Projector Screen, Whats the consensus? Options

[wineds]

Hands down! thats a big statement! I bought my screen about 3 years ago. Don't know if you were around then, I believe I did well at the time. I would love to see a comparison, but not in a small sample comparison, a whole screen comparison (brighter is not always better).
How much would a 110inch Evolution 3D 16:9 cost incl. delivery (all up)? Can this screen be seen anywhere in melbourne?
People have complained about quality of product and service from direct sellers, that's what I was getting at. I was wasn't having a dig at you. My friend bought a 106inch screen from a wholesaler on ebay last week and it was delivered with stuff missing from the box.

Like I said earlier I'm not bagging your product, I've read a lot of hardship stories about people who have bought over the net.
I'm simply saying invest in a good screen and according to you , you have a good screen
More power to you brother!

P.S.You shouldn't be so biased
the novares isn't such a bad screen

Just ask for a sample of the evo3d fabric to be sent to you so you can compare for yourself!

[tommo6]

should i go scope or 16.9 with a new screen ?
please could someone list the pros and cons ?
and how do i achive scope with a TW 2000

it will be mostly foxtel, Movies, Gaming and Normal tv...in that order, with most being foxtel....but it could change with a projector in the house...we may go more for movies now we have the big screen experiance.......Im looking forward to friday night footie the most.....

[collinhack]

I should warn you that foxtel looks pretty crap on the "big screen". Hopefully it'll improve with HD foxtel.

All foxtel programming is 16:9 (or 4:3), so a scope screen will not help there.

[norpus]

I should warn you that foxtel looks pretty crap on the "big screen". Hopefully it'll improve with HD foxtel.

All foxtel programming is 16:9 (or 4:3), so a scope screen will not help there.

Well I guess thats one reason not to go 150"?
Foxtel does improve with a good scaler btw
I'd imagine even Foxtel HD may be compressed a bit and might even need a hand. We'll see

[norpus]

I should warn you that foxtel looks pretty crap on the "big screen". Hopefully it'll improve with HD foxtel.

All foxtel programming is 16:9 (or 4:3), so a scope screen will not help there.

Well I guess thats one reason not to go 150"? (unless seated a long way back)
Foxtel does improve with a good scaler btw
I'd imagine even Foxtel HD may be compressed a bit and might even need a hand. We'll see

[collinhack]

Well, in 16:9 I'm only seeing it at 110-120" diagonal, and it's watchable, but pretty poor.

Would like a VP50pro, and if it wasn't for the advent of the Oppo983 and more HD tv sources, I'd be tempted/eventually get one. At the moment I'm hoping that HDTV will provide a medium term solution.

In the meantime, I'll generally watch my TV on an LCD or Plasma*





















*Purchase pending ;-)

[tommo6]

ok so hopefully foxtel will be better when the HD comes out......so ill stick to the bravia for foxtel for now, and use the PJ for movies..and gaming....I reckon a 16 x 9 will be the go for me......

[Blackwash]

Sorry to inform you but our Evolution3D vinyl beats the Novares vinyl hands down in every way. I know this since I have all the fabrics here and can easily demonstrate this to anyone who wants to see actual 'proof' of a brighter and superior image.

Evolution3D is a close second place to Studiotek130, and to be blunt, there are no Australian made screens that come too close to Evolution3D!

The only reason you might have paid 2 grand+ for your screen is because you have a retailer marking up the wholesale price almost 100%. Our 100 inch 16:9 Majestic with Evo3D, velour frame (the super deluxe model (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) was priced at $2,449 (then $1999 later) when we were wholesaling. (dealer price around $1000X) Now we sell direct to the end user at wholesale prices and have not looked back since (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If you would like a sample please let me know. I guarantee the results will have you smiling from ear to ear.

I know you are trying for commercial sales, but this kind of post really bugs me.

Your screen may well be close to a Studiotek. But so what?

Are you saying that because a Stewart screen costs $8K here, yours is a bargain at $2K because it performs almost as well?

If so, using your logic, we should then compare your $2K screen to a $200 one from eBay.

I doubt 99% of people could tell the difference between two equivalently gained white screens.

As a screen/projector slut, I've done way too many tests with various screens and projectors. My conclusion is that unity gain white screens are pretty much the same. I would certainly not pay the extra for a Studiotek or one of yours. I'd just buy a 1.0 gain screen from anywhere that seems reliable.

If, however, you need a specialized screen such as one that helps black levels in ambient light (Firehawk) or increases brightness (Highpower) then by all means pay the extra.

But, getting back to my original point, Mr OzTheatre does not sell such specialized screens. He sells plain 1.0 gain white screens.

And just as a similar Stewart is a ripoff at $8K, so is his at $2K.



Disclaimer!

I own a Stewart Firehawk. I don't think it is worth what they cost here, but it was possibly worth what I paid for it.

[Franin]

What stewart screen cost $8k ?

[oztheatre]

[quote name='Raider61' date='May 7 2008, 10:42 PM' post='1053606']
I know you are trying for commercial sales, but this kind of post really bugs me.

