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[Tassie Devil]

alanh, on Apr 23 2011, 10:23 PM, said:

Tassie Devil
I am not in my seventies or even older like you. I am not retired.

I am only quoting what the DBCDE and the ACMA are saying. WA VAST has not started like SMacca has been saying. He is watching unencrypted transmitter feeds. As you are aware VAST is an encrypted system in which an authorisation key is required from the broadcasters to unlock it. See the my latest post from Optus about receivers of VAST. It also states it for Eastern and Central Australia. As I said to you you will not get authorisation for VAST until the beginning of 2013 because you are in the licence are for Mt Barrow. in Get the best reception - Regional Tasmania has a link to the map showing the areas of Tasmania who can get authorisation now. You may not agree with it or the reasons but it is true. So for blackspots in regional WA authorisation will not be activated until the beginning of the second half of 3013.

As you have found out in line with the post I put up earlier the rules are that in licence areas which already have commercial DTV with analog, you cannot get authorisation for blackspots until 6 months prior to the analog switch off. This also applies in WA.

Since the start date on the Digital Ready website now says early 2011 and now last half of 2011 there is no guarantee it won't slide again. As I have pointed out the transmitter installation teams are busy in other parts of Australia. The commercial stations in regional WA only have one high powered digital transmitter. This was installed when WIN TV started when they were faced with a choice, buy an expensive high powered analog transmitter for a few years use to have to replace it with a digital one. Instead they bought a digital one and used STBs and low powered transmitters in the towns in the coverage area.

If you look at the Regional WA geographic forum. There has been a huge number of promises for a start date none of which have been honoured. The Bunbury transmitter covers a population of Hobart and is yet to get any commercial DTV. There is only 2 analog broadcasters.  How long has Hobart had DTV is it 10 years at least?

The Minister must have told GWN/WIN that they had to start DTV terrestrial broadcasting so they did it in the cheapest possible way. They used the only high powered commercial transmitter and the rest are very low powered. So they have not installed any high powered transmitters in Bunbury and Mt Barker and medium power at Geraldton and Wagin. The rest of their network are either low powered or very low powered.

AlanH

Thanks for the response Alan.  Unfortunately it was very political in the sense you avoided answering my questions so I will reframe others:

1. Why do you defend the present VAST setup when the rest of us do not like it?
2. If you are not retired, who do you presently work for, or, if you would be embarrassed by this, tell us what in particular you do for your present employer - that would assist us to understand your viewpoints?
3. What connection/interest, financial or otherwise, do you have with the introduction of VAST?  I ask this because you appear to defend the commercial interests profiting from VAST.

In some areas you seem well informed but in others your responses appear incorrect and confusing.  I remain perplexed why you deem to set yourself up as an authority yet your information is not always authoritative.  Some cleared explanation would be appreciated so I can put more value into your contributions.  They appear to be well meaning but often seem misleading.
John

[DrP]

I think you'll find that such information is covered by an NDA... that has such a wide scope that it even prevents alanh from naming publicly available industry journals.  

[alanh]

"To aid installers and or viewers Optus has set up an unencrypted info channel on the VASTTM platform (Channel 800) such that the STB will receive this channel only, prior to activating the smart card. This channel is signaled as the landing channel for the STB. This will verifythe RF signal path to the STB is setup correctly." Optus Specification However it must be on an approved channel.
For Eastern and Central Australia, from the Optus specification
"The hard coded transponders are to be:-
Transponder Downlink Frequency (MHz)
i C1 T2 12367.00
ii C1 T4 12447.00
iii C1 T5 12487.00
iv C1 T7
(Home transponder)
12567.00
v C1 T8 12607.00
vi C1 T9 12647.00
vii D3 T1 11720.50"

So MTV, VAST boxes can decode unencrypted signals, however their preset tuning prevents them from checking other broadcasters. Most transmitter feeds in Eastern Australia are either Fibreoptic or microwave except the ABC/SBS because of the number of individual feeds required.

Davmel,
So much for drivel. If quoting the rules from the regulators prevents a consumer buying a box which is not enabled when the real VAST starts then I have achieved my airm. There is a WA poster who wants to buy a VAST box and is being told by retailers that he can buy one now. He is not in the remote licence area. He lives in an area which is rapidly growning. So when DVB-T comes to his area, it may well be that a DVB-T translator is installed. If that is the case he has done his money.

