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[collinhack]

Hi all, hope someone in here can help out :-)

I've just got a DVDR with my setup.  It's connected up via composite on the AV channel of my DVDR to the DVDR composite inputs and outputs on the back of the 3800.  However, in this configuration it can play discs fine, but I cannot record anything.

If I swap the composite outputs (inputs to the DVDR itself) from the DVDR section on the back to 3800 to Zone 2 sound and picture out, then I can record whatever I'm watching in zone 2.

What gives?  Shouldn't it record via the outputs of the DVDR section?  Any ideas?

[collinhack]

Mystery solved!  It's because I was trying to use only Zone 2 when doing the recording, and the DVDR input  on the back of the Yammy is for zone 1.

[geoffcb]

Hi 3800 owners!

I'm running my 3800 in 7.1 mode, with presence speakers. I have the set the priority to centre rear speakers over presence. The PLIIx decoder sets itself to Auto each time I power up. This means that for 5.1 programs these speakers aren't running. I used to be able to force the decoders on my old RX-V2400, but do I need to go through the GUI and set the decoders on each time if I want to run pseudo 7.1?

I'm quite happy to run 5.1, but it seems a waste of the centre rears not to use them much. Any suggestions?


Also, I thought these models only had Burr Browns on the front three channels, but one Yamaha website stated they were present on all channels. Would the later 3800 models have incorporated this?

cheers

Geoff

[Chopsus]

geoffcb, on Feb 1 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

Hi 3800 owners!

I'm running my 3800 in 7.1 mode, with presence speakers. I have the set the priority to centre rear speakers over presence. The PLIIx decoder sets itself to Auto each time I power up. This means that for 5.1 programs these speakers aren't running. I used to be able to force the decoders on my old RX-V2400, but do I need to go through the GUI and set the decoders on each time if I want to run pseudo 7.1?

I'm quite happy to run 5.1, but it seems a waste of the centre rears not to use them much. Any suggestions?


Also, I thought these models only had Burr Browns on the front three channels, but one Yamaha website stated they were present on all channels. Would the later 3800 models have incorporated this?

cheers

Geoff

Hi Geoff,

I'm running 6.1 with presence speakers (so essentially the same as you) ... also I have speaker priority set to rear (center rear isn't an option and does not exist) .... now - if you don't have es/ex permanently set to on (I think in the extd section of the menu) you will not get the rear effects, but you should for the main surround fields like DPLiix, Neo etc ..... the priority refers to when you use the DSP sound fields (movie, Sci Fi, Church in Amerstam etc.) AND if you have the 3D function enabled you will lose the rear speakers in favour of the presence speakers.

p.s.: you might find if you set everything up the way you want and save it to a memory that what you are experiencing with DPLiix to auto might stop - I also think these settings are input specific, in fact I am sure there is a setting in the menu for "auto" or "last used" .... I suspect you need to change the setting for the input you want to use to the latter and it should then remember the last decoder/sound field you used.

Have a play with the above and I am sure you will sort it out.

As for the burr browns ..... I did read something on a yamaha site once that claimed burr brown dac's all round for the 3800, but I have never seen this confirmed and a lot of the info about the 3900 suggested that it was a "step up" because it had burr browns all round ....short answer: don't know for sure.

[woodvaliens]

Anyone had this "issue" with DTS HD master audio showing as PCM on the receiver display, Not DTS HDMA?

I have just purchased a Sony BDP-S550 blu-ray player. Also picked up a couple of Blu-Ray movies. Up to now, the have all had uncompressed audio, and not DTS HDMA or Dolby TrueHD, so all have said PCM on the Yamaha display anyway. I am currently watching Terminator 2, which is DTS HD Master Audio in English, but the Yamaha is showing PCM still. I have checked that the disc is actually playing the DTS HDMA track, and on the Sony display it says it is DTS HD master Audio. The outputs on the sony are set to bitstream output for Doldy and DTS,  and are output through the HDMI, The input on my Yamaha is set to HDMI and the audio sounds fine (surely if it is being fed DTS HDMA on bitstream, and I can hear it, and through all my surround speakers too, then it must be decoding the bitstream?).

Hope that someone will just know what I have setup wrong, or has this happened to anyone else?

No flames please, I have been searching through the threads to see if this has already been asked.

