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[aafuss]

We have a couple of these in our home-and they have been very good, protected our AV euipment  from surges.

[James Sanders]

Hi All,

This is my first post on DTV, but I regularly read the site for tips and such...

I'm looking at getting a one of the Belkin Pure AV 8 Way Isolators - I found it here http://www.betterit....idproduct=87869 for $151 and $15 postage to Melbourne - which seems like a reasonable price.

But I would like to clarify three things first:

1. I have a Fujitsu PDS4241W plasma which makes a pretty decent buzzing sound sometimes, could this be due to power supply and therefore be helped with a good power board? If you know why the buzzing happens, feel free to let me know...
2. Is this really going to improve picture quality on my plasma?
3. The Belkin has an ADSL/phone in plug and two out plugs. Does this mean that if I plug in a LAN cable from my router that it will work as a router and give me an extra internet LAN plug? Is it 100mbps?

I would really like your help - whenever I ask staff at a Harvey Norman (etc) I never really trust their advice...

Thanks,
James

[Riv39]

James Sanders, on Oct 19 2008, 09:44 PM, said:

Hi All,

This is my first post on DTV, but I regularly read the site for tips and such...

I'm looking at getting a one of the Belkin Pure AV 8 Way Isolators - I found it here http://www.betterit....idproduct=87869 for $151 and $15 postage to Melbourne - which seems like a reasonable price.

But I would like to clarify three things first:

1. I have a Fujitsu PDS4241W plasma which makes a pretty decent buzzing sound sometimes, could this be due to power supply and therefore be helped with a good power board? If you know why the buzzing happens, feel free to let me know...
2. Is this really going to improve picture quality on my plasma?
3. The Belkin has an ADSL/phone in plug and two out plugs. Does this mean that if I plug in a LAN cable from my router that it will work as a router and give me an extra internet LAN plug? Is it 100mbps?

I would really like your help - whenever I ask staff at a Harvey Norman (etc) I never really trust their advice...

Thanks,
James

James
In answer to your questions:

1/ I don't believe the board will do anything for the buzzing on your plasma;

2/ No, the board is for over-voltage/surge (e.g. lightning etc) protection;

3/ No, these outlets provide over-voltage/surge protection for a phone line and have nothing to do with a LAN connection for your PC.  They are meant to protect your ADSL modem or cordless phone etc.  The reason there are two outlets is so that you can protect two devices connected to the one telephone outlet.

Edited by Riv39, 20 October 2008 - 05:00 PM.

[tableturns]

James Sanders, on Oct 19 2008, 06:44 PM, said:

2. Is this really going to improve picture quality on my plasma?

It improved the picture quality on my Sony 50" lcd whether it does the same for your plasma I don't know. They do boast cleaner power, cleaner picture and better audio, didn't notice any difference to the audio.

I bought it because of the unlimited warranty and for the insurance given on items connected to it (my insurance company was a bit hazy when it came to power surges and lightning) and I guess I won't find out how good that insurance is until I to have to claim against it.

Seems like a good price if you do buy it let us know if it improved your picture or fixed the noise from the plasma.

[grantc84]

I think I will defenetly have to get one of these or similar once I get my setup all connected. Im planning on mounting everything up on a shelf on the wall below the tv so there wont be a cabinet to hide it. Anybody use the Belkin Power Consoles?

[unclewhimsy]

I have one of these connected to my SONY 46XLCD I am slightly disappointed to discover that whenever someone in the house turns a light switch on/off I get a sound (and sometimes picture) dropout for a split second. I thought having one of these would fix this problem.

[Riv39]

unclewhimsy, on Oct 22 2008, 09:59 AM, said:

I have one of these connected to my SONY 46XLCD I am slightly disappointed to discover that whenever someone in the house turns a light switch on/off I get a sound (and sometimes picture) dropout for a split second. I thought having one of these would fix this problem.

This sounds like something interfering on the RF (inbuilt digital tuner) side to me not your mains power.  Do you live in a marginal signal area, what is your digital reception generally like?

[unclewhimsy]

Riv39, on Oct 22 2008, 12:22 PM, said:

This sounds like something interfering on the RF (inbuilt digital tuner) side to me not your mains power.  Do you live in a marginal signal area, what is your digital reception generally like?

Digital reception could not be better. 10 out of 10. Happens when viewing through Toppy also. I must admit it's not 'everytime' a switch is used but most times.

[doobie1]

tableturns, on Sep 10 2008, 09:11 PM, said:

The OP was talking about the model no. F9G823au3M. I see CoreComputers sell that one also but at $209.95+$49.95 courier to WA it's a bit pricy. Anyone found one in WA at a better price?

