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[dean70]

I had a audition of the Epicentrix earlier this week - absolutely amazing sound. I actually preferred the Phonix mains over the Neuphonix with the Epicentrix - it seemed to have a more balanced sound. The Neuphonix with the audio track I sampled seemed to have this 'thump thump' lower bass which I found annoying. I think this together with a Seismix 5 sub would be too overpowering for a mid size (4.2m x 5m) HT room.

[Prior]

dean70, on Jan 10 2008, 05:48 PM, said:

I had a audition of the Epicentrix earlier this week - absolutely amazing sound. I actually preferred the Phonix mains over the Neuphonix with the Epicentrix - it seemed to have a more balanced sound. The Neuphonix with the audio track I sampled seemed to have this 'thump thump' lower bass which I found annoying. I think this together with a Seismix 5 sub would be too overpowering for a mid size (4.2m x 5m) HT room.

Then you just set your speakers to "Small" in your AVR, and no bass info will be sent to the mains.  Easy fix!  

Cheers,

Chris

[dantan]

The Epicentrix is indeed a mother of a centre channel. I am surprised that you preferred the Phoenix over the Neuphonix, when partnering the Epicentrix, but if that is the case, it is a bonus for you, as with the saving, you can purchase a Seismix 5 sub-woofer!

A couple of weeks ago, I changed the settings on my A/V Receiver so that my fronts and centre are listed as "small", even though size-wise, and specifications-wise, they are "large"! I set the cross-over frequency to a low 40hz. I have noticed a performance improvement.

Dan.

[POV]

dantan, on Jan 11 2008, 09:45 AM, said:

The Epicentrix is indeed a mother of a centre channel. I am surprised that you preferred the Phoenix over the Neuphonix, when partnering the Epicentrix, but if that is the case, it is a bonus for you, as with the saving, you can purchase a Seismix 5 sub-woofer!

A couple of weeks ago, I changed the settings on my A/V Receiver so that my fronts and centre are listed as "small", even though size-wise, and specifications-wise, they are "large"! I set the cross-over frequency to a low 40hz. I have noticed a performance improvement.

Dan.

I reckon 40hz is to low dan,  your velodyne sub would have little usable output below 30 hz meaning that your mains are doing a lot of the bass work,  this scenario lends itself to distortion particularly at higher volumes with high dynamic range sources.  Have you tried it at 60hz or the THX recomended 80 hz.  Sorry...i'm not trying to tell yu how to set your own gear up...might be worth considering though.

Drew

[dantan]

Thanks, Drew. I think I just might set it to 60hz. I reckon 80hz will be on the high side, because my mains must be able to produce good bass down to 60hz pretty comfortably.

[dJOS]

dantan, on Jan 11 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

Thanks, Drew. I think I just might set it to 60hz. I reckon 80hz will be on the high side, because my mains must be able to produce good bass down to 60hz pretty comfortably.

The Audessy EQ in my Marantz 8001 recommended 60hz crossover for my setup too although I did find I had to turn up the level on the sub by 1.5 db (audessy set it to -4db). I did try 80hz but that was a bit boomy considering the amount of grunt the Neuphonix have.

[dean70]

dantan, on Jan 11 2008, 10:15 AM, said:

The Epicentrix is indeed a mother of a centre channel. I am surprised that you preferred the Phoenix over the Neuphonix, when partnering the Epicentrix, but if that is the case, it is a bonus for you, as with the saving, you can purchase a Seismix 5 sub-woofer!

A couple of weeks ago, I changed the settings on my A/V Receiver so that my fronts and centre are listed as "small", even though size-wise, and specifications-wise, they are "large"! I set the cross-over frequency to a low 40hz. I have noticed a performance improvement.

Dan.

When I sampled some CD audio with the mains only, I preferred the Phoenix for music. Also I dont have the budget to do both, so it is a case of either/or. After hearing the Epicentrix over the Centrix, I dont think I could go back!

Edited by dean70, 13 January 2008 - 10:01 AM.

[dantan]

dean70, on Jan 12 2008, 07:43 PM, said:

When I sampled some CD audio with the mains only, I preferred the Phoenix for music. Also I dont have the budget to do both, so it is a case of either/or. After hearing the Epicentrix over the Centrix, I dont think I could go back!

I used to own a pair of Lyrix Gold's and Centrix Mk2, and when I upgraded to the sensational Epicentrix, I was absolutely gobscmacked by this centre channel, and naturally, upgraded to the Neuphonix mains, and I am a happy man. Just waiting on my Elektra, which I have been postponing, due to financial constraints. Then, a new A/V Receiver, or dedicated pre/pro, then Blu-Ray Player/PS3, etc.

[Mining Man]

dantan, on Jan 14 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

... Then, a new A/V Receiver, or dedicated pre/pro, then Blu-Ray Player/PS3, etc.

It never ends, does it Dan!!

I thought new surround speakers were next? Do Krix have anything you like?   