Any help will be gratefully received

Mark

[Chopsus]

woodvaliens, on Mar 1 2009, 07:38 PM, said:

Anyone had this "issue" with DTS HD master audio showing as PCM on the receiver display, Not DTS HDMA?

I have just purchased a Sony BDP-S550 blu-ray player. Also picked up a couple of Blu-Ray movies. Up to now, the have all had uncompressed audio, and not DTS HDMA or Dolby TrueHD, so all have said PCM on the Yamaha display anyway. I am currently watching Terminator 2, which is DTS HD Master Audio in English, but the Yamaha is showing PCM still. I have checked that the disc is actually playing the DTS HDMA track, and on the Sony display it says it is DTS HD master Audio. The outputs on the sony are set to bitstream output for Doldy and DTS,  and are output through the HDMI, The input on my Yamaha is set to HDMI and the audio sounds fine (surely if it is being fed DTS HDMA on bitstream, and I can hear it, and through all my surround speakers too, then it must be decoding the bitstream?).

Hope that someone will just know what I have setup wrong, or has this happened to anyone else?

No flames please, I have been searching through the threads to see if this has already been asked.

Any help will be gratefully received

Mark

First - push the "Straight" button on your receiver remote (or under the flip out door) and see if that fixes it ...
Second check that you don't have your BD Player outputting PCM instead of Bitream
Third ... you may need to dig into the GUI Menu for that particular input and have a play.

It definitely does play DTS HDMA .... I really suspect my first suggestion will work.

[woodvaliens]

Chopsus, on Mar 1 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

First - push the "Straight" button on your receiver remote (or under the flip out door) and see if that fixes it ...
Second check that you don't have your BD Player outputting PCM instead of Bitream
Third ... you may need to dig into the GUI Menu for that particular input and have a play.

It definitely does play DTS HDMA .... I really suspect my first suggestion will work.

Thanks Chopsus

Tried the "Straight", just sets to PCM. I then tried a new HDMI cable I have, no change. I note that on the front of the Yammy it shows that I am receiving L and R only, not all the surround channels. I checked with my old Pioneer DVD player on optical input, it shows 5.1 inputs, not juts L and R. Then after trawling through changing one thing at a time on the Yammy, I went to the HDMI setting that is set to either RXV3800 or Other. This was set to other? When I changed it to RXV3800, all my input channels lit up. Viola. I have not read up on the difference between the settings for this as yet, as I am really tired, and need to a sleep before work (in a couple of hours).

Thanks again, this started me to go in the right direction, you know when you have blinkers on, and just can't get anywhere?

Scary thing, I have been playing my Pioneers LX508 plasma input through HDMI on 2 channel input for about 8 months, and thought it sounded good. I really need to read manuals before setting things up.

Very grateful indeed to you.

Cheers again

Mark

[Chopsus]

woodvaliens, on Mar 1 2009, 10:50 PM, said:

Thanks Chopsus

Tried the "Straight", just sets to PCM. I then tried a new HDMI cable I have, no change. I note that on the front of the Yammy it shows that I am receiving L and R only, not all the surround channels. I checked with my old Pioneer DVD player on optical input, it shows 5.1 inputs, not juts L and R. Then after trawling through changing one thing at a time on the Yammy, I went to the HDMI setting that is set to either RXV3800 or Other. This was set to other? When I changed it to RXV3800, all my input channels lit up. Viola. I have not read up on the difference between the settings for this as yet, as I am really tired, and need to a sleep before work (in a couple of hours).

Thanks again, this started me to go in the right direction, you know when you have blinkers on, and just can't get anywhere?

Scary thing, I have been playing my Pioneers LX508 plasma input through HDMI on 2 channel input for about 8 months, and thought it sounded good. I really need to read manuals before setting things up.

Very grateful indeed to you.

Cheers again

Mark

Hey Mark ... glad you got it sorted ... I had noticed that setting before, and (still) don't have a clue what it's for .... perhaps HDMI control (like anynet etc.??) anyway it worked.

After I posted I remembered that there is also an audio input priority setting (analog, optical, HDMI) .... I have had this set incorrectly for my DVDr for about 3 months (mainly 'cause I never use it).