The main aim of the signals we are discussing is to feed these 5 transmitters. Their location makes a satellite feed the only economic option. As you point out encryption is likely because it will prevent anyone in Australia watching and then being switched off when the real VAST starts.

AlanH

[DrP]

Ah yes, the tuning channel.  Of course that has nothing to do with the claims you've made nor does it diminish how reality tends to disagree with you.

It really doesn't matter how much you wriggle and try to worm your way out of it alanh, the VAST WA service is coming to life on the C1/D3 platform and people can purchase a VAST receiver and have it activated to receive them.  Three commercial channels are available on it.  They are not unencrypted transmitted feeds.  They are not on D1.  They are not terrestrial re-transmission feeds.  Only duly authorised VAST receivers can view them.

Is this another case of your continuing to embarass yourself until you finally fall silent on the topic and slink off to troll elsewhere ala RED and Spirit 'radio' services?  I think so.

[vk6xlr]

DrP, on Apr 24 2011, 11:43 AM, said:

Is this another case of your continuing to embarass yourself until you finally fall silent on the topic and slink off to troll elsewhere ala RED and Spirit 'radio' services?  I think so.

Well said DrP!!!  

[DrP]

Moderators: Yes, that's right.  Once again I am complaining about the utter tosh that this clown posts.  Is anything ever going to be done about it or is he simply going to be allowed to continue to pollute the forum?

[davmel]

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 01:25 PM, said:

"To aid installers and or viewers Optus has set up an unencrypted info channel on the VASTTM platform (Channel 800) such that the STB will receive this channel only, prior to activating the smart card. This channel is signaled as the landing channel for the STB. This will verifythe RF signal path to the STB is setup correctly."

The UNENCRYPTED info channel on Optus C1 transponder 12447V (PID 0801) has been there for nearly 9 months. The only other VAST channel that is unencrypted is ABC3 SE. The WA commerical channels are encrypted and have been for the past 6 months they have been on the VAST platform (except for a few hours of testing several months ago where they were briefly lacking encryption).
So there is no way that someone can be viewing UNENCRYPTED WA commercial channels presently as you have incorrectly claimed so far.

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Davmel,
So much for drivel.

The only drivel is from your blatently false posts time and time again and after having the facts pointed out you arrogantly refuse to admit you were wrong.

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There is a WA poster who wants to buy a VAST box and is being told by retailers that he can buy one now. He is not in the remote licence area. He lives in an area which is rapidly growning. So when DVB-T comes to his area, it may well be that a DVB-T translator is installed. If that is the case he has done his money.

He hasn't done his money. He has a VAST box and it has been activated since he has met the requirements for the service to be activated.

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The main aim of the signals we are discussing is to feed these 5 transmitters. Their location makes a satellite feed the only economic option. As you point out encryption is likely because it will prevent anyone in Australia watching and then being switched off when the real VAST starts.

VAST started in the middle of last year you moron. Eligible WA viewers are now being activated to view the encrypted VAST WA commercial channels. The VAST platform has a dual purpose in WA and that is to provide feeds to remote transmitters in addition to providing DTH service to eligible viewers.

[mtv]

mtv, on Apr 24 2011, 12:34 AM, said:

If AnalH actually had a VAST box, or even understood how tight the encryption is and the limitations of what can be received with it, he should know you can't receive anything other than VAST transmissions with it, whether they are unencrypted or not.

The UEC VAST box is not capable of receiving and displaying transmitter feeds... only direct-to-home VAST services for which the VAST smartcard has been authorised to decode.... FACT!!!

Seeing is believing (for most people) in the real world, a world which AnalH refuses to visit.

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 01:25 PM, said:

So MTV, VAST boxes can decode unencrypted signals, however their preset tuning prevents them from checking other broadcasters. AlanH

Ummm..... what part of my post didn't you understand?

Oh yes... the beginning, the end, and the part in the middle it seems.

Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough yet?

All you do is argue against what is proven by many as being fact.

Your posts do nothing but incite arguments and general disruption to these forums.

Why do the moderators on this site permit this AlanH troll to continue?

[Smacca]

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 11:25 AM, said:

vii D3 T1 11720.50"

Why highlight this? It has no significance at all.

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 11:25 AM, said:

So MTV, VAST boxes can decode unencrypted signals, however their preset tuning prevents them from checking other broadcasters.

But you insisted I was using "unencrypted transmitter feeds" to watch GWN, WIN and Ten West through my VAST box. Are you now admitting that wasn't the case, and that I and many others are watching GWN, WIN and Ten West through Western VAST?

