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[flukeyluke]

If they are on Foxtel I will always watch them, but I dont know if they warrant a purchase.
I have seen them so many times I dont suspect I would ever pull them out for a special screening.

[everunman]

Lethal weapon 3 and 4 are available now, seen them on ebay (aussie sellers)

[Villan_]

Damn it.  I wondered why ours was cheaper.  Looks like we don't get the 5th disc.

Anyone confirm if we are missing out on the fifth disc?

[yorac]

Are these remasters........



Well, I'll tell you what. You make it through tomorrow without killing anybody, especially me, or yourself, then I'll start trusting you.

[everunman]

I received my 3 & 4 today, the PQ looks awesome just flicking through, great if your a fan like me

[709er]

everunman, on Nov 15 2010, 12:38 PM, said:

I received my 3 & 4 today, the PQ looks awesome just flicking through, great if your a fan like me

That's great news. We loved all 4.
I'm still interested in hearing any news on whether the Aus box set has the 5th "bonus" disc!
I ordered from the UK which apparently includes it, but the Aus set is cheaper  

[IanD]

709er, on Nov 15 2010, 10:06 AM, said:

I'm still interested in hearing any news on whether the Aus box set has the 5th "bonus" disc!

According to EzyDVD, it is a 4 disc set.

[709er]

IanD, on Nov 15 2010, 02:06 PM, said:

According to EzyDVD, it is a 4 disc set.

Yes, I noticed that, but I treat all the online Aus site's spec details with "a grain of salt"  

[mgoldsmith]

yorac, on Nov 14 2010, 10:56 AM, said:

Are these remasters........



Well, I'll tell you what. You make it through tomorrow without killing anybody, especially me, or yourself, then I'll start trusting you.

Doesn't look like it, at least not for 1 and 2, which the specs show as being the older "dolby digital 5.1" versions with basic extras.  3 & 4 are more tricked out with DTS-MA and commentaries, etc.

..and it's a 4 disc set (slimline + slipcase)

Edited by mgoldsmith, 16 November 2010 - 01:01 PM.

[XxDeadlyxX]

mgoldsmith, on Nov 16 2010, 02:00 PM, said:

Doesn't look like it, at least not for 1 and 2, which the specs show as being the older "dolby digital 5.1" versions with basic extras.  3 & 4 are more tricked out with DTS-MA and commentaries, etc.

..and it's a 4 disc set (slimline + slipcase)

Oh, so the UK version is better, which has the new transfers for 1 & 2?

I find it hard to believe they would slap the old discs for 1 & 2 in the AU version of this set, when the UK version definitely has new transfers for both.

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 16 November 2010 - 02:12 PM.

[IanD]

According to a reviewer on Amazon UK, 1-3 are the Theatrical versions (with the Directors Cut edits included separately as deleted scenes) and 4 is the Directors Cut.  Movies 2 and 4 are now Uncut.

I'm really confused, because weren't the original Aussie releases of movies 1 and 2 Directors Cuts, so the UK versions are actually going backwards even though they may be remastered?  It's gonna be a tough choice then:  remastered or Directors Cut (integrated).

It will really annoy me if the UK Directors Cut scenes really are included as extras and not integrated into the movie as an option:  haven't they heard of seamless branching?

Edited by IanD, 16 November 2010 - 06:38 PM.

[andys]

IanD, on Nov 16 2010, 06:23 PM, said:

According to a reviewer on Amazon UK, 1-3 are the Theatrical versions (with the Directors Cut edits included separately as deleted scenes) and 4 is the Directors Cut.  Movies 2 and 4 are now Uncut.

I'm really confused, because weren't the original Aussie releases of movies 1 and 2 Directors Cuts, so the UK versions are actually going backwards even though they may be remastered?  It's gonna be a tough choice then:  remastered or Directors Cut (integrated).

It will really annoy me if the UK Directors Cut scenes really are included as extras and not integrated into the movie as an option:  haven't they heard of seamless branching?