To be honest I find it always best to check the display every time I watch a BD ... it amazes me how sometimes it inadvertently ends up on DTS NEo 6 (or others), when what I want is a straight decode

[shmando]

Hi All,
Have just added a dedicated CD player to my 3800 instead of always using the DVD and have a problem crop up.
I have zone 2 setup for my outdoor area which used to play which ever input I selected. With the addition of the CD player I can now only get Aux/Dock to output to zone 2.
Connections to 3800 are as follows:
DVD - via HDMI to DVD input
CD - via coax to CD input
Dock - via dedicated connection
TV - via HDMI to DTV/CBL
HDMI output is connected to TV as well.
Zone 2 speakers are connected to SP1 terminals, main room setup is 5.1 using appropriate terminals (F, Sur, C & Sw)
Does anyone have any suggestions? My first guess was maybe i'd changed something in the menu related to presence speakers etc, but can't find anything obvious.

Any feedback appreciated.

CA

[woodvaliens]

For anyone interested in updating the firmware of their RX-V3800 receiver, and also for anyone living in the Perth Metro area of WA.

I purchased my receiver in January of 2008 (as with everyone else, this receiver has a standard full 2 yr warranty from Yamaha), I had been concerned about if my receiver would have an issue with the DTS HDMA "POP", or DTS Bomb as some call it. I checked with Yamaha customer service and was advised that by my serial number detail, my unit should not have any issue, as the firmware is most likely OK on that build. Well, having not really paid that much attention on what Blu-Ray movies I buy (to replace DVD's I already own, and that I consider worth spending the extra chunk of money for). I was playing Flight of The Phoenix (the new movie), and at about 51 minutes and 23 seconds into that movie, I was surprised at just how much kick my receiver and attached speakers really had. There was the DTS Pop, and having the the receiver on fairly loud anyway appears to mean that the Pop is factored by the originating volume you are running (After checking up, I see that this movie has the DTS Pop at about 51 minutes).

All speakers were intact (some of the stories about cones popping out etc.. may be urban legends). And my receiver did not go into its "reset" as they sometimes do on this issue (as per info I received from Yamaha).

Anyway, I had considered picking up the latest firmware myself, and just having a go (I do my own Blu-Ray player and my PC mobo), but was advised by Yamaha that if I used it (updated it myself) my warranty would go bye byes (not to mention that the US firmware is for a receiver which has other abilities than the version we get here, so the chipset may well be different too).

Yamaha advised on 3 "Dealer supported repair agents" for the Metro area here in WA, of the three I called, (2 of them said) that the unit would have to sit on a shelf for 10 days before they even look at it, and you can't "book" it in, then bring it in on the 10th day (so that you do not have to live without it for 2 weeks. On speaking with the Balcatta agent, he made it clear that there may be a need for a complete chip change in the system, and that it will take some investigation etc.. and that he had not had a 3800 yet, so he was not convinced that was all that was needed) You can't just bring the receiver in on the 10th day, everyone has to wait 10 days, and it has to be in their store?. When I called Trans Electronics in Vic Park (furthest one from me as you would expect), he said, Oh yes, done loads of them (and many other makes for the same issue with same chipset I think), nothing to it, bring it in early and pick up later same day. I asked about the 10 day wait etc.. He said why, he does them all the time, fits it in while doing repairs (needs to be hooked up to an UPS and set the firmware update while doing other things).

Popped in at 10am with the receiver, he checked the receipt for being under 2 years old (but Yamaha says that they will update now over the warranty for free as it was their error anyway), checked 4 hours later, ready to go. Got it home and re played the same movie, viola: No pop, and the receiver did not have to wait in a 10 day holding pattern.

Moral of story: Don't bother trying the firmware update yourself, they do it for free, and any problems they will then cover. Next point: Find an agent who knows exactly what you are talking about and says it is no big deal. If someone says they will have to read up on it, or take the unit apart to check things, they most likely will want it for weeks. The other thing I would note is that, unlike when I did an update on my Blu-Ray player online, the Yamaha loses all your presets in memory/ settings, except for the radio stations (which I thought was weird anyway, must be on another chip). I am also not sure about this, but I think that I have now got additional entries in the "Menu" for settings in the receiver.

And I still haven't figured out how to get (with a blu-Ray input on PCM or DTS-HDMA/ DD TrueHD) my system to use all 7.1 speakers when I am getting a 5.1 input. Works fine for DVD's with 5.1, I guess that I would have to use the standard DTS or DD audio from those movies, as the HD inputs "may" be locked from allowing use of the rears. [Expecting Chopsus to tell me what I am doing wrong here :-)]

[Chopsus]

woodvaliens, on Mar 29 2009, 03:14 PM, said:

For anyone interested in updating the firmware of their RX-V3800 receiver, and also for anyone living in the Perth Metro area of WA.