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 11:25 AM, said:

Davmel,
So much for drivel.

Daveml has done nothing more but provide the greater satellite community with accurate, inside information and has proven to all of us that his word is reliable. Drivel? You've got some bloody nerve, old timer.

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 11:25 AM, said:

If quoting the rules from the regulators prevents a consumer buying a box which is not enabled when the real VAST starts then I have achieved my airm. There is a WA poster who wants to buy a VAST box and is being told by retailers that he can buy one now. He is not in the remote licence area. He lives in an area which is rapidly growning. So when DVB-T comes to his area, it may well be that a DVB-T translator is installed. If that is the case he has done his money.

I love how deep down you still think I got authorised using my Kalgoorlie address. You bring up the fact I live in Kalgoorlie in every second post against me, and I know you're subtly doing the same thing here. I'll have you know that I have more than one house in WA, in terrestrial and non-terrestrial areas.

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 11:25 AM, said:

The main aim of the signals we are discussing is to feed these 5 transmitters.

No, that's what you're discussing. The signals on Optus C1 are not used for anything other than Western VAST at this stage. We all know they'll eventually be used for terrestrial sites in the future, but this is not the case right now, and it's certainly not how you have been understanding this. And like I said, you are more than welcome to contact GWN and confirm this.

And what's this 5th digital transmitter you're going on about? There's only 4 online now.

AlanH knows nothing.

Edited by Smacca, 24 April 2011 - 04:01 PM.

[beeblebrox]

Gee, this is almost a carbon copy of the fracas when VAST originally started.... he wasn't right then, don't know why you'd expect him to be right now... we should all know better by now!!

maybe we need to ask the moderators to include a "Preparation H" button for when we need to reply to analh's posts!!!  maybe we need something like http://entertainment...67558hntDBCvkjx

[alanh]

I seem to recall that nearly all the same posters her except one told me that they were not using DVB-S2 and MPEG-4 for the Eastern Vast.
AlanH

[alanh]

The person I was refering to does not yet have a VAST or Aurora Box.

Just because it's encrypted does not make it VAST as Foxtel etc will attest.

Secondly for WA to have VAST like the Eastern States it has not started yet and who knows when it will start given GWN/WIN's promises.

It is used to feed the 4 tiny transmitters as I mentioned. If they want to make it available to all in the remote licence area in a pseudo state they can but it is still not the same service as Eastern VAST. Its only the fact that the Department has called it VAST stage 1 and allows more than those 5 receivers to receive the signal that any of you can say such.

I seem to recall that nearly all the same posters her except one screamed at me that the new version of "Aurora" woiuld not be DVB-S2/MPEG-4. The went very quiet when it happened.

AlanH

[Osirus]

Vast encryption can only be decoded using a Vast Card ( & its matching STB)

The Vast Card also needs to be Activated for the Services You are entitled to have.....(or you get no pics from the encrypted channels)

If people are getting Pics on GWN7 & WIN & TEN WEST, as well as others on the Vast WA Bouquet,

while using a Vast Card & Vast STB (in 16:9).......they are Activated to recieve Vast WA Services....

it has also been stated that the other Vast WA channels will be added later.....

Whats the problem ?

Edited by Osirus, 24 April 2011 - 07:52 PM.

[davmel]

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 06:57 PM, said:

The person I was refering to does not yet have a VAST or Aurora Box.

That must be you then!

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Just because it's encrypted does not make it VAST as Foxtel etc will attest.

You truly are fricking clueless and keeping posting signs declaring yourself as the village idiot.

The 3 commercial WA channels on VAST (all using transponder 12367V) all have a SINGLE encryption CAID of 0636. This is the exclusive Irdeto CAID allocated to VAST.
Here is a list of CAID's used by the various pay tv services on Optus C1:
Aurora v1: CAID 0602
Aurora v2: CAID 0626
VAST: CAID 0636
Austar: CAID 0604
Foxtel blue card: CAID 090B
Foxtel orange card: CAID 096C

Aurora channels by comparison are dual simulcrypted with CAID 0602 & 0626. Austar/Foxtel channels are for the most part triple simulcrypted with CAID's 0604, 090B, 096C.
VAST however is ONLY encrypted for the VAST conditional access encryption and the only way to view it currently is with an authorised VAST smart card.

You could have easily discovered this by scanning and viewing all the PID's associated with each WA commercial VAST channel.