Seems like someones having an off night :rolleyes:

Your screen may well be close to a Studiotek. But so what?

Are you saying that because a Stewart screen costs $8K here, yours is a bargain at $2K because it performs almost as well?

If so, using your logic, we should then compare your $2K screen to a $200 one from eBay.

No, our screens are 1K not 2K but thanks for your.... input. Stewart screens start at about $3800 here not $8,000 (where on earth do you get your info from?)

There is little to no point in comparing higher gain screens with lower gain 'ebay screens' for obvious reasons.

1.0 gain screens are always going to look rather dull. Its been proven time and time again that 1.1 to 1.4 is the sweet
spot for home theatre screens. This is why studiotek130 is their most popular fabric and Evo3D is our most popular fabric

I doubt 99% of people could tell the difference between two equivalently gained white screens.

I agree, so what's your point?

As a screen/projector slut, I've done way too many tests with various screens and projectors. My conclusion is that unity gain white screens are pretty much the same. I would certainly not pay the extra for a Studiotek or one of yours. I'd just buy a 1.0 gain screen from anywhere that seems reliable.

That's your call and you're entitled to your opinion, even though you're statement makes no sense at all.
What you're saying is you're happy with your 1.0 gain dull screen and would not spend the extra to buy
a brighter and better quality screen, even if you had the money to do so? Fair enough. I guess it's good to NOT know
what you're missing out on...

If, however, you need a specialized screen such as one that helps black levels in ambient light (Firehawk) or increases brightness (Highpower) then by all means pay the extra.

Again, this is your opinion and yours only. Most home theatres if setup correctly do not deal with ambient light anyway, so the whole exercise of grey screens is pointless as far as I'm concerned. What if that extra was $8,000???

But, getting back to my original point, Mr OzTheatre does not sell such specialized screens. He sells plain 1.0 gain white screens.

Again, incorrect (nice dig at me thoughh). Our fabrics start at 1.1 gain and move upward from there. 1.1 diamond, 1.16 Acoustic vision, 1.26 Evolution3D and 1.5 rear pro vinyl

And just as a similar Stewart is a ripoff at $8K, so is his at $2K.

Yet again, incorrect. Our 150 inch Majestic with Evo3D and Velour frame is $1449...
100 incher is $989... not sure where you're $2,000 price is from.... nice chatting with you though :rolleyes: ....

[Chesty]

Moral of the story....

If you plan on slagging some one then it might pay to get your facts correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[SimonNo10]

Rather than start a new thread thought I would revise an older one. Would just like to mention that I purchased a 100" fixed screen with Evolution 3D material about 3 months ago and had a slight problem with the material after transit. Basically had a few verticle lines which were visible with anything blue or white. After a short wait I received my replacement Evolution 3D screen material (improved I've been told) and I'm blown away at the picture quality I'm now seeing. Was very easy to install and now I'm really happy with the result. I'm currently using a Sanyo Z4 projector but watching BDs is awesome and cannot wait until I can afford an 1080p projector like the Epson TW2000. So Richard you weren't lying when you said the material had been improved it's fantastic and I appreciate the replacement. Was well worth the wait. Thank you.

This post has been edited by SimonNo10: May 26 2008, 06:23 PM

[oztheatre]

Rather than start a new thread thought I would revise an older one. Would just like to mention that I purchased a 100" fixed screen with Evolution 3D material about 3 months ago and had a slight problem with the material after transit. Basically had a few verticle lines which were visible with anything blue or white. After a short wait I received my replacement Evolution 3D screen material (improved I've been told) and I'm blown away at the picture quality I'm now seeing. Was very easy to install and now I'm really happy with the result. I'm currently using a Sanyo Z4 projector but watching BDs is awesome and cannot wait until I can afford an 1080p projector like the Epson TW2000. So Richard you weren't lying when you said the material had been improved it's fantastic and I appreciate the replacement. Was well worth the wait. Thank you.

Glad you're enjoying it Simon. It's certainly been further refined, which we did not think possible but with some slight variations in the mix it came out perfect.

[Riv39]

I too have one of OZ theatre's new majestic screens and can also vouch for it excellence. I'm using an Epson TW2000 PJ onto a 110" 16:9 screen with a throw distance of approx 4.5m.

Well done Richard a truly outstanding product!

[Davidian]

Hi all,

I would have started my own thread but apparently I don't have permission to do so - so I'm sorry for the hijack!

Anyway, my wife's boss recently gave me an Epson 100" screen, he got it with some projectors he bought but didn't need the screens. I don't think these are fantatstic screens, but it'll be better thn a bed sheet and/or lumpy plasterwall! Now, the only thing I haven't got is a projector - have been wanting one for a while, so now I have a catalyst! I currently have a Yamaha receiver, Samsung 46" LCD and a PS3 in my home theatre setup, so looking for a 1080P projector. budget wise I'd rather sit between $2k-$3k, so I'm not sure how that sits in wih what's available.