Just saw this price for F9G823au2M ($95) and under $20 post to perth.
http://www.mtechcomp...roducts_id=1800
http://www.mtechcomp...au/shipping.php

[tableturns]

doobie1, on Nov 3 2008, 08:40 PM, said:

Just saw this price for F9G823au2M ($95) and under $20 post to perth.
http://www.mtechcomp...roducts_id=1800
http://www.mtechcomp...au/shipping.php

No this is a different model "3M" is the Pure AV with an aluminium casing http://catalog.belki...ction_Id=207103 the "2M" is the Gold? series. Slight difference in number big difference in product.

Edit: add web link

Edited by tableturns, 13 November 2008 - 05:42 AM.

[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

I have had one of the large alloy bodied models for a few years now, relative works for Belkin!!, the first thing I noticed was the 50Hz hum was gone from my powered Sub!!..bloody awesome bit of kit, can't recommend them enough, the insurance is legit, if damaged they will replace everything attached.

[brake]

Hey guys, all these technical questions, i feel like a dimwit asking this but:

About those surge cubes (link at bottom of post) do i plug my current surge protect into the cube, then the cube into the wall? because the instructions for the surge protector (4 plug belkin one) says it should only ever be plugged directly into the wall with no leads adaptors or extensions.

Also what happens if i plug a regular power board (non surge protector) into the surge cube then the cube to the wall? what leve of protection will that give?

Thanks a bunch from newbie tying to learn :/

link to the surge cubes:
http://web.belkin.co...amp;search=cube

Edited by brake, 06 February 2009 - 02:58 PM.

[brake]

brake, on Feb 6 2009, 02:44 PM, said:

Hey guys, all these technical questions, i feel like a dimwit asking this but:

About those surge cubes (link at bottom of post) do i plug my current surge protect into the cube, then the cube into the wall? because the instructions for the surge protector (4 plug belkin one) says it should only ever be plugged directly into the wall with no leads adaptors or extensions.

Also what happens if i plug a regular power board (non surge protector) into the surge cube then the cube to the wall? what leve of protection will that give?

Thanks a bunch from newbie tying to learn :/

link to the surge cubes:
http://web.belkin.co...amp;search=cube

anyone? thanks....

[Black Dawg Down]

brake, on Feb 6 2009, 03:44 PM, said:

Also what happens if i plug a regular power board (non surge protector) into the surge cube then the cube to the wall? what leve of protection will that give?

All I know is Belkin will not cover any damages if you don't plug the board directly into the wall.

[shrek]

brake, on Feb 6 2009, 03:44 PM, said:

Hey guys, all these technical questions, i feel like a dimwit asking this but:

About those surge cubes (link at bottom of post) do i plug my current surge protect into the cube, then the cube into the wall? because the instructions for the surge protector (4 plug belkin one) says it should only ever be plugged directly into the wall with no leads adaptors or extensions.

Also what happens if i plug a regular power board (non surge protector) into the surge cube then the cube to the wall? what leve of protection will that give?

Thanks a bunch from newbie tying to learn :/

link to the surge cubes:
http://web.belkin.co...amp;search=cube

If, say, you connect a 4 way powerboard to a surge cube and have all 4 components on, the surge cube might not be able to handle a surge/ spike if it is bad enough.

I dare say that Belkin probably wouldn't honor the warranty either.

[DR.ZOIDBERG]

Whats the best place / cheapest to buy a Belkin PureAV Surge Boards these days?? After the 4 Board and possible the 6 Board as well

[ditroia]

Got mine from here:

http://www.techbuy.c.../F9A623AU2M.asp

Good Store.

Found using http://www.staticice.com.au/index.html

Cheers

Dave

[MOPAR_or_NoCar]

Brake, I live in the Sydney (The Broke State) and the huge blackout that shut down the whole city is a clear sign our power isn't to be trusted or being maintained properly as that costs money!...buy a 8 port model, yep they cost a lot, but its cheap insurance to power spikes and surges, I would hate to think of the damage bill from power surges when they restored power last week!! The cost also has built in insurance also.

[DR.ZOIDBERG]

Is this ok to do with the Belkin PureAV surge protectors?

Can you add an extension lead to make the Belkin PureAV cord reach your destination as most only have a 2m cord (1 has a 3m cord but I dont have that one).

Would this do anything to the protection etc??

Hope to hear from someone soon

Zoidy

[Riv39]

DR.ZOIDBERG, on Apr 14 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

Is this ok to do with the Belkin PureAV surge protectors?

Can you add an extension lead to make the Belkin PureAV cord reach your destination as most only have a 2m cord (1 has a 3m cord but I dont have that one).