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Secondly for WA to have VAST like the Eastern States it has not started yet and who knows when it will start given GWN/WIN's promises.

Again with more incorrect statments.....
The 3 commercial WA VAST channels were active on the sat 6 months ago.
The Bouquet table showing ID 6 (West Australia) was active 8 months ago
The Service Descriptor Table had the following WA commercial VAST channel numbers added 5 months ago:
  502 TEN WEST
  602 GWN
  802 WIN

It's all there active and been waiting now for activations for quite some time. Now that activations have begun VAST has officially started for WA viewers.

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It is used to feed the 4 tiny transmitters as I mentioned. If they want to make it available to all in the remote licence area in a pseudo state they can but it is still not the same service as Eastern VAST. Its only the fact that the Department has called it VAST stage 1 and allows more than those 5 receivers to receive the signal that any of you can say such.

Not the same service?????? It's the same STB, same smart card, same transponders, same bouquet, same CAID, same network ID.

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I seem to recall that nearly all the same posters her except one screamed at me that the new version of "Aurora" woiuld not be DVB-S2/MPEG-4. The went very quiet when it happened.

I seem to recall you going quiet or changing topic every time your mountain of bullshit has been pointed out as incorrect.

[Smacca]

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 04:57 PM, said:

It is used to feed the 4 tiny transmitters as I mentioned.

Ok, just a simple question: What channels are you referring to here - the ones on C1 or D1?

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 04:57 PM, said:

If they want to make it available to all in the remote licence area in a pseudo state they can but it is still not the same service as Eastern VAST.
Its only the fact that the Department has called it VAST stage 1

Finally, you understand. No, it's not the same as Eastern VAST. But that doesn't change the fact I can now use an official VAST box and receive official WA commercial channels through it. Western VAST has now launched stage 1. That has been my argument this entire god-damned time. You were completely denying this, Alan.

One thing is for sure, which can be confirmed at any time by speaking to the gentlemen at GWN in charge of the rollout: There is not one site in Western Australia that uses the VAST signal as the transmitter feed. Not one.

[DrP]

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 06:56 PM, said:

I seem to recall that nearly all the same posters her except one told me that they were not using DVB-S2 and MPEG-4 for the Eastern Vast.
AlanH

Links to posts Mr Troll or it simply didn't happen.  If you do actually rake up the gall to post a link ensure that the linked post says what you claim it says, not some of your random imaginings.

Edited by DrP, 25 April 2011 - 06:12 AM.

[domi]

wahroonga farm, on Jul 4 2010, 10:39 AM, said:

Here are a couple of excerpts from the UEC 4121 VAST decoder owners manual.

Note: Viewer has posted the 'legal matters' info elsewhere.

It is a very great shame that the only choice for VAST customers ATM is a severely crippled and crude UEC tin box.

What UEC call Legal Matters.

And here is the 'generous' UEC Warranty.

Whilst UEC may be an obvious choice to some , it certainly isn't for me.

We are about to replace 1,000's of Aurora decoders in remote locations.

I'd like a customer responsive company supplying decoders.

I for one will be hanging off and will NOT be an early adopter ... this time.

Have spoke to the chap at Freeview and he told me that Hills (TV aerials) has been given the monopoly as the market is too small, so unfortunately for us, UEC is going to be the only co. making those tin boxes for us.

[MLXXX]

davmel, on Apr 24 2011, 04:48 AM, said:

alanh, on Apr 24 2011, 01:03 AM, said:

The signal containing GWN SD, WIN SD and TENWest is primary provided for the 5 transmitter sites in WA. These transmitters have only come on air because the DBCDE has said that the WA commercial stations had to start digital transmission. So they put one transmitter in each of the WA licence areas.

...

The commercial WA feeds are on Optus D1 (transponder 12424H etc). They are all ENCRYPTED.

The VAST WA channels (which have been operating for nearly 6 months now) are on Optus C1 transponder 12367V. They are also ENCRYPTED.
A VAST box can ONLY view the channels on the 6 VAST transponders of Optus C1, not D1 so please stop with the endless BULLSHIT!

If you at least once in your ignorant life ever bothered to use some sat hardware to scan and analyse the channels available you'll discover that the commercial WA channels operating on C1 12367V are indeed part of the VAST bouquet. They are not used as commercial feeds.

Yet another example, I see, of alanh displaying ignorance in the first instance; and then compounding the problem by refusing to take on board clarifying information, helpfully provided by other members of this forum.

