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WAKE BOARDER
post May 6 2009, 10:35 PM
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i have settled on the epson tw3000.

i am getting mixed info now on screen choice. Speaking with oztheatre screens he flat out says dont go budget screens, so his trying to flog the 3d majestic for $1100.

Another screen retailer who sells oztheatre screens amongst others reckons dont waste the extra $$ on a screen that makes no difference and there $500 longhorne screen will do as good a job as any. In fact he says that they have a $5000 display screen that lets more light thru than any other budget screen they sell.

whats peoples thoughts on screens.

Also what color should you paint the wall that the screen mounts to. Is it better to be lighter or darker. i see plenty of white walls and also plenty of dark to black walls when trawlling the net.

Im fairly handy, should i have no drama setting the whole set-up up myself. or is there alot of calibration and other critical things involved for optimum set-up

cheers in advance
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post May 6 2009, 11:11 PM
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G,Day Wake Boarder,
It really depends on what budget you have. I have just ordered a TW5000 and a 110 inch Majestic 3D Evo screen. The reason l went with the Oz theatre screen was i didn't want to spend all that money on the pj and put the image on a cheap and nasty screen. I know if i did l would always be wondering how much better the image might be on a good screen. I probably like yourself spoke to the professionals but in most cases they will push there product with the highest mark up. I found by reading this forum that Oz theatre screens had a excellent rep and most pj owners that purchased a Oz screen said there was a huge difference compared to there cheaper screen. I think forums like this one will generally give you an honest opinion because they are not trying to sell you there products.
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post May 7 2009, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (WAKE BOARDER @ May 6 2009, 08:35 PM) *
whats peoples thoughts on screens.


Buy the best screen you can't afford, it will last you a lifetime. Go for the new Stewart StudioTek 130 G3.
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post May 7 2009, 09:07 AM
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Im in a similar boat and trust what other forum members say.
Being in Adelaide, Screen Techniques (Not sure of the spelling) dominate displays, but OZTS screens seem to be very popular on the forum and like BADDOGGY said, have rave reviews on the forum.

Seeing as tho ST and OZTS theatre screens are very similar in price, I would be inclined to go with a OZTS screen as you are dealing direct and have plenty of backup from the forum and imo seem a more attractive screen.

There is however this screen for sale... http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=77384 on the forum you might like to look at!

Let me know how you go!
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post May 7 2009, 09:47 AM
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I bought a TW3000 as well but yet to receive it. I built a screen last weekend using blockout cloth from Spotlight and thought I'd try that out first and see if its good enough when I get my proj. Its cheap going this route. Took me about 3 hours and cost me about $120 in materials.
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post May 7 2009, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (blasfermi @ May 7 2009, 09:47 AM) *
I bought a TW3000 as well but yet to receive it. I built a screen last weekend using blockout cloth from Spotlight and thought I'd try that out first and see if its good enough when I get my proj. Its cheap going this route. Took me about 3 hours and cost me about $120 in materials.



IT looks like general consensus is you wont be doing your 1080p justice with a home made screen.
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post May 7 2009, 10:42 AM
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Yeah...thats true. Its just for the mean time when the pocket is shallow. Hehe. I'll definitely get a good screen when things pickup and job is more secure.
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post May 7 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (WAKE BOARDER @ May 7 2009, 10:27 AM) *
IT looks like general consensus is you wont be doing your 1080p justice with a home made screen.


WAKE , consider a few things

The material makes the screen. Some forum members have made there own screens and they look and perform as good as some of the high end versions due to the quality of the material used

OZ Theatre has a good selection of screens and if you want to save some dollars and are handy with tools, you could make your own buy buying just the material from him.

Oz theatre screens will provide you a fantastic result without a massive price tag. $1100 for the screen is a bargin, Check out some of the high end screens and sit down before you get the Price tag.

Value for money, the Evo 3d is gold.

I personally like AT screens, so different material again.

Debating selling my Motorised Lp Morgan screen at present.

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post May 7 2009, 11:20 AM
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Longhorn do not sell our brand of screens. You're being lied to.



