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Adam Tensor Gamma's
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 08:38 PM
Hey mate how goes it.
Ive been giving Audyssey a go lately (you would be proud) and it does quite a good job. Excellent in fact in some circumstances. Will be doing more testing soon.
Ive been giving Audyssey a go lately (you would be proud) and it does quite a good job. Excellent in fact in some circumstances. Will be doing more testing soon.
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Spearmint, on Nov 21 2009, 07:02 PM, said:
I have to admit these speakers were very much a blind buy. I'd never seen this particular model in the flesh, let alone heard them, and the colour combination I finally chose was also a punt.
When Warwick and Phil turned up last weekend to deliver and install them, I think we were all eager to see what they looked like in the flesh. I personally like the combination, it looks simple with a touch of elegance. I was also concerned how the new speakers would look with my existing subs, but in fact, they look quite nice together, even my wife hasn't made any detrimental comments about the different finishes.
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The photo does not do justice to how the speakers or room look in the flesh, I'll try to take some better ones soon.
The build quality and finish of these speakers is marvellous, everything fits together with a jewellers precision by the looks of it.
We put the speakers right where my last ones sat (they are virtually the same height and depth as my other speakers, just a bit wider), the connections included the Behringer CX2310 crossover in circuit, plus my 2x 12” subs, then I sat back to listen. Straight out of the box they sounded fantastic, WOW I was so happy. I played a couple of tracks, which I have included on some of my demo disc's, these have shown up some not so nice traits on other speakers which I've both listened to, and auditioned. The Adams played them so well I couldn't keep the smile off my face, this was virtually straight out of the box, and at quite insane levels. I did apologise to both Warwick and Phil, and explained that I don't normally listen at those levels, but did want to make sure that the clarity I experienced at Mondie's did in-fact carry on down the chain to the Gamma's. I realise our systems are at the opposite ends of the price scale, but the results I'm getting at this stage, are making me very happy with the investment.
There have been comments that some have found the Adam range of speakers bright, I've not experienced this trait with the Gamma's in my room, in fact I'd say they were somewhat laid back in their presentation.
After the initial playing, Warwick suggested to move the speakers further apart, as he said the imaging on these speakers is great, and having some air between them will improve the sound stage in my room. So I let Warwick and Phil move the subs out of the way and reposition the speakers where the subs were, and the subs where the speakers were. The improvement was immediately noticeable, with more openness in the presentation. The sound stage was still quite shallow at this stage, Warwick did say the depth will come with a few hours up on the speakers, and he was right, by the time they left, the depth had improved and was almost back to 3D, by the early evening, it was back to being very deep and 3D again.
The sonic signature of the speakers, I feel, has remained constant throughout the first week, about the only noticeable change has been to the depth of the sound stage. You feel like you're encased in a bubble of sound at times.
On the back of the amps there are controls for adjusting the levels (basically to tailor the response for personal preference) of the tweeter, midrange, and woofers, plus a very basic EQ for the bass, and another control to adjust the input levels. Mine are all set to zero, with the EQ disabled. I've been listening this way all week, and so far have had no desire to change anything.
Warwick did mention to me before departing, that I should try the speakers full range, as he felt the bass was quite good from the Gamma's and well worth a shot. So yesterday I did exactly that, and ran the speakers full range. I was pleasantly surprised at how good the bass is. I listened again last night and made an executive decision that the speakers shall remain full range for the time being, and I'll relocate the subs to the back of the room and use them for HT duties. The speakers don't have anywhere the extension or output of the subs, but I feel they perform good enough for the moment with the music I enjoy listening to.
Enough of the ramblings, how do they perform?
In a word “Fantastic”, I'm so happy with the results, even straight out of the box, they put a smile on my dial.
They are an amazing speaker, with the Gamma's in my room, and in my seat, my ears are basically at the top level of the woofer with the midrange and tweeter above ear height. The speakers are approx. 2.7Mtrs apart and I'm sitting approx. 3Mtrs back. They sound very much like a single point source, being a 4way active speaker I cannot detect, or sense, any of the individual drivers, or even variances in the amps. According to Adam, the tweeter is driven by class A/B amp, with the other drivers being driven by digital amps.