Osirus, on Apr 24 2011, 07:48 PM, said:

Vast encryption can only be decoded using a Vast Card ( & its matching STB)

The Vast Card also needs to be Activated for the Services You are entitled to have.....(or you get no pics from the encrypted channels)

If people are getting Pics on GWN7 & WIN & TEN WEST, as well as others on the Vast WA Bouquet,

while using a Vast Card & Vast STB (in 16:9).......they are Activated to recieve Vast WA Services....

it has also been stated that the other Vast WA channels will be added later.....

Whats the problem ?

Yes it does seem straightforward.

However one problem is the gulf between:

• the capacity of viewers in capital cities and regional areas to record local terrestrial digital TV broadcasts at will, and play the content back whenever they wish, including skipping ads, using for example cheap PVRs, or cheap TV tuner cards in PCs; and,
  
• that which is currently available for viewers in remote areas hooking into VAST, who at this point in time are limited to purchasing specific hardware, with restricted or non-existent functionality relating to the recording and playing back of TV programs.

[MLXXX]

Smacca, on Apr 23 2011, 08:46 PM, said:

Alan,

You might be interested in the following video:

Smacca, I've never before seen a youtube video directed to a member of this forum!

Re the delay (towards the end of the video) in getting the SMART card to work after it was removed from the UEC box, perhaps the box doesn't respond well to a card change whilst the box is still turned on.  Just a thought.

[mtv]

MLXXX, on May 1 2011, 06:49 PM, said:

Re the delay (towards the end of the video) in getting the SMART card to work after it was removed from the UEC box, perhaps the box doesn't respond well to a card change whilst the box is still turned on. Just a thought.

I've tried this also, just to see what happens, which was the same as Smacca experienced.

As the card and box are 'married' there should be no need to remove the card.

If you power off the box, insert the card, then power up, it works fine.

It just doesn't like having the card removed/inserted whilst operating.

[Smacca]

MLXXX, on May 1 2011, 04:49 PM, said:

Smacca, I've never before seen a youtube video directed to a member of this forum!

There'd be no need for it if text was enough.

MLXXX, on May 1 2011, 04:49 PM, said:

Re the delay (towards the end of the video) in getting the SMART card to work after it was removed from the UEC box, perhaps the box doesn't respond well to a card change whilst the box is still turned on.  Just a thought.

Yeah, I figured the same. Although I've never had an issue with other boxes. I would've edited that entire shamozzle out of the final cut, but that would look suspicious to Mr Know-it-all.

mtv, on May 1 2011, 04:55 PM, said:

It just doesn't like having the card removed/inserted whilst operating.

I've seen the error randomly occur during operation on both of my boxes. I came home after a power outage and saw the error too. There's probably a bigger underlying problem here.

Edited by Smacca, 01 May 2011 - 07:00 PM.

[GoForMoe]

Statement from the minister:

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Regional QLD the next to switch to digital-only TV

The move to digital TV is gathering pace with the Gillard Government announcing a switchover date for regional Queensland, and the launch of free to air digital TV services by satellite to viewers in remote and regional Western Australia via the Government-funded View Access Satellite Television (VAST) service.

Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy, said 506,000 households in regional Queensland across the Wide Bay, Capricornia, Darling Downs, Central Coast and Whitsundays, North Queensland and Far North Queensland switchover regions would switch to digital only free-to-air television on 6 December 2011.

"More than four out of five households in regional Queensland have already converted to digital TV, according to the latest Digital Tracker survey to the end of March 2011," Senator Conroy said.

"Those households yet to make the switch to digital now have a deadline for when their analog TV signals will be switched off for good."

Senator Conroy said the switch to digital only television offers improved picture and sound quality and greater program choice with access to new digital channels.

"In the lead-up to the switchover date broadcasters are rolling out new digital TV transmitters to improve the quality of digital TV reception throughout the switchover regions," Senator Conroy said.

"This includes the upgrading of analog ‘self help’ transmitters to digital in several locations, and the installation of new ‘gap filler’ transmitters in other areas to provide better reception."

Senator Conroy said that households in regional Queensland that do not have adequate reception of terrestrial digital TV services in their area six months before the switchover – 6 June 2011 – will be able to access the government-funded VAST satellite service to receive the full suite of digital TV channels.

