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[Franin]

I was told today by castel imports who distrubute Toshiba Dvd player that the official release will be january and the one with the built in decoder is Feburary.Now I was told by some salesman and people that with decoded Hd player will decode the audio in dolby digital + /True HD running in HDMI.Wrong! You have to use the 5.1 analouge inputs is what I have been told by the toshiba representative to utilise there decoder.By running it through Hdmi your only going to utilise the amps decoder,standard 5.1.You can only use hdmi for visual but thats it.

[Mike Kakay]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 06:06 PM, said:

I was told today by castel imports who distrubute Toshiba Dvd player that the official release will be january and the one with the built in decoder is Feburary.Now I was told by some salesman and people that with decoded Hd player will decode the audio in dolby digital + /True HD running in HDMI.Wrong! You have to use the 5.1 analouge inputs is what I have been told by the toshiba representative to utilise there decoder.By running it through Hdmi your only going to utilise the amps decoder,standard 5.1.You can only use hdmi for visual but thats it.

Exactly!

So why hold back on U.S. import?

[Trigg]

M.L.F. AKA Mike R., on Nov 17 2006, 03:10 PM, said:

Exactly!

So why hold back on U.S. import?

Especially when they are about one third the price!

[MarkH]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 05:06 PM, said:

I was told today by castel imports who distrubute Toshiba Dvd player that the official release will be january and the one with the built in decoder is Feburary.Now I was told by some salesman and people that with decoded Hd player will decode the audio in dolby digital + /True HD running in HDMI.Wrong! You have to use the 5.1 analouge inputs is what I have been told by the toshiba representative to utilise there decoder.By running it through Hdmi your only going to utilise the amps decoder,standard 5.1.You can only use hdmi for visual but thats it.

I have my HD-A1 running Dolby TrueHD via HDMI into my RXV2700 and it ouputs MPCM loseless audio, and sounds incredible.

[:)]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 06:06 PM, said:

I was told today by castel imports who distrubute Toshiba Dvd player that the official release will be january and the one with the built in decoder is Feburary.Now I was told by some salesman and people that with decoded Hd player will decode the audio in dolby digital + /True HD running in HDMI.Wrong! You have to use the 5.1 analouge inputs is what I have been told by the toshiba representative to utilise there decoder.By running it through Hdmi your only going to utilise the amps decoder,standard 5.1.You can only use hdmi for visual but thats it.

I'd chime in with the others too here.

in regards audio what theyre saying is not quite right unless things have changed between the current us player nad hte new one coming. at present the us tosh hd-dvd players (HD-A1/AX1) are pumping out both audio and video via hdmi. there are no receivers or pre-pros as yet with the new surround formats decoding on board.

MarkH, on Nov 17 2006, 06:24 PM, said:

I have my HD-A1 running Dolby TrueHD via HDMI into my RXV2700 and it ouputs MPCM loseless audio, and sounds incredible.

beat me to it hehe

[Franin]

alebonau, on Nov 17 2006, 03:26 PM, said:

I'd chime in with the others too here.

in regards audio what theyre saying is not quite right unless things have changed between the current us player nad hte new one coming. at present the us tosh hd-dvd players (HD-A1/AX1) are pumping out both audio and video via hdmi. there are no receivers or pre-pros as yet with the new surround formats decoding on board.
beat me to it hehe

Your joking! The toshiba guy basically made it clear to me there is no way  a decoded hd dvd player can decode and run it through hdmi. He told me that is a load of rubbish. Between the australian and the usa( which I can purchase at Frank Prowse Hifi ) I though the only diffrence will be the voltage.Im looking at buying the usa one, is that region free?

[:)]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 06:38 PM, said:

Your joking! The toshiba guy basically made it clear to me there is no way  a decoded hd dvd player can decode and run it through hdmi. He told me that is a load of rubbish. Between the australian and the usa( which I can purchase at Frank Prowse Hifi ) I though the only diffrence will be the voltage.Im looking at buying the usa one, is that region free?

for the us model hd-a1/ax1 they are region free for hd-dvd but not region free for dvd.

[Franin]

alebonau, on Nov 17 2006, 03:40 PM, said:

for the us model hd-a1/ax1 they are region free for hd-dvd but not region free for dvd.

I asked them that and they told me they can only play region 1 hd dvd's.

[Mike Kakay]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 06:43 PM, said:

I asked them that and they told me they can only play region 1 hd dvd's.

This is correct for SD DVD's.

[Franin]

M.L.F. AKA Mike R., on Nov 17 2006, 03:56 PM, said:

This is correct for SD DVD's.

Awesome! what did you pay in AUS $ for the us toshibas, I was quoted $1599 which includes the voltage converter.

[Mike Kakay]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 07:00 PM, said:

Awesome! what did you pay in AUS $ for the us toshibas, I was quoted $1599 which includes the voltage converter.

No way baby!

Look at $600 ish for player and step down.

[Trigg]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 04:00 PM, said:

Awesome! what did you pay in AUS $ for the us toshibas, I was quoted $1599 which includes the voltage converter.

I imported my HD - XA1 for AUD $750

[Franin]

M.L.F. AKA Mike R., on Nov 17 2006, 04:03 PM, said:

No way baby!

Look at $600 ish for player and step down.

where did you order yours from?Those Bastards are ripping me off.Thank god for these forums.

[Mike Kakay]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 07:07 PM, said:

where did you order yours from?Those Bastards are ripping me off.Thank god for these forums.

Look in here- http://www.dtvforum....showtopic=42980.

Read well! (from about 35 pages onwards.)

[Franin]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 04:07 PM, said:

where did you order yours from?Those Bastards are ripping me off.Thank god for these forums.