Imaging is amazing, so is the sound stage. The airiness, and detail are first rate as is the clarity of both instruments and vocals. I find instruments have a good sense of naturalism about them, especially instruments such as piano's and double bass. Even symbols and hi-hats have clarity and detail, likewise violins sound good without being edgy or unpleasant (unless they were recorded that way, if you get my drift). The speakers, overall have a nice sense of attack, and decay, with plenty of detail in-between without having an in your face presentation.
So far, with the amount of hours I've spent listening to the speakers, the only change I've made, is to run them full range, and this was only because I wanted to see how the speakers performed. I've not felt the need to change anything with regards to their sound. I've played many of my CD's during the week, looking for something to make me cringe, but as yet the Adams have delivered a very nice sound and very pleasing to my ears.
The amazing depth, clarity and pin point accuracy of the the sound stage, the rock solid imaging, and the single point source sound, make for a wonderful listening experience. There is also plenty of height with their presentation. Listening to these speakers off axis is also a rewarding experience, so for me, and my casual listening of streamed audio, these certainly deliver. The speakers disappear and leave you with only the sound.
So in a nutshell, yes I'm very happy with the sound, I've not experienced any harshness, edginess, or listening fatigue, even from new out of the box. There is no need to play only quality recordings; yes these do highlight the good from the bad, but the bad are still very listenable, and above all enjoyable.
Thanks also to Phil and Warwick from the Pure Music Group for making it a pleasant buying experience, keeping me informed along the way as to the progress of the speakers, and for delivering and installing them for me.
When Warwick and Phil turned up last weekend to deliver and install them, I think we were all eager to see what they looked like in the flesh. I personally like the combination, it looks simple with a touch of elegance. I was also concerned how the new speakers would look with my existing subs, but in fact, they look quite nice together, even my wife hasn't made any detrimental comments about the different finishes.
Image
The photo does not do justice to how the speakers or room look in the flesh, I'll try to take some better ones soon.
The build quality and finish of these speakers is marvellous, everything fits together with a jewellers precision by the looks of it.
We put the speakers right where my last ones sat (they are virtually the same height and depth as my other speakers, just a bit wider), the connections included the Behringer CX2310 crossover in circuit, plus my 2x 12” subs, then I sat back to listen. Straight out of the box they sounded fantastic, WOW I was so happy. I played a couple of tracks, which I have included on some of my demo disc's, these have shown up some not so nice traits on other speakers which I've both listened to, and auditioned. The Adams played them so well I couldn't keep the smile off my face, this was virtually straight out of the box, and at quite insane levels. I did apologise to both Warwick and Phil, and explained that I don't normally listen at those levels, but did want to make sure that the clarity I experienced at Mondie's did in-fact carry on down the chain to the Gamma's. I realise our systems are at the opposite ends of the price scale, but the results I'm getting at this stage, are making me very happy with the investment.
There have been comments that some have found the Adam range of speakers bright, I've not experienced this trait with the Gamma's in my room, in fact I'd say they were somewhat laid back in their presentation.
After the initial playing, Warwick suggested to move the speakers further apart, as he said the imaging on these speakers is great, and having some air between them will improve the sound stage in my room. So I let Warwick and Phil move the subs out of the way and reposition the speakers where the subs were, and the subs where the speakers were. The improvement was immediately noticeable, with more openness in the presentation. The sound stage was still quite shallow at this stage, Warwick did say the depth will come with a few hours up on the speakers, and he was right, by the time they left, the depth had improved and was almost back to 3D, by the early evening, it was back to being very deep and 3D again.
The sonic signature of the speakers, I feel, has remained constant throughout the first week, about the only noticeable change has been to the depth of the sound stage. You feel like you're encased in a bubble of sound at times.
On the back of the amps there are controls for adjusting the levels (basically to tailor the response for personal preference) of the tweeter, midrange, and woofers, plus a very basic EQ for the bass, and another control to adjust the input levels. Mine are all set to zero, with the EQ disabled. I've been listening this way all week, and so far have had no desire to change anything.
Warwick did mention to me before departing, that I should try the speakers full range, as he felt the bass was quite good from the Gamma's and well worth a shot. So yesterday I did exactly that, and ran the speakers full range. I was pleasantly surprised at how good the bass is. I listened again last night and made an executive decision that the speakers shall remain full range for the time being, and I'll relocate the subs to the back of the room and use them for HT duties. The speakers don't have anywhere the extension or output of the subs, but I feel they perform good enough for the moment with the music I enjoy listening to.