The Household Assistance Scheme will provide practical help to eligible households in regional Queensland to make the switch to digital TV through the supply and installation of a high definition set top box at no cost to eligible recipients. This includes households where a person receives the maximum rate of the Age Pension, Disability Support Pension, Carer Payment, Department of Veterans’ Affairs Service Pension or Income Support Supplement.

The Satellite Subsidy Scheme will be available to assist those regional Queensland households that previously relied on community-operated analog ‘self help’ transmitters for their analog TV and who will receive their digital TV from the VAST satellite service.

Senator Conroy said free to air digital TV channels were now available by satellite for viewers in regional and remote areas of Western Australia who cannot receive terrestrial digital TV.

An agreement between the Government and broadcasters WIN and Prime Television (under joint venture WA Satco Pty Ltd) will provide the VAST service to Western Australia.

All of the digital channels from the ABC and SBS are currently available on VAST nation-wide including ABC2, ABC3, ABC News 24, SBS TWO and SBS HD.

Under the first stage of the agreement, satellite viewers in WA will be able to receive the standard definition commercial channels from WIN, GWN and TEN.

Under stage two, from 30 July 2011, the VAST service will provide all nine standard definition and high definition commercial channels, including the digital-only channels such as ONE HD, Eleven, GO!, Gem, 7TWO and 7mate.

"This is an historic improvement in the quality and choice of free to air TV services for people in regional and remote Western Australia, who will for the first time have access to the same number of channels as is available in capital cities," Senator Conroy said.

VAST will be available to viewers in Western Australia who cannot receive terrestrial digital TV broadcasts, including those who currently rely on community operated ‘self help’ transmitters that are not being upgraded to digital as part of the switchover program and that cannot receive an adequate digital signal from another transmitter serving their area.

"From October 2012, the Government will provide a subsidy for approximately 32,000 households in Western Australia that currently rely on ‘self help’ towers for their TV to convert to the VAST satellite service," Senator Conroy said.

"The Government is also providing funding to regional commercial broadcasters to roll out the full suite of digital TV channels by terrestrial broadcast throughout regional and remote Western Australia.

"As a result, all households in regional and remote Western Australia will have access to the same number of digital TV channels as is available in Perth through the digital switchover program."

Senator Conroy said 79 per cent of households across Australia were now digital ready, according to the latest figures from the Digital Tracker survey for the first quarter of 2011.

"Whether by terrestrial or satellite broadcast, almost four out of five households across Australia has now made the switch to digital TV. This compares to less than half of households which were digital ready just two years ago," Senator Conroy said.

The Digital Tracker summary report for Quarter 1, 2011 is available from the Digital Ready website at www.digitalready.gov.au

http://www.minister....leases/2011/163

Now do you believe what the others have been telling you for weeks Alan?

[DrP]

Don't be silly GoForMoe, as we all know, government press releases simply don't cut it.  At least according to alanh (not forgetting that they can be magically raised to the status of a reliable source of information when it suits him).

Edited by DrP, 03 May 2011 - 12:05 PM.

[alanh]

Goeformoe,
Note the word now.
SMACCA has been going on about this last year which is not now. The 5 transmitters I mentioned went on air in the middle of last year.

The DBCDE has now decided to start the registration system for viewers in WA like they have been using in the Eastern States after an agreement with WA SatCo. The transmissions have been on air for the 5 transmitters last year. The Minginew transmitter is a typical self-help site with a tiny UHF transmitter of only 50 Werp. The only difference is who paid for it. 'The broadcaster who owns it will obviously been given a decryption key when they were not available to the public.

When I was posting, the registration system for WA had not started.

This commencement upsets the 200,000 people in the Bunbury area who are yet to get any digital commercial TV as they will not be registered. To add all programs to VAST now would not be cost effective for the broadcasters and would infuriate Bunbury viewers even more.

Conroy is obviously pressurising GWN and WIN to install more DTV terrestrial transmitters by making all programs available from 30 July 2011.

I agree that VAST stage 1 has now started and that it is not available where the viewer is not in the yellow area of the maps I refered to earlier. Other than Kalgoorlie, Central Agricultural, Karratha and Minginew WA country viewers are yet to get any commercial DTV.


AlanH

[Smacca]

alanh, on May 3 2011, 10:22 AM, said:

Goeformoe,

No one cares what you have to say anymore, Alan. You blew your chance to have an opinion on VAST or anything satellite related. Believe whatever you like, but keep it to yourself and away from this forum. There are people here much more qualified than you who can provide helpful, factual information about VAST to people who are seeking it.