Hi Mark,

1. Shocked to hear your January purchased 3800 hat the DTS Bomb - it really shouldn't have .... lucky it did no damage.
2. The talk about chipsets being different, to the U.S., and or needing replacement is complete Bull-Do-Do .... Yes there are different features in the U.S. model but they can be turned on in the Aus model as the chipset is the same (from what I can work out the extra features are actually software based and loaded from an onboard ROM when you access the service menu.
3. The latest firmware does the DTS bomb and more importantly for purists: allows the passing of BTB and WTW parts of the video signal.
4. Doing it yourself would likely void the warranty, if they bothered to check, and I am not sure you can go back to an older firmware if you did need to claim under warranty for another issue.
5. Getting a service agent to do it removes all the risk ... just using a UPS alone would make me less fearful .... reading what you were told I would say the first to service agents are full of shiet and I would avoid them.
6. It's a pain in the butt (as you now know) to rip a well integrated receiver out of your setup then have to reconnect it, especially if you are obsessive about legacy connections like me.  This is why I would really like Yamaha's permission to do it myself.
7. You need to turn on ex/es "always on" I think it is in the surround menu to get 7.1 processing from a 5.1 stream .... DTS Neo and DD PLIIx will also do this for any channels (best for 2 channels to 7) but if you have a true 5.1 stream you are best to use ex/es as most 5.1 soundtrack actually have the 6/7 channel data matrixed into the data stream (even if it's not aknowledged on the cover - this goes for DVD's to) .

Cheers

Chops

Edited by Chopsus, 29 March 2009 - 05:33 PM.

[woodvaliens]

Chopsus, on Mar 29 2009, 03:31 PM, said:

Hi Mark,

1. Shocked to hear your January purchased 3800 hat the DTS Bomb - it really shouldn't have .... lucky it did no damage.
2. The talk about chipsets being different, to the U.S., and or needing replacement is complete Bull-Do-Do .... Yes there are different features in the U.S. model but they can be turned on in the Aus model as the chipset is the same (from what I can work out the extra features are actually software based and loaded from an onboard ROM when you access the service menu.
3. The latest firmware does the DTS bomb and more importantly for purists: allows the passing of BTB and WTW parts of the video signal.
4. Doing it yourself would likely void the warranty, if they bothered to check, and I am not sure you can go back to an older firmware if you did need to claim under warranty for another issue.
5. Getting a service agent to do it removes all the risk ... just using a UPS alone would make me less fearful .... reading what you were told I would say the first to service agents are full of shiet and I would avoid them.
6. It's a pain in the butt (as you now know) to rip a well integrated receiver out of your setup then have to reconnect it, especially if you are obsessive about legacy connections like me.  This is why I would really like Yamaha's permission to do it myself.
7. You need to turn on ex/es "always on" I think it is in the surround menu to get 7.1 processing from a 5.1 stream .... DTS Neo and DD PLIIx will also do this for any channels (best for 2 channels to 7) but if you have a true 5.1 stream you are best to use ex/es as most 5.1 soundtrack actually have the 6/7 channel data matrixed into the data stream (even if it's not aknowledged on the cover - this goes for DVD's to) .

Cheers

Chops

Chops

That was quick, I knew you would help me out  

As for the new firmware still doing the DTS bomb? DOH, but it no longer does it with the Flight of the Phoenix (which is on the list of ones to be aware of), so will they be doing yet another "fix" for this issue? As for now passing BTB and WTW, I will have to google to even know what that means. And as for the repair agents, the guy that did the update did say that Yamaha are "considering" allowing Australians to do updates themselves (In the future, they may put links for firmware updates here in Aus. That would be great if you ask me, and I do have a 3000VA UPS on my PC which would take out the scare of a power cut during the flashing)
Just on the use of EX/ES, you may be able to clarify for me. From "elsewhere" on the net, a receiver when "decoding" may actually end up using the "core" of the data stream (DTS core?), if you use any DSP modes. To be honest, the whole thing starts to get a little confusing, so we get a DTS HDMA feed, this has within it a DTS core, some receivers will actually only use the DTS core (if they cannot deal with the DTS HDMA feed during decode), is that right? Or maybe I should just stop trying to think too much (Maybe thinking is not my strong point).  

