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#676 simedog

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:19 PM

Geez, that $200 install fee kills it for me. The pricing of the channels isn't bad, nor the IQ2 @ $10/mo. Why though is the IQ1 STILL $14.95 for existing members (and worse still $5 for new members) verses $10 for the IQ2 (after throwing down $200 to swap it over which I could bloody well do myself)?

#677 nagelixin

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:20 PM

$200 install for IQ2

Whereas the current promo for Iq1 is $5 install. Pffttt


I would sign up today, if they waived the install fee. Just courier out me the box.

#678 loony

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:22 PM

View Postsimedog, on May 19 2008, 01:19 PM, said:

Why though is the IQ1 STILL $14.95 for existing members (and worse still $5 for new members) verses $10 for the IQ2 (after throwing down $200 to swap it over which I could bloody well do myself)?

They want people on the IQ2

If you have the IQ2 you may be more enticed to get HD channels not to mention if you have an IQ1 and realise you can save $5 per month by getting an IQ2 without realising it will cost you $200 to do so, foxtel wins

#679 Hosko

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:23 PM

Current Platinum is 105.95.

HD Platinium (includes HD iQ2) 130.90

So the HD section is worth $25

My Sport and another package is 55.90

My Sport and another package + HD Complete + iQ2 is 80.85

So the HD portion of that is $25

What's the incentive to go onto Platinum you get no discount and at the end of the year no free HD Box Office.

#680 Hosko

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:26 PM

View Postnagelixin, on May 19 2008, 12:20 PM, said:

$200 install for IQ2

Whereas the current promo for Iq1 is $5 install. Pffttt


I would sign up today, if they waived the install fee. Just courier out me the box.
Foxtel always taxes the early adopters. Remember $399 access fee for the iQ when it was launched. Once they sucked the early adopters dry they lowered the price.

#681 djbigk

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:26 PM

Hmm... seems dubious to me.....

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FOXTEL HD+* consists of a new set-top-box (the FOXTEL iQ2) and new High Definition channels – supported by FOXTEL's exceptional customer care.


#682 wakeboardandy13

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:29 PM

I just signed up.. will only cost me $5 more a month then what I am paying now for iq2 and sports HD... and $200 upgrade fee :(

yeah I know it will probably be free upgrade in a few months but I can't wait that long.. I'm sick off my pixelated sports!!! Install date is sat 14th June...

#683 newgas

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:29 PM

Agree - $200 is over the top. I'll be sitting on the fence for a while.

OK, lets say we take up this offer and enjoy the 5 channels in HD.

What about all the other standard channels?

I bet you they Picture Quality will be just as poor as it is now (especially for owners of large flat screens)

Maybe the quality will be worse, as more bandwidth will be required for the new HD channels. I did read on the HD blog that more bandwidth will be available in 2009.

#684 addenwood

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:30 PM

If you look on the actual Fotel HD site there is still no official link to the pricing and they are still encouraging ppl to register their interest!!!!!!

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:31 PM

$170 plus $15/month to stop the magic eye working...weren't we supposed to be pleasantly surprised by the offer for multi-room?  Has the price for that changed?  I thought it was about $15 a month anyway

#686 djbigk

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:33 PM

Am I wrong in thinking that (exluding the $200 upgrade* fee) it will now be cheaper to have iQ2 than iQ1 if you have a single outlet and aren't on platinum?

* - Upgrade fee my a55!

For the record, I'm currently paying around $107 for two outlets (one iQ box) for all channels except movies (never watched them when we were on platinum).

#687 loony

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:36 PM

View Postdoodlefeatures, on May 19 2008, 01:31 PM, said:

$170 plus $15/month to stop the magic eye working...weren't we supposed to be pleasantly surprised by the offer for multi-room?  Has the price for that changed?  I thought it was about $15 a month anyway

How do you get $170?

I am dissapointed there is  nothing for multi room too

View Postaddenwood, on May 19 2008, 01:30 PM, said:

If you look on the actual Fotel HD site there is still no official link to the pricing and they are still encouraging ppl to register their interest!!!!!!

I noticed this too.
Also on the pricing page there are no lonks to the rest of the site.

View Postdjbigk, on May 19 2008, 01:33 PM, said:

Am I wrong in thinking that (exluding the $200 upgrade* fee) it will now be cheaper to have iQ2 than iQ1 if you have a single outlet and aren't on platinum?

* - Upgrade fee my a55!

For the record, I'm currently paying around $107 for two outlets (one iQ box) for all channels except movies (never watched them when we were on platinum).

Yep, IQ2 is the better deal forgetting about initial cost.

You are on the same package, multi room and IQ as me

Edited by loony, 19 May 2008 - 12:37 PM.