I've got the original AU release of 1 & 2 (still sealed!) and I can't see any mention of Director's Cut. (Doesn't mean they're not though). They run 110mins & 114mins respectively. Hope that helps.

If I had to choose, I would take a remastered version. I've seen too many upconverts (particularly from Warner) that were simply not worth the money.

Andys.

[IanD]

andys, on Nov 16 2010, 04:45 PM, said:

I've got the original AU release of 1 & 2 (still sealed!) and I can't see any mention of Director's Cut. (Doesn't mean they're not though). They run 110mins & 114mins respectively.

According to IMDB:

LW1 = 110 min (117 min Directors Cut)
LW2 = 114 min (118 min Directors Cut)
LW3 = 118 min (121 min Directors Cut)
LW4 = 127 min

I was sure that I had seen LW1 and LW2 with Directors Cut on the cover, more recently, but I must be mistaken.

Were they re-released in different versions on Bluray (before the latest 4-pack)?

The most frustrating thing is that the studios aren't putting accurate and detailed info on the cover art for many titles, so it's next to impossible deciding whether a product is satisfactory to purchase.

[IanD]

Lethal Weapon 1-4 (5 disc set) from Amazon UK has now reduced to £29.47 (£25.08 ex-VAT).

I hate it when they lower the price shortly after release:  doesn't give the consumer any incentive to pre-order.

I inspected the stand-alone copy of LW1 at JB and there is no mention of Director's Cut on the cover.  The runtime is 110 min, so basically the Theatrical edition, however there are "additional scenes" mentioned which I assume are separate deleted scenes.

I realise now why I thought these might be Director's Cuts, with the additional scenes integrated into the movie, because JB online states:

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LETHAL WEAPON : DIRECTOR'S CUT (BLU-RAY)

With over seven minutes of previously unavailable scenes, the director's cut of Lethal Weapon is a long-overdue present for fans. Riggs' solitary home life and the tragic loss spurring him in a reckless disregard for his own safety now come into greater focus. We see that recklessness is new scenes underlining the differences between the two cops. Murtaugh, just 50, needs reassurance about his skills at a firing range. Riggs, not caring if he sees another birthday, coolly walks into a schoolyard sniper's field of fire. All the humor and adrenaline that made this original an entertainment milestone are here, too. No scenes have been removed. But new action and new insight are now included. Include yourself in the excitement.

Either JB think that separate additional scenes constitute a Director's Cut of a movie, or else the packaging is incorrect and the previous versions were actually Director's Cuts.

JB have just responded to an email I sent about the "Director's Cut" stated on their website:

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The item we have listed on our website has been identified from our supplier as the Director's Cut.

About as useful as tits on a bull.

The DVD shows Director's Cut on the cover, so maybe this is the good old BD/DVD confusion.

Edited by IanD, 18 November 2010 - 05:05 PM.

[gunner9]

Supposedly the UK boxset features DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtracks for all 4 movies unlike the Australian release.  Just waiting for confirmation of this before ordering from Amazon UK.

Really disappointed to see that Warners have shafted Australia/NZ with a product that is markedly inferior to what we can get from the UK.

[IanD]

gunner9, on Nov 18 2010, 12:30 PM, said:

Really disappointed to see that Warners have shafted Australia/NZ with a product that is markedly inferior to what we can get from the UK.

And everyone is shafted by not receiving both Theatrical and Director's Cuts via seamless branching.

I have a pending order for the UK boxset, but I'm considering canceling as I don't think they have released definitive versions yet and I'm getting real tired of half-arsed efforts and multiple dips by the studios, still at fairly high release prices.  Neither LOTR, BTTF, Predator(s), LW(s), etc have been done justice recently.

Edited by IanD, 18 November 2010 - 05:12 PM.

[Villan_]

IanD, on Nov 18 2010, 05:08 PM, said:

And everyone is shafted by not receiving both Theatrical and Director's Cuts via seamless branching.