Thanks again Chops, I will give that (EX/ES) a "go" tonight with I Robot.

Mark

[Chopsus]

woodvaliens, on Mar 29 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

Chops

That was quick, I knew you would help me out  

As for the new firmware still doing the DTS bomb? DOH, but it no longer does it with the Flight of the Phoenix (which is on the list of ones to be aware of), so will they be doing yet another "fix" for this issue? As for now passing BTB and WTW, I will have to google to even know what that means. And as for the repair agents, the guy that did the update did say that Yamaha are "considering" allowing Australians to do updates themselves (In the future, they may put links for firmware updates here in Aus. That would be great if you ask me, and I do have a 3000VA UPS on my PC which would take out the scare of a power cut during the flashing)
Just on the use of EX/ES, you may be able to clarify for me. From "elsewhere" on the net, a receiver when "decoding" may actually end up using the "core" of the data stream (DTS core?), if you use any DSP modes. To be honest, the whole thing starts to get a little confusing, so we get a DTS HDMA feed, this has within it a DTS core, some receivers will actually only use the DTS core (if they cannot deal with the DTS HDMA feed during decode), is that right? Or maybe I should just stop trying to think too much (Maybe thinking is not my strong point).  

Thanks again Chops, I will give that (EX/ES) a "go" tonight with I Robot.

Mark

Hi Mark - BTB and WHW are just the Black below Black and White above White signals that can be found in most test patterns for calibrating your display ... computers and lots of high end gear pass this part of the signal through ... lots of receivers and some TV's can't won't pass this part of the picture through .... at the end of the day it shouldn't matter of you have your brightness and contrast set correctly because you should not be able to see these blacker and whiter bits ... not being able to get them to your display does make it harder to calibrate/adjust it so you can;t see them.

Reciever that don't pass this part of the signal are said to "clip" the signal and purists understandably get upset that their new Onkyo or Yamaha amp is clipping the signal making it more dificult to perfectly set up their display.

If you do a bit of searching on the forum you will find heaps about this because we have all argued about it heaps before .... needless to say that Yamaha releasing a firmware that stops the 3800 from clipping makes Yamaha receivers better than their lessor competitors that do clip (from now on)   .

Now the whole DTS core thing has been discussed here to and I am far form having my head around it, but from what I understand the DTS core is exactly that and can be decoded by any bog standard DTS chip, it;s the other part of the data that contains the lossless info so that the core can be recompiled to perfect and only DTSHD/MA chips can decode that .... could be wrong though.

Ex (dolby) Es (DTS) are different again and use the same "technology" implemented in prologic surround (getting 4/5 channels out of 2) in that the Surround back (6/7) channels are matrixed into the surround L/R channels, except that in this case you have the real data for 5.1 channels and the software is teasing out the 6th and 7th channel from the info matrixed into the surround channels. Sometimes there is full/real channel data encoded there and this is called discreet (as in 6.1 or 7.1 discrete ex/es) other times it's reconstituted and that;s matrixed.  I'm sure there are people here that will chime in with a better (more accurate description).

[woodvaliens]

Chopsus, on Mar 29 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Hi Mark - BTB and WHW are just the Black below Black and White above White signals that can be found in most test patterns for calibrating your display ... computers and lots of high end gear pass this part of the signal through ... lots of receivers and some TV's can't won't pass this part of the picture through .... at the end of the day it shouldn't matter of you have your brightness and contrast set correctly because you should not be able to see these blacker and whiter bits ... not being able to get them to your display does make it harder to calibrate/adjust it so you can;t see them.

Reciever that don't pass this part of the signal are said to "clip" the signal and purists understandably get upset that their new Onkyo or Yamaha amp is clipping the signal making it more dificult to perfectly set up their display.

If you do a bit of searching on the forum you will find heaps about this because we have all argued about it heaps before .... needless to say that Yamaha releasing a firmware that stops the 3800 from clipping makes Yamaha receivers better than their lessor competitors that do clip (from now on)   .

Now the whole DTS core thing has been discussed here to and I am far form having my head around it, but from what I understand the DTS core is exactly that and can be decoded by any bog standard DTS chip, it;s the other part of the data that contains the lossless info so that the core can be recompiled to perfect and only DTSHD/MA chips can decode that .... could be wrong though.