Also - wouldn't your AVR be pretty good as a pre-pro for a long while yet? Decoding in an HD DVD and/or BD player sent as PCM over HDMI into your 2807 will give all HD audio formats except DTS HD MA. That would make bang for buck from any upgrade look pretty sickly.  

[yamapro]

This forum and associated hobbies are indeed designed to keep us poor!

[dantan]

Mining Man, on Jan 14 2008, 12:09 PM, said:

It never ends, does it Dan!!

I thought new surround speakers were next? Do Krix have anything you like?   

Also - wouldn't your AVR be pretty good as a pre-pro for a long while yet? Decoding in an HD DVD and/or BD player sent as PCM over HDMI into your 2807 will give all HD audio formats except DTS HD MA. That would make bang for buck from any upgrade look pretty sickly.  

It definitely NEVER ever ends, Aaron! I mean, I was happy (for a short time) three years ago with my original Harman/Kardon package, which I spent $2,000.00 on altogether, including 2 pairs of stands.

Now, I am looking at a new pair of surrounds (Krix Phoenix is my top choice, at this point-in-time) and revert to a 5.1 set-up, and bi-amp my Neuphonix, when I receive my Elektra Theatron 7. Then, I want a PS3, and preferably, a dedicated Blu-Ray/DVD/CD player. I would love a dedicated CD player, too, maybe a Cambridge Audio entry-level model. It will still spin my CD's much better than my current Denon DVD1930, which is a wonderful Universal Player.

I reckon I am getting depressed. I want so much, but have so little. Hee hee.

Dan.

[dantan]

I shall certainly consider sticking with my Denon AVR2807, for the time being, then. Why can't DTS-Master HD be streamed via PCM? Is it because the current players are not able to stream it?

[Meld]

Epicentrix mkII should have 2 x 8" woofers and then one of you can upgrade and sell me your Epicentrix second-hand.

[dJOS]

Meld, on Apr 19 2008, 07:07 AM, said:

Epicentrix mkII should have 2 x 8" woofers and then one of you can upgrade and sell me your Epicentrix second-hand.

Keep dreaming mate!

[Meld]

The center I am temporarily using now has an 8" woofer and can go down to 37Hz-22Khz +-3dB or 39Hz-20KHz +-1.5dB so the Epicentrix is not much of an upgrade 'cept being 3-way and having loads more drivers. I dare any speaker manufacturer to actually negate any WAF and just build a real monster center speaker using 8" woofers. Make the cabinet double as a TV stand. I've been wanting to DIY a project like this but don't have the tools, skills, knowledge and materials to do it.

[MarkH]

Meld, on Apr 19 2008, 04:37 AM, said:

Epicentrix mkII should have 2 x 8" woofers and then one of you can upgrade and sell me your Epicentrix second-hand.

Considering the Epicentrix has the same driver complement as the partnering Neuphonix, it doesnt need 8" drivers.

[Andys_Galant]

wow what a review
do you think a hk AVR 435 is capable of running these speakers?

[dantan]

Andys_Galant, on Aug 29 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

wow what a review
do you think a hk AVR 435 is capable of running these speakers?

Hey mate,
Definitely audition Krix loudspeakers, mate. The Krix Neuphonix pair and Krix Epicentrix centre channel loudspeaker produce a superb front soundstage that is tonally matched.

These loudspeakers require a lot of power to produce their best.

I am not sure what specifications the Harman/Kardon AVR435 have. I know Harman/Kardon produces superb A/V Receivers, and I would think that it would power these loudspeakers nicely, but you might want to have a look at a dedicated power amplifier, as well, later down the track.

Dan.

[SimonNo10]

Reviving an old thread. A mate of mine has just purchased the Krix Neuphonix (Fronts) and Krix Epicentrix centre channel and Acoustix for surrounds and ask me if he should run them as large or small (Fronts & Centre)? He is powering them with a Wyred for Sound 5.1 power amp and an Anthem 50v pre-pro. He also has 2 SVS subs, see link below:

http://www.svsound.c...l&product_id=14

I'm not familiar with the Krix range but from what I've read on the internet from other owners Krix themselves say the centre and Neuphonix should be set to large. The Neuphonix are the rear ported version as you can get front ported by request.

Thanks.

[Quark]

If HT use only, then setting them to small with a crossover no higher than 80Hz is probably going to work fine and be easiest to set up.

If looking to use in 2.2 stereo from time to time, then probably worth trying both options (and several crossover points) and see which sounds better.

Edited by Quark, 07 April 2012 - 04:26 PM.

[SimonNo10]

Thanks for the reply. It will be 100% HT use. Will pass the info on.

[Prior]

Simon,
I would recommend setting them to small.
I had them set as large for a while, and when listening to them loudly, and with a lot of LFE, they can clip, ever so slightly.  As soon as I changed them to small, then no worries.

I did read that speakers with drivers smaller than 6" should be set as small.

Cheers,

Chris