I'm not terribly up to date with projectors, the last time I looked at them DLP projoectors were pretty new and anything above 1024x768 res was fairly expensive!

Would appreciate your advice, please be gentle as I'm new around here!

[tommo6]

Hi all,

I would have started my own thread but apparently I don't have permission to do so - so I'm sorry for the hijack!

Anyway, my wife's boss recently gave me an Epson 100" screen, he got it with some projectors he bought but didn't need the screens. I don't think these are fantatstic screens, but it'll be better thn a bed sheet and/or lumpy plasterwall! Now, the only thing I haven't got is a projector - have been wanting one for a while, so now I have a catalyst! I currently have a Yamaha receiver, Samsung 46" LCD and a PS3 in my home theatre setup, so looking for a 1080P projector. budget wise I'd rather sit between $2k-$3k, so I'm not sure how that sits in wih what's available.

I'm not terribly up to date with projectors, the last time I looked at them DLP projoectors were pretty new and anything above 1024x768 res was fairly expensive!

Would appreciate your advice, please be gentle as I'm new around here!

ive recntly got into Pj and HT, I went for an epson TW 2000, its a bit over the $3600 from most places, or a TW 1000 for about $2800...

[collinhack]

My researches also suggested the TW2000 for mid-$3000 is very hard to beat, and comes with 3.5 years local warranty.

If you want want, post in the TW2000 group buy thread as you can still get a very good deal there, just post and Prior (Chris) will get in contact with you and let you know the details and price.

[Blackwash]

Moral of the story....

If you plan on slagging some one then it might pay to get your facts correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'd forgotten about my earlier spray. As is obvious, it was a late night spray.

As is also obvious it hit a sore point.

Fortunately, the same confluence of apres work drinks and an internet connection has given me the opportunity to respond.

So, for the dummies, let me reiterate.

Richard (OzTheatre) is a constant and passionate advocate of the screens he sells. This what I would expect. And I have no doubt that the screens he sells are very good. Just as good as other well designed and manufactured screens.

But I do have a problem with him constantly flogging his screens as if they are somehow special.

Here's a repeat from earlier in this thread:

ME: I doubt 99% of people could tell the difference between two equivalently gained white screens.

Richard: I agree, so what's your point?

ME: As a screen/projector slut, I've done way too many tests with various screens and projectors. My conclusion is that unity gain white screens are pretty much the same. I would certainly not pay the extra for a Studiotek or one of yours. I'd just buy a 1.0 gain screen from anywhere that seems reliable.

RICHARD: That's your call and you're entitled to your opinion, even though you're statement makes no sense at all.
What you're saying is you're happy with your 1.0 gain dull screen and would not spend the extra to buy
a brighter and better quality screen, even if you had the money to do so?

Slight gap in responses...

ME: Silly me. I thought I'd made it obvious that I have coughed up the extra bucks for a screen that does make a difference (Firehawk). And that my point is that you are selling screens at a premium price that do not make any difference.

And I'd love to debate your final point, which was about grey screens.

RICHARD: Again, this is your opinion and yours only. Most home theatres if setup correctly do not deal with ambient light anyway, so the whole exercise of grey screens is pointless as far as I'm concerned. What if that extra was $8,000???

You are right, I do have a grey screen.

I believe you do not sell them youself.

Fortunately, I am not completely alone. Joe Kane, the lad who helped start the ISF, recommends grey screens. I believe he even designed mine.

[AGP]

Raider61 I have a Firehawk as well
My dealer recommended a gray screen and only uses Stewart screens, He spent quiet a few hours showing me why gray screens work better with light walls or light leaking from outside the room. {It helps when you have 3 dedicated rooms to do this}
I trust him a 100% And have seen a few of his $300,000.00 home cinema setups and the picture and sound are clearer and cleaner then the cinema.
From the small amount of time I have had viewing different screens my opinion is
1- Dedicated room dark walls, full light control white screen.
2 Dedicated room light walls,Grey screen
3 Family room always some light,Grey screen
4 ISF calibration [worth every cent] if you want to get the best picture your screen,projector and player can give. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Riv39]

Raider61 I have a Firehawk as well
My dealer recommended a gray screen and only uses Stewart screens, He spent quiet a few hours showing me why gray screens work better with light walls or light leaking from outside the room. {It helps when you have 3 dedicated rooms to do this}
I trust him a 100% And have seen a few of his $300,000.00 home cinema setups and the picture and sound are clearer and cleaner then the cinema.
From the small amount of time I have had viewing different screens my opinion is
1- Dedicated room dark walls, full light control white screen.
2 Dedicated room light walls,Grey screen
3 Family room always some light,Grey screen
4 ISF calibration [worth every cent] if you want to get the best picture your screen,projector and player can give. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have a 1.25 gain white screen in my lounge room which has a white ceiling and walls that are by no means dark and I find the PQ excellent, just like watching a oversize flat screen TV (but better). You are right that light leakage can affect the PQ but it has to be a significant amount of light IMO.