Ex (dolby) Es (DTS) are different again and use the same "technology" implemented in prologic surround (getting 4/5 channels out of 2) in that the Surround back (6/7) channels are matrixed into the surround L/R channels, except that in this case you have the real data for 5.1 channels and the software is teasing out the 6th and 7th channel from the info matrixed into the surround channels. Sometimes there is full/real channel data encoded there and this is called discreet (as in 6.1 or 7.1 discrete ex/es) other times it's reconstituted and that;s matrixed.  I'm sure there are people here that will chime in with a better (more accurate description).

Chops

Thanks are in order again. In the Yamaha menu, went to each input (since the firmware update all the previous settings were removed), once input set to DVD, screen goes off momentarily, then back to menu, go to manual/ decode and set EX/ES, as suggested, then to input again and select BD, back again to manual and set decode to EX/ES. All is well again. PCM/ DTS HDMA and DD TrueHD all giving the rear surrounds something to do now.

I would not say that I am technologically challenged, but for some reason I do get blinkers on when getting into the menu for the Yammy.

Ever thought of working for Yamaha on their customer help line? You give the answers they can't.

And, regarding screens (Mine is a plasma), I had thought about getting one of those 'calibration discs". Pioneer installed the screen when I purchased it (well, contractors did), they connected the bits I had together (didn't have a Blu-Ray then, so just used the upscale of the Yammy for my DVD player). My wife was at home when this happened, and she told me that they did have one of those "test screens" up when setting things up, so I assume that they would have done some type of calibration (On a tangent here, but I think I heard that Pioneer are stopping selling Plasma's in Australia), but even so, do you use one of those Video calibration discs yourself?, or do you think that you really need the professional setup like other guys here talk about (such as Avical Australia, they charge $350 to calibrate your system, with a setting for each input device, Info taken from others on this site of course). I think that spending $30 on the disc they sell at JB/ BigW/ Target etc.. would not be beyond my abilities, but don't understand (unless they have colour samples in the disc cover itself), how you could know that you have red set as red unless you have a correct "red" to put against the screen to gauge it. The guy from Avical  (FYI the link is: http://www.avicalaustralia.com.au/ and this site has a link to a video clip of the guy explaining the why's and what for's), who they say travels around Aus going from house to house, uses cameras/ laptop inputs and the various meters for colour and contrast, this all sounds like it would be worth the $350 except that they "recommend" that you should set it again every six months (Saying that, I wouldn't say that my screen causes me any fatigue now, unless my wife has Home & Away on, and I am sure that is damaging all the equipment anyway).


Thanks muchly once more

[Chopsus]

Hey Mark,

Your screen would not be perfect - none are. If you are not into DIY then a professional calibration is likely to impress - I am yet to read of one person who didn't find their setup producing more detal/3d feel to it after calibration.  Avical (Melb) and Mark Techer (Brisbane) both have very good reps and you'll see a fair bit of Mark on the forums.  It's still a lot of dough though and personally I wouldn't bother on a small (less than 50 inch) screen. The bigger you go the more noticeable a calibration will be (IMHO).

I use Digital Video Essentials Blue Ray edition ($30 or so) and it get the job done mostly .... just setting brightness and contrast using this disc makes a huge difference to the detail you'll see. It comes with color filters that you look at patterns through in order to set the colour correctly).  I'm into DIY, and am also on long service leave at the moment, so I have bought an Eye One Display 2 Colorimeter (as part of a Group Buy here on DTV) .... this is the enthusiasts version of a colour probe like the professionals use.  It hooks to the laptop and means I don't have to trust my eyes, the computer tells me what it's seeing .... I am yet to full calibrate my projector but have done all my computer monitors and the greyscale on my Flatscreen .... takes a lot of time and fiddling - which is why paying a professional is probably worth it (if your not into toys and tinkering like me).

As for Yamaha's help line - I don't think they would want to pay my hourly rate  

[noisuf]

Hi, has anyone loaded the o061 firmware? So tempted to do this so I don't need to travel 30 kms to the authorised Yamaha service centre and needing to also pull out all my wiring.

My 2 yr warranty doesn't run out for another 1/2 year so it may not be worth the risk.

It sounds like the firmware is global?