I saw where I can order heaps of movies from Dvd box office.They have a dedicated HD page.They also have free shipping.Most new release movies are on $6 more in hd than the standard here.

[Felix.]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 03:38 PM, said:

Your joking! The toshiba guy basically made it clear to me there is no way  a decoded hd dvd player can decode and run it through hdmi. He told me that is a load of rubbish. Between the australian and the usa( which I can purchase at Frank Prowse Hifi ) I though the only diffrence will be the voltage.Im looking at buying the usa one, is that region free?

It must be the same guy at Castel who told another forum member here, Laurie, that the the Oz players won't output 1080i over component, which is a load of rubbish too. There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there, even from people who should know better, like those from Toshiba's Australian distributor.

They are either totally clueless about their own products or have some Sony sabotuers working for them.  

Frankly I think the knowledge base on HD-DVD at these forums here exceeds anything else in the country at the present time.  

[Mike Kakay]

felix_ler_sha, on Nov 17 2006, 07:16 PM, said:

It must be the same guy at Castel who told another forum member here, Laurie, that the the Oz players won't output 1080i over component, which is a load of rubbish too. There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there, even from people who should know better, like those from Toshiba's Australian distributor.

They are either totally clueless about their own products or have some Sony sabotuers working for them.  

Frankly I think the knowledge base on HD-DVD exceeds anything else in the country at the present time.  

I think your on the ball there.

[Franin]

felix_ler_sha, on Nov 17 2006, 04:16 PM, said:

It must be the same guy at Castel who told another forum member here, Laurie, that the the Oz players won't output 1080i over component, which is a load of rubbish too. There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there, even from people who should know better, like those from Toshiba's Australian distributor.

They are either totally clueless about their own products or have some Sony sabotuers working for them.  

Frankly I think the knowledge base on HD-DVD at these forums here exceeds anything else in the country at the present time.  

Im going to buy a usa one.It's too hard with these Australian distrubitors,I think your right.There not right into it and maybe just secong guessing.

[Felix.]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 04:21 PM, said:

Im going to buy a usa one.It's too hard with these Australian distrubitors,I think your right.There not right into it and maybe just secong guessing.

I don't think you'll regret it FRANIN. There are now over 30 members here who have successfully imported a player from the US, including myself, and everyone appears to be stoked with their acquisition. I think many would say it was the best value bit of HT or CE gear they've ever bought.

In fact I haven't heard one bad experience yet either with the purchase transaction or the HD-DVD player, other than of course Andrew's well publicised "Tale of Woe" which thankfully had a happy ending.

At least this way you should definitely have a player well before Xmas. There's no guarantees this will be the case with the Oz models.

[Mike Kakay]

felix_ler_sha, on Nov 17 2006, 07:32 PM, said:

At least this way you should definitely have a player well before Xmas. There's no guarantees this will be the case with the Oz models.

And the best thing is- Discs are region free!

[Franin]

felix_ler_sha, on Nov 17 2006, 04:32 PM, said:

I don't think you'll regret it FRANIN. There are now over 30 members here who have successfully imported a player from the US, including myself, and everyone appears to be stoked with their acquisition. I think many would say it was the best value bit of HT or CE gear they've ever bought.

In fact I haven't heard one bad experience yet either with the purchase transaction or the HD-DVD player, other than of course Andrew's well publicised "Tale of Woe" which thankfully had a happy ending.

At least this way you should definitely have a player well before Xmas. There's no guarantees this will be the case with the Oz models.

Beauty! I went amazon and they said they only ship within the states only! Am I doing anything wrong?

[Felix.]

FRANIN, on Nov 17 2006, 04:38 PM, said:

Beauty! I went amazon and they said they only ship within the states only! Am I doing anything wrong?

Yeah Amazon won't sell you one as it breaches their contractual arrangements with Toshiba America to not sell units internationally. The latest hot avenue for buying a player is DeepDiscountDVDs. Although this is a bit touch and go at the moment. I think there is only one confirmed receipt of a player at this stage although many here have placed an order in the past week at the amazing prices offered and crossing their fingers that the orders will be shipped.

http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/

Brand new units were available from eBay where many here sourced their players including myself. However they have appeared to have dried up in the past week.

[loser]

I had read some time ago that region coding and copy protection updates will be implemented in these players from discs, that is discs made from a certain point onwards will update the player the first time they are loaded with a later version of the software.

This means that when they decide to implement region coding (and they must, this is a studio issue not hardware manufacturer issue) every new disk released after that point will check and update the players software to enforce region coding. The same will happen every copy time protection is (inevitably) hackedas well.

[Mike Kakay]

felix_ler_sha, on Nov 17 2006, 07:47 PM, said:

Yeah Amazon won't sell you one as it breaches their contractual arrangements with Toshiba America. The lastest hot avenue for buying a player is DeepDiscountDVDs. Although this is a bit touch and go at the moment. I think there is only one confirmed receipt of a player at this stage although many here have placed an order at the amazing prices offered.

http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/

Oi! felix....I was trying to coax him into a bit of reading first......so he was aware of the pitfalls. You gave it away too easily.

  

[HomerJ]

tulkam, on Nov 17 2006, 07:48 PM, said:

I had read some time ago that region coding and copy protection updates will be implemented in these players from discs, that is discs made from a certain point onwards will update the player the first time they are loaded with a later version of the software.

This means that when they decide to implement region coding (and they must, this is a studio issue not hardware manufacturer issue) every new disk released after that point will check and update the players software to enforce region coding. The same will happen every copy time protection is (inevitably) hacked.

The Microsoft 'spokesman' on AVSForum said that HD-DVD region coding can't be made resprospective since there is currently no standard.  If the disc has do region coding info on it (since there is no standard) then how can a future firmware upgrade suddenly recognise a region if there is nothing on the disc????