Enough of the ramblings, how do they perform?
In a word “Fantastic”, I'm so happy with the results, even straight out of the box, they put a smile on my dial.
They are an amazing speaker, with the Gamma's in my room, and in my seat, my ears are basically at the top level of the woofer with the midrange and tweeter above ear height. The speakers are approx. 2.7Mtrs apart and I'm sitting approx. 3Mtrs back. They sound very much like a single point source, being a 4way active speaker I cannot detect, or sense, any of the individual drivers, or even variances in the amps. According to Adam, the tweeter is driven by class A/B amp, with the other drivers being driven by digital amps.
Imaging is amazing, so is the sound stage. The airiness, and detail are first rate as is the clarity of both instruments and vocals. I find instruments have a good sense of naturalism about them, especially instruments such as piano's and double bass. Even symbols and hi-hats have clarity and detail, likewise violins sound good without being edgy or unpleasant (unless they were recorded that way, if you get my drift). The speakers, overall have a nice sense of attack, and decay, with plenty of detail in-between without having an in your face presentation.
So far, with the amount of hours I've spent listening to the speakers, the only change I've made, is to run them full range, and this was only because I wanted to see how the speakers performed. I've not felt the need to change anything with regards to their sound. I've played many of my CD's during the week, looking for something to make me cringe, but as yet the Adams have delivered a very nice sound and very pleasing to my ears.
The amazing depth, clarity and pin point accuracy of the the sound stage, the rock solid imaging, and the single point source sound, make for a wonderful listening experience. There is also plenty of height with their presentation. Listening to these speakers off axis is also a rewarding experience, so for me, and my casual listening of streamed audio, these certainly deliver. The speakers disappear and leave you with only the sound.
So in a nutshell, yes I'm very happy with the sound, I've not experienced any harshness, edginess, or listening fatigue, even from new out of the box. There is no need to play only quality recordings; yes these do highlight the good from the bad, but the bad are still very listenable, and above all enjoyable.
Thanks also to Phil and Warwick from the Pure Music Group for making it a pleasant buying experience, keeping me informed along the way as to the progress of the speakers, and for delivering and installing them for me.
What is adam tensor ?
Can you sent me information of adam tensor.
Thanks
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Posted 04 January 2010 - 08:37 PM
Drizt, on Dec 23 2009, 10:40 AM, said:
Any updates mate.
How they treating you?
How they treating you?
Drizt, on Dec 29 2009, 09:38 PM, said:
Hey mate how goes it.
Ive been giving Audyssey a go lately (you would be proud) and it does quite a good job. Excellent in fact in some circumstances. Will be doing more testing soon.
Ive been giving Audyssey a go lately (you would be proud) and it does quite a good job. Excellent in fact in some circumstances. Will be doing more testing soon.
Hi Drizt,
The speakers are still making noise, which is always a good thing.
Audyssey I feel is a good product, but in some cases does need a little work to get the best out of it. It took me a couple of goes to get some understanding and be able to get some useful results. Good luck with it all.
I hope your new speakers are bringing you plenty of joy.
dh_trading, on Jan 3 2010, 06:30 PM, said:
What is adam tensor ?
Can you sent me information of adam tensor.
Thanks
Can you sent me information of adam tensor.
Thanks
http://www.adam-audi...-audio/products
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Posted 05 January 2010 - 07:41 AM
Spearmint, on Jan 4 2010, 09:37 PM, said:
Hi Drizt,
The speakers are still making noise, which is always a good thing.
Audyssey I feel is a good product, but in some cases does need a little work to get the best out of it. It took me a couple of goes to get some understanding and be able to get some useful results. Good luck with it all.
I hope your new speakers are bringing you plenty of joy.
The speakers are still making noise, which is always a good thing.
Audyssey I feel is a good product, but in some cases does need a little work to get the best out of it. It took me a couple of goes to get some understanding and be able to get some useful results. Good luck with it all.
I hope your new speakers are bringing you plenty of joy.
Why thank you mate. Mine too are making some noise. Im going through some trial and error to find the best placement / position / orientation for them currently. It always amazes me how much the sound changes with such little changes in position.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:00 AM
Since the weekend was rather hot and unpleasant I used the opportunity to sit and enjoy a few tunes and movies on my system.