Would this do anything to the protection etc??

Hope to hear from someone soon

Zoidy

Well the only potential problem you are introducing is changing the quality of your earth which can be important for surge protection (depending on the nature of the fault condition e.g. active to neutral or active to earth etc.).  You will also most likely be lowering the size of the conductors, which in the GPO, will be a minimum of 2.5mm and the extension lead could be anything from the same to much smaller.  You will also be introducing more length which can also make a difference.

Will it work......probably, will it work as well for surge protection........unkown as there are so many variables.

You may also be voiding your Belkin insurance, you would need to read the fine print and maybe check with them as well.  Although I have always wondered how they can tell what your connection setup was after the event.  I have never had to put a claim in (touch wood) to date so I have no experience.

[blue2th]

i got this baby here - for $400 discounted from $599 from JB.  I like the "integrated" look with my HT setup and the fact that i don't have a extension "board" on the floor.

it's basically got 7 power points, 3 always on (PVR etc), 3 that can be turned off and 1 for stuff like A/V receiver with a slight delay.
antenna/foxtel, phone and ethernet filters too.  it's ideal when you would otherwise connect all these appliances (incl cordless phones) and minimises interference in addition to providing surge protection.

Couldn't recommend it more.

http://www.belkin.co...oduct_Id=254750

there's a model up, not sure of the street price as i have not seen one, but sure looks the part!

http://www.belkin.co...oduct_Id=254758

[Baja Wes]

Has anyone tried the Dick Smith units? They are $50 off at the moment. So for $49 you get;
http://www.dse.com.a...duct/View/M7810



* Surge protection for 8 mains outlets, phone line and TV coaxial cable
* Powerful 2,000J surge absorption rating
* Includes phone & coax patch cables

Provides surge protection for 8 mains outlets plus a phone line and TV coaxial cable socket. Includes coil⁄capacitor EMI filtering, 6 heavy-duty MOVs, varistor and gas discharge arrestors, protection status indicators, 10A circuit breaker plus 2,000 Joule and 60,000A maximum mains surge current rating. Incl. 1.8m phone & F-type coax patch cables. Lifetime guarantee, $100,000 connected equipment warranty.

* $100,000 Connected Equipment Warranty*
* Lifetime Guarantee*
* No. of Outlets:8
* Joule Rating Range: 2,000J
* Maximum Spike Current (Amps): 60,000A
* EMI Filter Capacitors :1 - Capacitor
* Noise Reduction Coil : 2 Bar Chokes
* Surge Protection Indicator (Neon Lamp) : Yes
* Ground Wiring Protection Indicator (Neon Lamp): Yes
* Fax Surge Protection (6P2C, 1 pair protected):Yes (1 In  1 Out)
* Coaxial Surge Protection : Yes (with gold plated jack)
* Power Shutdown Feature:Yes
* RED Lighted Rocker Switch (Neon Lamp): 1
* 10A Circuit Breaker : Yes
* 1.8-metre Phone Cable : 1 fitted with 2 x 6P4C Plugs
* 1.8-metre Coaxial Cable : 1 fitted with 2 x F plugs
* Not to be used with inverters or generators.
* Please refer to instruction sheet for conditions.

All Connected Equipment Warranty Claims must be notified within 14 days by phoning 1300 660054 and requesting a claim form or by writing to:
DSE Holdings Pty Ltd
Surge Protection Device - Warranty Claim
PO Box 500
Regents Park DC NSW 2143

[fat]

blue2th, on Apr 15 2009, 02:45 PM, said:

Couldn't recommend it more.

http://www.belkin.co...oduct_Id=254750

there's a model up, not sure of the street price as i have not seen one, but sure looks the part!

http://www.belkin.co...oduct_Id=254758

There is also another model up from that one, the PF60. I picked up a PF60 a while ago and got the guy down to $790 on it.

[blue2th]

fat, on Apr 16 2009, 08:49 AM, said:

There is also another model up from that one, the PF60. I picked up a PF60 a while ago and got the guy down to $790 on it.

saw that on the web too.  how do you like it?  $790 is a good price seeing as how the RRP is like $1,299!!!
any improvements/difference that you notice (e.g. reduction in "noise")?

[fat]

blue2th, on Apr 16 2009, 11:19 AM, said:

saw that on the web too. how do you like it? $790 is a good price seeing as how the RRP is like $1,299!!!
any improvements/difference that you notice (e.g. reduction in "noise")?

It is hard to say how much of an improvement there is as I moved into a new house at the same time I picked it up. The house is old and the wiring is pretty dodgy from what I have seen but there does not seem to be any noise on the screen or through the speakers at all so I would say that it is doing a good job