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[jrisles]

Why should anyone who opts to "pay for tv" pay for something that is provided free of charge on fta anyhow? I mean shouldn't a "pay tv" service be at least the same or better in terms of quality than what is currently being offered by fta? Most of the responses i have read thus far are from existing Pay TV subscribers. But when you consider the relatively low uptake rate of pay tv in this country it is  because pay tv doesn't offer a better quality tv service than is already provided by existing fta tv providers.

Call me niaive but i was stunned to learn that pay tv doesn't already broadcast in hd?? Let me get this right ... they want us to "pay to watch" television at a quality that is sub standard to what is currently being offered on fta? Ahhhh ... ok ... makes sense to me. To charge anyone anything extra is a rort imho. It should just be offered as part of the service. A message to all existing subscribers saying something like "did you know you can now watch this station in HD??"

I mean for those who are lucky enough to have a HD TV can watch the HD equivalent provided by fta stations. The fta providers are not even charging their viewers to watch their stations in HD so why should Foxtel? I mean for goodness sake people are already paying good money to watch their stations.

So to the OP's question ... it is lousy value if you ask me ...

cheers
Jeff

[pcqypcqy]

It probably is lousy value, but I'll be getting it anyway.

Question is, do we have a launch date yet?  All I've heard is mid-08, which by my maths leaves about 7 or 8 weeks (assuming that Foxtel consider the end of June to be mid-08, though you really can't get much more mid than that ).

Knowing how good foxtel are, surely they are going to need several weeks to get IQ2's out to their existing IQ subsribers, let alone people who will upgrade to IQ2 to get HD (which is me), let alone new subscribers.

So assuming they tell us today the exact launch details and ask who will upgrade, figure 2 weeks to send all of that out and get it back, 2 weeks to get organised and get ready to send out, then 2 weeks to post them all out (unless they are going to be really slow and get technicians to install them, though why they would need to - who knows), that doesn't leave too much time to make the end of June deadline.

And considering existing customers haven't heard anything yet, I figure that the day we get the launch details is still a while off...

Any thoughts?

Edited by pcqypcqy, 12 May 2008 - 11:18 AM.

[loony]

pcqypcqy, on May 12 2008, 12:17 PM, said:

It probably is lousy value, but I'll be getting it anyway.

Question is, do we have a launch date yet?

No,
however apparently foxtel is holding a training session on HD for it staff tomorrow..

[pcqypcqy]

loony, on May 12 2008, 12:59 PM, said:

No,
however apparently foxtel is holding a training session on HD for it staff tomorrow..

Subjects on the curriculum:

How to rort customers for moving house (HD version)
How to hype up the launch of HD, but then seriously disappoint
How to not answer the phones to hear the disappointment

[Musketeer]

So, just to check if am I understanding this discussion on Fox HD correctly so far:

* IQ2 will be released. It will cost about the same as IQ1 currently does, but with bigger storage and the capability to display HD if you decide to subscribe to the new HD service. If you get the IQ2, regardless of whether you decide to subscribe to HD or not, you can get access to FB movies in HD.

* IQ1 will now cost no additional $'s on top of your Foxtel subscription, effectively becoming the standard Foxtel box for all future signups.

* The new HD service will be launched offering the 4 HD channels mentioned, plus pass through the FTA's in HD. This will cost an additional amount per month on top of your current subscription - amount not yet revealed. You will have to get the IQ2 box in order to be able to subscribe to and receive HD.

Does this sum up the current thinking?

[DrP]

Sounds right.  Although Foxtel may jack up the standard price to cover the IQ as the standard box.

[Deaf Bhoy]

DrP, on May 12 2008, 02:41 PM, said:

Sounds right.  Although Foxtel may jack up the standard price to cover the IQ as the standard box.

That would jack me off!

[Musketeer]

Deaf Bhoy, on May 12 2008, 04:57 PM, said:

That would jack me off!

Sucks but wouldn't surprise me. In the past they have bumped it up from time to time without necessarily adding anything new.

[MattWinter]

If the current standard foxtel price stayed the same, but the standard box was an iq, fox would actually be pretty good value IMO. That's a big if...

[WAWatcher]

MattWinter, on May 12 2008, 03:35 PM, said:

If the current standard foxtel price stayed the same, but the standard box was an iq, fox would actually be pretty good value IMO. That's a big if...

Details will be revealed Tuesday night.

[hawto]

WAWatcher, on May 12 2008, 10:53 PM, said:

Details will be revealed Tuesday night.

I hope your right this time

[SCAT01]

hawto, on May 13 2008, 08:48 AM, said:

I hope your right this time

Well given his past predictions dont hold your breath.

And I am surprised he dared show his head again around here.

[SCAT01]

Double post

Edited by SCAT01, 13 May 2008 - 09:11 AM.