#688 QuozL

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:36 PM

View Postwakeboardandy13, on May 19 2008, 12:29 PM, said:

I just signed up.. will only cost me $5 more a month then what I am paying now for iq2 and sports HD... and $200 upgrade fee :(

yeah I know it will probably be free upgrade in a few months but I can't wait that long.. I'm sick off my pixelated sports!!! Install date is sat 14th June...
What section did you select to sign up to get your install date? On the phone to them now

Cheers Al

Edited by Al Walker, 19 May 2008 - 12:37 PM.


#689 doodlefeatures

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:39 PM

View Postloony, on May 19 2008, 12:36 PM, said:

How do you get $170?

I am dissapointed there is  nothing for multi room too



I noticed this too.
Also on the pricing page there are no lonks to the rest of the site.
300 install less 130 platinum fee for the first month

#690 jsk38

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:39 PM

So you can't get IQ2 without HD?

#691 simedog

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:39 PM

I just think it's ludicrous (amongst other colourful words) that they offer new customers the $5 IQ1 box (I don't care about the $5 install or cheap first month as I got a good enough deal when I signed up) but existing customers are still slugged $14.95 for the IQ1.  Then again, perhaps everything I've read on here in recent months about Foxtel's apathy towards existing customers is obviously proving to be more fact than fiction.

#692 Hosko

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:40 PM

I notice when you put in an expression of interest your name gets added to the loop of 19 other names at the top. If you reload the page it goes back to the original 19 names. Guess its marketing crap to try to make you hurry and get in fast.

#693 loony

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:41 PM

View Postjsk38, on May 19 2008, 01:39 PM, said:

So you can't get IQ2 without HD?

No
You can have just the IQ2 if you want.

#694 Dr Worm

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:45 PM

The blog is asking me for a username and password to enter!!

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:45 PM

View Postaddenwood, on May 19 2008, 12:30 PM, said:

If you look on the actual Fotel HD site there is still no official link to the pricing and they are still encouraging ppl to register their interest!!!!!!
I hope they are looking at sites like this the gauge public reaction.

Personally the channel costs are fine to me. As someone who paid upfront for an iQ the $399 bucks I'd prefer a better deal on the iQ2, perhaps $5 a month instead of the $10. However I can live with that. The $170 access/installation fee to upgrade leaves a taste of faecal matter in my mouth.

#696 loony

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:53 PM

View PostHosko, on May 19 2008, 01:45 PM, said:

I hope they are looking at sites like this the gauge public reaction.

Personally the channel costs are fine to me. As someone who paid upfront for an iQ the $399 bucks I'd prefer a better deal on the iQ2, perhaps $5 a month instead of the $10. However I can live with that. The $170 access/installation fee to upgrade leaves a taste of faecal matter in my mouth.

So do i

The monthly cost of the IQ2 is fine
The $200 fee will stop me from getting it though

I think the HD channels would be better priced at $5 for one and $10 for both
$20 for a complete HD package sounds alright

#697 loony

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:00 PM

The phone number for HD is 1300 795 388

#698 simedog

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:02 PM

I totally agree with Hosko. The pricing of the channels is fair, and so is the IQ2 monthly price. But $200 to install it? Gimme a break. A few cables (which I already have and are better quality than what would be supplied) to unplug and plug back in, a box to shift and a card to activate... yeh, $200 and probably 15 mins work. What a crock.

#699 Musketeer

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:09 PM

Well the cost of keeping our IQ and replacing the second box with an IQ2 is $10/mth and the cost of adding the complete HD package would be $15/mth. So thats $25 extra per month on top of our current Platinum package to get an extra IQ box and HD (excluding "installation").

What I'm worried about though is losing the current discount we get on Foxtel for bundling on our Telstra bill (about $13/mth). This is an old discount deal that does not exist any more - now I think they just give you some free calls or something. I noticed when we added the IQ1 box, that each month we got charged the standard $10 per month with no discount - the discount only continued to apply to our old existing Foxtel Platinum + Multiroom charges.

If by getting IQ2 and Platinum HD we somehow reset our Foxtel package and lose the 10% Telstra discount, then that would be yet another $13/mth extra just to get IQ2/HD. So $25+$13 = $38/mth extra. That would NOT be a good result!

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 01:09 PM

View Postsimedog, on May 19 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

I totally agree with Hosko. The pricing of the channels is fair, and so is the IQ2 monthly price. But $200 to install it? Gimme a break. A few cables (which I already have and are better quality than what would be supplied) to unplug and plug back in, a box to shift and a card to activate... yeh, $200 and probably 15 mins work. What a crock.

I doubt the $200 is meant to be for installation costs - seems to me like it's paying for some of the hardware in the IQ2 box, given that it's a 4 tuner HD PVR.  How much do HD PVR's retail for currently?

Though having said that, knowing Foxtel, the box will remain their property at all times.

So yes, it is a rip, but probably not for the reasons most people here are crying foul over.