QUOTE (WAKE BOARDER @ May 6 2009, 10:35 PM) *
i have settled on the epson tw3000.

i am getting mixed info now on screen choice. Speaking with oztheatre screens he flat out says dont go budget screens, so his trying to flog the 3d majestic for $1100.

Another screen retailer who sells oztheatre screens amongst others reckons dont waste the extra $$ on a screen that makes no difference and there $500 longhorne screen will do as good a job as any. In fact he says that they have a $5000 display screen that lets more light thru than any other budget screen they sell.

whats peoples thoughts on screens.

Also what color should you paint the wall that the screen mounts to. Is it better to be lighter or darker. i see plenty of white walls and also plenty of dark to black walls when trawlling the net.

Im fairly handy, should i have no drama setting the whole set-up up myself. or is there alot of calibration and other critical things involved for optimum set-up

cheers in advance

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post May 7 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (WAKE BOARDER @ May 6 2009, 10:35 PM) *
i have settled on the epson tw3000.

i am getting mixed info now on screen choice. Speaking with oztheatre screens he flat out says dont go budget screens, so his trying to flog the 3d majestic for $1100.

Another screen retailer who sells oztheatre screens amongst others reckons dont waste the extra $$ on a screen that makes no difference and there $500 longhorne screen will do as good a job as any. In fact he says that they have a $5000 display screen that lets more light thru than any other budget screen they sell.

whats peoples thoughts on screens.

Also what color should you paint the wall that the screen mounts to. Is it better to be lighter or darker. i see plenty of white walls and also plenty of dark to black walls when trawlling the net.

Im fairly handy, should i have no drama setting the whole set-up up myself. or is there alot of calibration and other critical things involved for optimum set-up

cheers in advance


1. You have a fine projector and now you want to do it justice.
2. In order to do that I would definitely buy an OZTS screen. I have a 130" Scope with Evolution 3 - it's magnificent and easy to assemble. Bang for buck nothing even comes close to the OZTS screen. Unfortunately due to WAF I have to go motorized otherwise I would have used the OZTS screen.
3. Dark walls increase perceived Contrast. Dark blue, brown, purple - there's many options as long as its dark.
4. If you are talking ISF Calibration get a professional in to perform this task once the projector has about 50 hours on it. If you get your prjector professionally calibrated you will get the best from it.
5. If your retailer is suggesting spending extra $$$ on a screen won't make any difference he either 1) doesn't know what he's talking about 2) is pushing a particular brand because that's what he makes the biggest margin on & 3) Your retailer cannot possibly sell OZTS because they are exclusive to OZTS (i.e He's full of crap). There is of course a diminishing return on just how many $$$ you spend on any HT equipment. Any equipment's value is what you give it - not what others perceive it to be or what popular opinion suggests.

Good luck.

Cheers

Blade

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post May 7 2009, 11:32 AM
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Most people that make screens will send you some samples, which you can just stick on the wall and
at least test what difference there is in the image for the different types of screen.

Other than that a good sturdy frame made from a material that absorbs light, and a method of easily
tensioning the screen, and I can vouch for the oztheartre screens there, they are a quality build.

As for colours I went for Mojo on the ceiling, and an elephants bum grey on the walls

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post May 7 2009, 11:36 AM
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I have owned or demo'ed about 8 screens in the past 6 years - and, yes, my wife reminds me about it every chance she gets. Those screens include a DaLite pull-up screen, a Longhorn-Pro, an LP Morgan Novares, a Sony DynaClear, and now an OZTS 2.37:1 screen (yes, that's only 5, but there were more in between that don't even rate a mention...).

Unequivocally, the OZTS is the best screen that I have owned - reflective but not to the point of hot-spotting, no light pass-through, completely sheen surface (this makes a lot more difference than you would think - don't buy into that "special textured surface" crap, I can tell you from first hand experience, it's crap), and better value for money than a Stewart Screen. Plus, it's 2.37:1, and once you've had cinemascope, you'll never go back.

