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[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

diesel, on Feb 1 2009, 06:53 PM, said:

If you have a NAS sharing files around the house to various devices, streaming is  better option than having to copy files all the time

Right, so better as in freezing, no fast fwd, can't stop and start in same place later, poor image quality due to streamed media not being enhanced by PS3...that sort of better?...it takes about 25seconds to copy a 700mb movie???

[blackraven]

i have a buffalo NAS drive attached via ethernet  to my wireless router - the buffalo doesn't have DLNA, but the router does UPnP (can't remember if that makes a difference) can the ps3 read the buffalo via wireless and play the files without the host pc turning on?

[jmtheo]

Mopar_or_NoCar, on Feb 1 2009, 02:39 PM, said:

Guys,

How come no-one is copying the files to the HDD 1st? The PS3 will clean up and upscale the images to look much much better! I do it all the tim ewith eps or TopGear from the UK, movies etc all look much much better when copied over 1st, PS3 WON'T apply any magic to a file it is streaming, only files it has stored locally. It also allows for a much smoother playback, fast fwd rewind etc. No lag No delays. Just delete file when your finished watching if space is an issue. I gave up on Wi-Fi, ran a Cat-5 30m outside and downstairs to office to Gig switch now it flys, copies movies in no time....Streaming is for fishes!!

Um, I'm pretty sure the PS3 does do it's thang on streamed content...

[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

jmtheo, on Feb 2 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

Um, I'm pretty sure the PS3 does do it's thang on streamed content...

No it doesn't, Only On Stored Local Content, it would slow down the FPS to stream/enhance/display. Have tired it many times on different formats incl .mkv's and the replay from HDD is always better ...100% Gaurenteed. I have a Pioneer LX508a 1080P panel with HDMI from PS3 and you can tell staraight away, especially on low-res avi's from tv shows. Copy Watch Delete...much better!!

[Dr X]

MOPAR_or_NoCar, on Feb 3 2009, 12:00 PM, said:

No it doesn't, Only On Stored Local Content, it would slow down the FPS to stream/enhance/display. Have tired it many times on different formats incl .mkv's and the replay from HDD is always better ...100% Gaurenteed. I have a Pioneer LX508a 1080P panel with HDMI from PS3 and you can tell staraight away, especially on low-res avi's from tv shows. Copy Watch Delete...much better!!

I don't think that's right. My PS3 is definitely upscaling DVD vob files to 1080P.

[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

Classic1977, on Feb 3 2009, 02:14 PM, said:

I don't think that's right. My PS3 is definitely upscaling DVD vob files to 1080P.

It's in the specs, it's mentioned on the TVersity website, I have seen it with my own eyes. sorry but 'i think' and 'I reckon' aren't worth diddly. Try it and see. I'm sure on the PS3 au website it is mentioned in the details of the last 5-6 updates. Try it and see, I never said your not getting 1080P that is done by the streamer during conversion or from the SD DVD your playing locally in the drive.

[Dr X]

MOPAR_or_NoCar, on Feb 3 2009, 02:22 PM, said:

It's in the specs, it's mentioned on the TVersity website, I have seen it with my own eyes. sorry but 'i think' and 'I reckon' aren't worth diddly. Try it and see. I'm sure on the PS3 au website it is mentioned in the details of the last 5-6 updates. Try it and see, I never said your not getting 1080P that is done by the streamer during conversion or from the SD DVD your playing locally in the drive.

I'll have a browse on the TVersity website. Don't know where it is on the website in particular do you?

How can I try it and see? Try what? See what?

I don't have any option in Tversity to upscale do I? I certainly havn't set it. If it is upscaling to 1080P then surely it must be in the TVersity settings somewhere? I have turned transcoding completely off.

Edited by Classic1977, 03 February 2009 - 03:06 PM.

[Dr X]

If you have transcoding ON then I suggest you turn it OFF and then try your comparison again.

[diesel]

blackraven, on Feb 2 2009, 01:28 AM, said:

i have a buffalo NAS drive attached via ethernet  to my wireless router - the buffalo doesn't have DLNA, but the router does UPnP (can't remember if that makes a difference) can the ps3 read the buffalo via wireless and play the files without the host pc turning on?

If your Router is left on, I can't see why not.

I do this all the time with playing files off my NAS.

EDIT: Thinking about it some more, the PS3 needs a media player like Winamp, TVersity or WMP to play files doesn't it?

Edited by diesel, 03 February 2009 - 08:14 PM.