It'd be nice to have the extended cuts done that way but it's not a deal-breaker for me.  If they were actual true "Director's Cuts" I'd be willing to wait, but I'm not a fan of these studio made "extended cuts we call director's cuts".

Definitely going to import the UK set.

[mgoldsmith]

IanD, on Nov 18 2010, 01:33 PM, said:

I inspected the stand-alone copy of LW1 at JB and there is no mention of Director's Cut on the cover.  The runtime is 110 min, so basically the Theatrical edition, however there are "additional scenes" mentioned which I assume are separate deleted scenes.

I realise now why I thought these might be Director's Cuts, with the additional scenes integrated into the movie, because JB online states:


Either JB think that separate additional scenes constitute a Director's Cut of a movie, or else the packaging is incorrect and the previous versions were actually Director's Cuts.

JB have just responded to an email I sent about the "Director's Cut" stated on their website:



About as useful as tits on a bull.

The DVD shows Director's Cut on the cover, so maybe this is the good old BD/DVD confusion.

The WB retailer site currently shows the incorrect information (i've just emailed them to let them know)... so JB are simply using what they are supplied with.  Of course, that doesn't excuse taking such a lazy position, seeing as past examples have shown that many-a-distributor simply copy/paste info between the various DVD releases, as well as to BD ...  so they should be use to occasionally double checking this stuff when someone questions it.... i know i do...

Edited by mgoldsmith, 19 November 2010 - 11:31 AM.

[Ralfi]

IanD, on Nov 17 2010, 01:22 AM, said:

According to IMDB:

LW1 = 110 min (117 min Directors Cut)
LW2 = 114 min (118 min Directors Cut)
LW3 = 118 min (121 min Directors Cut)
LW4 = 127 min

I was sure that I had seen LW1 and LW2 with Directors Cut on the cover, more recently, but I must be mistaken.

Were they re-released in different versions on Bluray (before the latest 4-pack)?

The most frustrating thing is that the studios aren't putting accurate and detailed info on the cover art for many titles, so it's next to impossible deciding whether a product is satisfactory to purchase.

When you're sure of the errors, add them to the thread in my sig, IanD. Hopefully that'll save others headaches before buying..

[709er]

After reading the LW box set thread on bluray.com, It would appear that the UK set has all 4 films in DTS HDMA! One poster states that 1 & 2 are remastered and that 2 and 4 are uncut.
My UK set should arrive this week, so I'll post some info anon.

[gunner9]

A poster on blu ray.com  has confirmed that the Australasian release of this box set contains   unremastered versiosn of Lethall Weapon 1 and 2 which both come with only DD 5.1 soundtracks.  Lethal Weapon 3 and 4 come with DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtracks.    Inexcusable from Warner Brothers!

A definite purchase from the UK for me now.  All 4 movies remastered and all come with DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtracks.

[IanD]

gunner9, on Nov 22 2010, 05:24 AM, said:

All 4 movies remastered and all come with DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtracks.

A no-brainer, now that it seems Aussie LW1 and LW2 aren't Director's Cuts anyway ("Directors Cuts" are just deleted scenes).

[709er]

gunner9, on Nov 22 2010, 08:24 AM, said:

A poster on blu ray.com  has confirmed that the Australasian release of this box set contains   unremastered versiosn of Lethall Weapon 1 and 2 which both come with only DD 5.1 soundtracks.  Lethal Weapon 3 and 4 come with DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtracks.    Inexcusable from Warner Brothers!

A definite purchase from the UK for me now.  All 4 movies remastered and all come with DTS HD MA 5.1 soundtracks.

A "user" review (for the UK set) is up on bluray.com and gives the PQ for 1,2 and 4, the big thumbs down!

[XxDeadlyxX]

709er, on Nov 22 2010, 02:31 PM, said:

A "user" review (for the UK set) is up on bluray.com and gives the PQ for 1,2 and 4, the big thumbs down!

Yeh but the initial release of LW2 had terrible aliasing, the new one in the UK set has a much better transfer in comparison.

[Ryan]

Where's the review??? Sorry i cant find it