[Foxtel Fanatic]

Will there be extra content on the new HD channels compared to the standard channels ?


Foxtel HD set for June 2nd launch
Subscription Television
Knowfirst News understands June 2nd is the date Foxtel will commence rolling out its iQ2 and Foxtel HD to customers.

Foxtel is expected to announce the date within the next few days.

Rumours have the iQ2 at $10 rental per month and the suite of channels at $10 per month as well, but as of now, Knowfirst cannot confirm the price.

We’ll have more details as they come to hand.

May 9th 2008 — 5:48 amMark (MJH)

http://report.mediaspy.org/

[DansDans]

Foxtel Fanatic, on May 13 2008, 09:48 AM, said:

Will there be extra content on the new HD channels compared to the standard channels ?


Foxtel HD set for June 2nd launch
Subscription Television
Knowfirst News understands June 2nd is the date Foxtel will commence rolling out its iQ2 and Foxtel HD to customers.

Foxtel is expected to announce the date within the next few days.

Rumours have the iQ2 at $10 rental per month and the suite of channels at $10 per month as well, but as of now, Knowfirst cannot confirm the price.

We’ll have more details as they come to hand.

May 9th 2008 — 5:48 amMark (MJH)

http://report.mediaspy.org/

If thats true, those $10 price wont last for too long - by the time December price rise comes around, they WILL go up

Also, if Foxtel had an RF into the iQ2 that had the ability to decode the FTA SD/HD signals (for us Satellite CANBERRA subs who get no commercial FTA through FOX) then I think I would get HD Foxtel, as I want a PVR, but I want to be able to record Foxtel as well

I suppose it would be something similar to the MyStar

[Wolfhound_2000]

Confirmed again that the local Foxtel reps have a training session tonight on the pricing and packaging.  Will check with them tomorrow and report back if we don't get emails by tomorrow night.

[justin25]

Hopefully details of pricing and launch date will be announced this week then.I for one hope they give iq uses a discount of some sort.And for the people who paid for their iq outright.

[hawto]

Wolfhound_2000, on May 13 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

Confirmed again that the local Foxtel reps have a training session tonight on the pricing and packaging.  Will check with them tomorrow and report back if we don't get emails by tomorrow night.

I am hoping someone can get on here tonight and give us an update of what was said in the meeting today

[Dr Worm]

WAWatcher, on May 12 2008, 10:53 PM, said:

Details will be revealed Tuesday night.

You've only got a couple of hours left of Tuesday night WAWatcher, is this another of your 'non-core' promises???

[justin25]

foxtel video blog 7 is up it is about the new foxtel hd box office must be getting very close to an announcement, three blogs up in two days

Edited by justin25, 16 May 2008 - 05:24 PM.

[ShadySoldier]

justin25, on May 16 2008, 05:18 PM, said:

foxtel video blog 7 is up it is about the new foxtel hd box office must be getting very close to an announcement, three blogs up in two days

Surely that Fleur Fahey is a transexual

[redglare]

On the AFL Footy Show last night, they had a special Foxtel Promotion for new customers.  I can't remember all the details, but it was $5 set up and included IQ for $5/month.  Doesn't reveal much, but seems to be indicative of lower IQ prices to come...

[CCF]

redglare, on May 16 2008, 05:48 PM, said:

On the AFL Footy Show last night, they had a special Foxtel Promotion for new customers.  I can't remember all the details, but it was $5 set up and included IQ for $5/month.  Doesn't reveal much, but seems to be indicative of lower IQ prices to come...

That's the new Foxtel deal;

$5 install
$5 first month Platinum
$5 IQ ongoing

[Wolfhound_2000]

I'm trying all the Foxtel booths I can find to get some more info.  This evening I was told that release was 1-2 weeks away for new customers but existing customers may get in earlier.  I was told Foxtel had booked a public announcement around 22nd or 23rd of this month (that's next week).  

Everyone keeps telling me it is going to be a great deal.  I don't know whether that's true or they got brain washed in the info session on Tuesday - maybe Steve Jobs gave the presentation.  

Take with a grain of salt as my confidence in some of the Foxtel rep's credibility is getting lower.

[CCF]

Wolfhound_2000, on May 16 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

Take with a grain of salt as my confidence in some of the Foxtel rep's credibility is getting lower.

Mate at the end of the day, they aren't allowed to speak until the permission is given. Yourself and anyone else who asks for the information aren't important enough to lose their jobs should they be found out.

The deal is good and existing customers are being looked after and all playing fields are level.

As for the credibility, you've got all walks of life working on the kiosks and it's still a new concept some are still struggling with. Not everyone is a tech-head...

Edited by CCF, 16 May 2008 - 06:39 PM.