[DaveH1]

Mopar_or_NoCar, on Feb 1 2009, 04:39 PM, said:

Guys,

How come no-one is copying the files to the HDD 1st? The PS3 will clean up and upscale the images to look much much better! I do it all the tim ewith eps or TopGear from the UK, movies etc all look much much better when copied over 1st, PS3 WON'T apply any magic to a file it is streaming, only files it has stored locally. It also allows for a much smoother playback, fast fwd rewind etc. No lag No delays. Just delete file when your finished watching if space is an issue. I gave up on Wi-Fi, ran a Cat-5 30m outside and downstairs to office to Gig switch now it flys, copies movies in no time....Streaming is for fishes!!

Hi Mopar_or_NoCar,

Are you copying over your files from your PC before you play them and then deleting them off after you've watched them?

My 8 year old's and my DVD/HDTV collection is about 1Tb in size and growing fast! Even if I was to upgrade the PS3's HDD, from a storage point of view it's still easier to have all the media files in one collection on the PC where you can edit them and stream them across. Am using TVersity with no playback issues (ie no stuttering, able to FFW and RWD no probs so that's not an issue).

When Play TV was announced I thought how cool is that. Now I wonder if Play TV will be worth it (as opposed to PC tuner cards)? Sounds great if you just want to record a show and watch it later or timeshift etc, but the PS3 isn't going to be able to store a huge amount of HDTV. If you want edit, then do you shift the file across to the PC, edit it and then send it back for viewing? If someone with Play TV could comment on what they do, that would be great...

I can't remember where I read it or heard it, but I thought Sony was talking to Foxtel about using the Play TV box for Foxtel. I think I'd change my mind if that happened.

Cheers, Dave .

[jmtheo]

MOPAR_or_NoCar, on Feb 3 2009, 11:30 AM, said:

No it doesn't, Only On Stored Local Content, it would slow down the FPS to stream/enhance/display. Have tired it many times on different formats incl .mkv's and the replay from HDD is always better ...100% Gaurenteed. I have a Pioneer LX508a 1080P panel with HDMI from PS3 and you can tell staraight away, especially on low-res avi's from tv shows. Copy Watch Delete...much better!!

Sorry mate, checked it tonight using 'PS3 Media Server' (no transcoding) and the PS3 is definitely upscaling my streamed .vob and .mpg files.

Having a 110"-ish HD projected image makes it very easy to spot the difference between upscaled and non-upscaled video.

[50MXE20]

diesel, on Feb 3 2009, 06:52 PM, said:

EDIT: Thinking about it some more, the PS3 needs a media player like Winamp, TVersity or WMP to play files doesn't it?

Yes.

[mattls]

Well i started using ps3mediaserver and it solved the ff/rew problems!

[Dr X]

mattls, on Feb 4 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

Well i started using ps3mediaserver and it solved the ff/rew problems!

Great to hear, thanks. Going to try it myself tonight.

[Doobsy]

What are the Mac users using for a PS3 media server?

Is Media Tomb the only option available still?

[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

Classic1977, on Feb 3 2009, 04:01 PM, said:

I'll have a browse on the TVersity website. Don't know where it is on the website in particular do you?

How can I try it and see? Try what? See what?

I don't have any option in TVersity to upscale do I? I certainly haven't set it. If it is upscaling to 1080P then surely it must be in the TVersity settings somewhere? I have turned transcoding completely off.

The upscaling is set when you decide what screen size you want the image to be same with pictures, 576 = SD , 720 = semi HD & 1080 = True HD. The transcoding is something completely different.

Thanks for the tip on using the PS3Media server, it is way better than TVersity, nothing doesn't seem to work on it. I have a cat5 running from a dual core pc and it works great. The 'enhancement' is performed by the PS3 when the file it is playing back is stored locally, I never said anything about upscaling, my Pioneer Plasma does it internally also, so does my Yamaha amp. Go through the settings in the PS3 and find the enhancements I mean. They are listed on the AUPS3 website. In previous updates.

[Dr X]

MOPAR_or_NoCar, on Feb 5 2009, 06:32 AM, said:

The upscaling is set when you decide what screen size you want the image to be same with pictures, 576 = SD , 720 = semi HD & 1080 = True HD. The transcoding is something completely different.

Thanks for the tip on using the PS3Media server, it is way better than TVersity, nothing doesn't seem to work on it. I have a cat5 running from a dual core pc and it works great. The 'enhancement' is performed by the PS3 when the file it is playing back is stored locally, I never said anything about upscaling, my Pioneer Plasma does it internally also, so does my Yamaha amp. Go through the settings in the PS3 and find the enhancements I mean. They are listed on the AUPS3 website. In previous updates.

