A3000 but not from the initial purchase point of view.
Haha I was only mucking around with the porsche and bottle of wine jokes. Sorry if offended, was only giving that fire a poke:)
Anyway this will now do me.
In one breath you are saying 'The problem with reviews, manufactures claims and internet BS is the truth is often lost tyres and audio gear suffer the exact same fait in this regard time and time again.'
In the next breath above you are saying ' from what I have read it is better than the UC-1
(UMC-1)?? Was this your much hated reviews or maybe perhaps that 'internet bs' or actual experience with them??
'So you could buy your UC-1 and add your 5ch amp which will cost you slightly more or buy the A3000, which offers a better result
and offers you better value IMO.[/i]' But haven't you only read about the UMC-1, or have you now heard it as well???
Can you please clarify one last thing. Have you heard all of emotiva's amps including their mono blocks, one of their two channel setups with the USP-1 preamp or for that matter the UMC-1, ERC-1 cd player etc etc etc
Have you compared the UMC-1 and five channel amp you mention with the A3000?.
Or is YOUR opinion purely based on one single amp you heard (in still undisclosed setup), and what you have read on the internet? Is this how you have reached you opinion on the entire emotiva brand?
If correct are you
not going against everything you have been preaching here?
Look everyone trust your own ears and experience (and probably the opinion of people that own the equipment if anything, over what others have 'read' on the internet or speculatation).
In the end it is not a huge gamble if you do decide to go the Emotiva way, and this gear if it appears on ebay or audiogon sells very quickly. Can't imagine it would be hard to shift if you dislike. How do I know? I took that gamble, and
have closely watched ebay and audiogon in case some even bigger Emotiva bargains appear for sale that I could grab. What small amount does sells very quickly indeed. None of my gear will be appearing forsale, well atleast until I get the
upgrade bug again. Maybe the new Emotiva XMC-1 processor-
Also this is not a new company, but one that has been in business for many years, and stands by their products in my experience. As another bonus the 40% processor upgrade bonus certificate hammers home the value even more.
Anyway why listen to me or anyone else posting here really, only individual opinions. Plenty of info as stated already exists in the emotiva owners thread here on dtv, and also elsewhere on the net, for those that do want to do some research
beforehand.. Most importantly trust your own ears and experience, all the specs, thd levels, dollars mean nothing if you are not happy with something.
As I have said I do not agree with the criticism in regards to sound quality. In fact I feel very much the other way. Also the question on whether it is junk in a fancy box has already been done to death. This is just my humble opinion after
owning this gear. I'm not one to blindly follow brands if they don't meet my expectations, or to justify what I have bought. I have owned many different audio brands over the years. Things that I didn't like I sold fairly quickly. Of course I
am speaking from a purely amateur enthusiasts experience. I do not have an engineering background, or access to $90,000 testing equipment. (joking...lol..imagine me trying to drive that-
just some amateur ears to guide me.....
In the end each to their own, and if this is seen as 'pathetic' so be it, just my humble take on it.
Edited by wilsact, 15 December 2010 - 11:37 AM.