If you can't afford a good screen yet, grab a crappy one for $100 or less and then save until you can afford an OZTS then flog that other thing back onto eBay. Or else, just hold out until you can afford the OZTS...
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post May 7 2009, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (McKenzieJr @ May 7 2009, 11:36 AM) *
I have owned or demo'ed about 8 screens in the past 6 years - and, yes, my wife reminds me about it every chance she gets. Those screens include a DaLite pull-up screen, a Longhorn-Pro, an LP Morgan Novares, a Sony DynaClear, and now an OZTS 2.37:1 screen (yes, that's only 5, but there were more in between that don't even rate a mention...).

Unequivocally, the OZTS is the best screen that I have owned - reflective but not to the point of hot-spotting, no light pass-through, completely sheen surface (this makes a lot more difference than you would think - don't buy into that "special textured surface" crap, I can tell you from first hand experience, it's crap), and better value for money than a Stewart Screen. Plus, it's 2.37:1, and once you've had cinemascope, you'll never go back.

If you can't afford a good screen yet, grab a crappy one for $100 or less and then save until you can afford an OZTS then flog that other thing back onto eBay. Or else, just hold out until you can afford the OZTS...


A big +1
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post May 7 2009, 02:41 PM
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is the ozts aurora a decent screen for someone that isn't serious into home cinema, but uses a projector on occasion?

i onyl have a very cheap screen at the moment, so wondering if the extra money would benefit me.

dont think id get a full out $majestic evo right now, but the screens sound great.
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post May 7 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (WAKE BOARDER @ May 6 2009, 10:35 PM) *
i have settled on the epson tw3000.

i am getting mixed info now on screen choice. Speaking with oztheatre screens he flat out says dont go budget screens, so his trying to flog the 3d majestic for $1100.

Another screen retailer who sells oztheatre screens amongst others reckons dont waste the extra $$ on a screen that makes no difference and there $500 longhorne screen will do as good a job as any. In fact he says that they have a $5000 display screen that lets more light thru than any other budget screen they sell.

whats peoples thoughts on screens.

Also what color should you paint the wall that the screen mounts to. Is it better to be lighter or darker. i see plenty of white walls and also plenty of dark to black walls when trawlling the net.

Im fairly handy, should i have no drama setting the whole set-up up myself. or is there alot of calibration and other critical things involved for optimum set-up

cheers in advance


One question. Are you only considering a fixed screen or are you open to a motorized unit?
Obviously that's a key bit of info.
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post May 7 2009, 04:30 PM
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post May 7 2009, 04:48 PM
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Funds permitting i think im sold on the 3d majestic oztheatre screen 100".

if mr oztheatre sees this, can you do a good deal on 2 x off delivered to melb.
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post May 7 2009, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (oztheatre @ May 7 2009, 11:20 AM) *
Longhorn do not sell our brand of screens. You're being lied to.



Sounds like Ausmedia strikes again!!!!! What do you think Richard???



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post May 7 2009, 10:06 PM
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i was told by several industry professionals when i was searching for a decent screen (people who sold screens), that spending 1000+ dollars on a screen will only yield about a 5-10% increase in picture quality. When it was put to me like that it made me think how worth it is it really ? Specially when these people were basically talking me out of making a sale for themselves, that's gotta be an honest salesman.

i'd like to have nice pro velor finished screen but i am going to be shooting on the wall first to make sure the size is right - From Bunnings you can get the British Paints Ultra Flat White which they market as their 'projector paint'.

I've done a triple coat and sand papered smooth between each coat of this, then i'll be getting some meranti timber framing, painting it matte black and framing the painted 16x9 space. For a low low budget alternative it's a pretty good result.

I'm yet to receive my projector so can't comment on how it actually looks yet but i was told this is a good approach when starting out as you can always just put up a pro screen over the top later if you want...you can then also put up screen samples over the painted screen and compare, i'm going to have a go at doing this and i think it will be interesting to see if there really is a huge difference vs Cost of a decent screen.

just another approach you can take.
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I had a painted wall that provided excelent colour reproduction. What it lacked though was a well flocked surround (which really improves the viewing experience in my opinion) and it did not provide as much gain as my current screen.

I'd consider your frame as well as the projection surface. DIY can still be good. I do own one of Richards screens (OzHT) and the quality of his frames is excellent - perfect mitres and the flocking is the best I have seen in my own looking around.

Comes down to how much money you wish to part with for ever smaller gains I guess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .
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