After installing the new crossover in circuit, along with some new Interconnects, the system I feel has taken on another lease of life. It now appears to have effortless dynamics, and I find in some instances I’m listening at higher levels than previously as there is a perception of the system not being loud. Somewhat akin to comparing vinyl to CD playback on many systems, where with vinyl you can easily listen at around 100dB without the sense of the system being over the top.
Anyway, it was a nice way (and excuse) for me to sit back and relax without getting too stressed with the not so pleasant temperatures outside.
After installing the new crossover in circuit, along with some new Interconnects, the system I feel has taken on another lease of life. It now appears to have effortless dynamics, and I find in some instances I’m listening at higher levels than previously as there is a perception of the system not being loud. Somewhat akin to comparing vinyl to CD playback on many systems, where with vinyl you can easily listen at around 100dB without the sense of the system being over the top.
Anyway, it was a nice way (and excuse) for me to sit back and relax without getting too stressed with the not so pleasant temperatures outside.
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Posted 20 January 2010 - 05:55 PM
Drizt, on Jan 5 2010, 05:41 AM, said:
It always amazes me how much the sound changes with such little changes in position.
Last week, after reading an article in regards to the distance between the front loudspeakers and the distance between the front loudspeakers and the main listening position, I decided to place them approximately 30cms closer to each other.
What a positive difference that made!
Dan.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 08:51 AM
dantan, on Jan 20 2010, 06:55 PM, said:
I completely agree, mate.
Last week, after reading an article in regards to the distance between the front loudspeakers and the distance between the front loudspeakers and the main listening position, I decided to place them approximately 30cms closer to each other.
What a positive difference that made!
Dan.
Last week, after reading an article in regards to the distance between the front loudspeakers and the distance between the front loudspeakers and the main listening position, I decided to place them approximately 30cms closer to each other.
What a positive difference that made!
Dan.
Great stuff dantan. Good to hear.
Just out of curiousity, did you take any room measurements before and after? Id be interested to know if you could see any big differences in the plots.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:17 PM
Drizt, on Jan 23 2010, 06:51 AM, said:
Great stuff dantan. Good to hear.
Just out of curiousity, did you take any room measurements before and after? Id be interested to know if you could see any big differences in the plots.
Just out of curiousity, did you take any room measurements before and after? Id be interested to know if you could see any big differences in the plots.
Unfortunately, I didn't. I have listened to heaps of familiar Music discs and Blu-ray Discs and can confirm that sound performance has improved.
Dan.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 09:11 PM
dantan, on Feb 2 2010, 02:17 PM, said:
Thanks mate.
Unfortunately, I didn't. I have listened to heaps of familiar Music discs and Blu-ray Discs and can confirm that sound performance has improved.
Dan.
Unfortunately, I didn't. I have listened to heaps of familiar Music discs and Blu-ray Discs and can confirm that sound performance has improved.
Dan.
No probs mate. Its just a topical interest of mine at the moment. I like to correlate what I'm hearing with what I can measure to see how they marry up. So far I have personally found a very very strong relationship between measured response and listening enjoyment.
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 05:00 AM
Drizt, on Feb 2 2010, 10:11 PM, said:
No probs mate. Its just a topical interest of mine at the moment. I like to correlate what I'm hearing with what I can measure to see how they marry up. So far I have personally found a very very strong relationship between measured response and listening enjoyment.
Drizt I really feel you need to sit back and smell the roses for a change.
If you try to ignore your in-room response, I'm sure you would enjoy your system all the more.
I've now had quite a number of fellow audiophiles call by for a tune or two on the Gamma's, and none of them appear to be concerned with the in-room response of the speakers, only the audible results of their music.
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 06:21 AM
Spearmint, on Feb 3 2010, 06:00 AM, said:
Drizt I really feel you need to sit back and smell the roses for a change.
If you try to ignore your in-room response, I'm sure you would enjoy your system all the more.
I've now had quite a number of fellow audiophiles call by for a tune or two on the Gamma's, and none of them appear to be concerned with the in-room response of the speakers, only the audible results of their music.
If you try to ignore your in-room response, I'm sure you would enjoy your system all the more.
I've now had quite a number of fellow audiophiles call by for a tune or two on the Gamma's, and none of them appear to be concerned with the in-room response of the speakers, only the audible results of their music.
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Bump....just came across this. That is some tastey, tastey gear....the speakers I'm talking about.