Sorry but you did mention upscaling. To quote you "The PS3 will clean up and upscale the images to look much much better".

I have all PS3 processing (noise reduction etc) turned off anyway. I prefer the PS3 to upscale rather than my Pioneer Kuro.

Edited by Classic1977, 05 February 2009 - 09:53 AM.

[jmtheo]

Classic1977, on Feb 5 2009, 08:52 AM, said:

Sorry but you did mention upscaling. To quote you "The PS3 will clean up and upscale the images to look much much better".

I have all PS3 processing (noise reduction etc) turned off anyway. I prefer the PS3 to upscale rather than my Pioneer Kuro.

I also turn off all the 'enhancement' options  

They make the image softer, which I don't like at all.

EDIT

Going back to the original reason I posted, I will state that the PS3 does apply it's processing to streamed content.

Edited by jmtheo, 05 February 2009 - 10:18 AM.

[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

jmtheo, on Feb 5 2009, 11:05 AM, said:

I also turn off all the 'enhancement' options  

They make the image softer, which I don't like at all.

EDIT

Going back to the original reason I posted, I will state that the PS3 does apply it's processing to streamed content.

...and going back to mine, It only enhances images stored locally be they pics or movies. I doesn't alter anything 'on the fly'.

[rfa]

Doobsy, on Feb 4 2009, 11:44 PM, said:

What are the Mac users using for a PS3 media server?

Is Media Tomb the only option available still?

ps3mediaserver runs win, mac* & linux:

http://code.google.c.../downloads/list

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* intel only

[balattack]

Configured streaming with Windows media player 11 on XP via wireless and works fine.... apart from a few minor DLNA errors when it is trying to synch with my laptop to get the full list of songs (which it eventually does). When it plays music or videos does not skip at all, very happy at this point

[jmtheo]

MOPAR_or_NoCar, on Feb 8 2009, 07:54 AM, said:

...and going back to mine, It only enhances images stored locally be they pics or movies. I doesn't alter anything 'on the fly'.

Wrong.

Maybe you could explain further what you mean by enhance. My PS3 can apply block, frame, and mosquito noise filters and is upscaling 576 line streamed video to HD resolutions 'on the fly' via my wireless set-up. I would call that 'enhancement', although in my view the noise filters don't enhance.

I am aware of a colour correction technique applied to DVD video playback only (and some BD), but other than this, I know of no other black magic. Please elaborate if you do.

[ozpanda]

Anyone have any trouble playing back 7HD files? Shows such as BROTHERS AND SISTERS, 24, CRIMINAL MINDS etc that I recorded last week, that are HD shows, refuse to play back on my PS3 via TVersity and PS3 media server.

They were saved in MPG format with Web Scheduler Pro running on XP. Should I be using one of the other file formats instead?

Shows recorded on other channels on the same nights all play fine.

Frustrating!

[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

jmtheo, on Feb 9 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

Wrong.

Maybe you could explain further what you mean by enhance. My PS3 can apply block, frame, and mosquito noise filters and is upscaling 576 line streamed video to HD resolutions 'on the fly' via my wireless set-up. I would call that 'enhancement', although in my view the noise filters don't enhance.

I am aware of a colour correction technique applied to DVD video playback only (and some BD), but other than this, I know of no other black magic. Please elaborate if you do.

WRONG!

It doesn't alter anything 'on the fly' only enhancements are used when media stored locally is played back from the HDD.

...beginning to see why you would use the Hagar as an avatar.....!!!

Edited by MOPAR_or_NoCar, 09 February 2009 - 10:41 PM.

[jmtheo]

MOPAR_or_NoCar, on Feb 9 2009, 09:40 PM, said:

WRONG!

It doesn't alter anything 'on the fly' only enhancements are used when media stored locally is played back from the HDD.

...beginning to see why you would use the Hagar as an avatar.....!!!

He he, it's more about nationality but there may or may not be other similarities depending on who you talk to

Look, my image is absolutely being affected by the PS3 video settings I apply to it. I toggle the settings on/off and there is definitely a change.

Come on man, maybe you just can't see the difference on your display??

EDIT - What firmware version are you running?? Just occurred to me that these streamed video options were only added to the later firmware updates...

Edited by jmtheo, 10 February 2009 - 09:57 AM.