Is this clip fix firmware available at Aus service centres yet anyway?

[Chopsus]

noisuf, on Apr 2 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

Hi, has anyone loaded the o061 firmware? So tempted to do this so I don't need to travel 30 kms to the authorised Yamaha service centre and needing to also pull out all my wiring.

My 2 yr warranty doesn't run out for another 1/2 year so it may not be worth the risk.

It sounds like the firmware is global?

Is this clip fix firmware available at Aus service centres yet anyway?

Woodvaliens (to posts up) just has his updated by a (EDIT: Sony?? I meant) Yamaha service centre - I dare say it would have been to the latest one.

I wonder if this firmware fixes the display glitch on the front panel with DTSHDMA 5,1 tracks showing as 7.1?  Anyone else picked this up? It's not a functional issue, but still it;s not correct.

Edited by Chopsus, 03 April 2009 - 08:44 AM.

[MRCRIST]

Chopsus, on Apr 2 2009, 10:12 PM, said:

Woodvaliens (to posts up) just has his updated by a Sony service centre - I dare say it would have been to the latest one.

I wonder if this firmware fixes the display glitch on the front panel with DTSHDMA 5,1 tracks showing as 7.1?  Anyone else picked this up? It's not a functional issue, but still it;s not correct.

Just updated mine. Unfortunately the issue above is still there. This firmware corrects the RGB issues via HDMI re BTB and WTW. Many who have updated can now see the various black "X" when using calibration tools.
It also fixes the DTS MA bomb which is incorporated in the fw.

[MRCRIST]

noisuf, on Apr 2 2009, 10:01 PM, said:

Hi, has anyone loaded the o061 firmware? So tempted to do this so I don't need to travel 30 kms to the authorised Yamaha service centre and needing to also pull out all my wiring.

My 2 yr warranty doesn't run out for another 1/2 year so it may not be worth the risk.

It sounds like the firmware is global?

Is this clip fix firmware available at Aus service centres yet anyway?

Many people have downloaded the FW from the UK site. Yam Australia do not recommend it but those who have do not have any issues.

[Saturated]

I have a question regarding auto shut off of RXV3800. I know there is the sleep function, but was curious to know if there is any auto shut down function if there is no signal noted for x amount of time.


Anyone aware of how I could make this function work?


cheers,

[geoffcb]

Chopsus, on Feb 1 2009, 09:24 PM, said:

Hi Geoff,

I'm running 6.1 with presence speakers (so essentially the same as you) ... also I have speaker priority set to rear (center rear isn't an option and does not exist) .... now - if you don't have es/ex permanently set to on (I think in the extd section of the menu) you will not get the rear effects, but you should for the main surround fields like DPLiix, Neo etc ..... the priority refers to when you use the DSP sound fields (movie, Sci Fi, Church in Amerstam etc.) AND if you have the 3D function enabled you will lose the rear speakers in favour of the presence speakers.

p.s.: you might find if you set everything up the way you want and save it to a memory that what you are experiencing with DPLiix to auto might stop - I also think these settings are input specific, in fact I am sure there is a setting in the menu for "auto" or "last used" .... I suspect you need to change the setting for the input you want to use to the latter and it should then remember the last decoder/sound field you used.

Have a play with the above and I am sure you will sort it out.

As for the burr browns ..... I did read something on a yamaha site once that claimed burr brown dac's all round for the 3800, but I have never seen this confirmed and a lot of the info about the 3900 suggested that it was a "step up" because it had burr browns all round ....short answer: don't know for sure.

Hi Chopsus

Since your reply I've had a play and have done basically what you suggested. I also had to "force" EX/ES for Dolby HD Master, and use the "last" option as you also suggested. Thanks for that. My centre surrounds are happy...

[geoffcb]

double post

Edited by geoffcb, 05 April 2009 - 09:50 AM.

[geoffcb]

Misogynist, on Apr 5 2009, 10:40 PM, said:

Hi Geoffcb,

Have you updated the firmware on your receiver?

Hmmm, no. I haven't even checked which version I have.

[the joz]

Hmmm firmware update??

How do I find out which version I have?
Then how do i update it?
Then what will the update give me??

Should I have just RTFM??

Ta!

Edited by the joz, 06 April 2009 - 12:12 PM.

[the joz]

Misogynist, on Apr 6 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

BTB and WTW

wtf ?