pgdownload, on Sep 10 2009, 06:04 AM, said:
You can make 4 more test posts here
. That will enable you to make your own post rather than tag on the end of others.
You might like to read the other HD PVR
sticky to get a practical idea of what modern HD PVRs can do. It seems cost might be a big factor for you - HD PVRs range roughly from $400 to $900. Do you have a upper limit?
I agree a twin tuner unit is the way to go if its (your primary source of TV) if you can. Pity TEAC were so obtuse. Usually the diagnosis cost is deducted from the overall repair cost if you go ahead. Not sure if it won't be your cheapest option.
PS Good on you for not paying to watch ads (with a good PVR you can actually skip the free ads too
) The Foxtel fineprint always had ads starting a few years after launch. Given how few actually did anything about them when they arrived its perhaps not surprising they did?
About the pay TV, just before it stopped, I had what I thought was the ultimate pay TV experience. I turned on the TV, and went to the movie I had wanted to watch. I saw the last four minutes. That summed up the whole pay experience for me. I enjoyed that movie too! Now of course cable has time shift devices too.
Another reason though why I dropped it, was because I the contract had included a surround tuner - but I found out that it was not surround, and not even stereo they said. And I had an argument with them. The end of it was that they would only supply me the correct box if I paid for it. The reason I got the wrong box, was because they incorrectly delivered it to me - yet I still had to pay extra for the proper unit! Meanwhile I think I had been getting what was close to mono, for several years. Their attitude cost them! But the driving force really was the ads, and the fact that it was not possible to see a movie when you wanted to. Nowadays, if you watch golf, I think you need cable TV. And tennis too I guess. I used to look at the majors now and then - they are rarely broadcast these days. It makes me wonder what the sponsors must think about what must be a diminished market.
I am value driven, which is different from cost. My wife watches TV more than I do - but I like the sport, such as GPs and the footy (which is almost over). I don't tell her how much the tech stuff costs! I bought a combination remote a few years ago, and it was great, but not cheap. It lasted about 15 months - and was out of warranty. I felt ripped off. I notice now, that better touch remotes still have limited warranties, yet they cost I think from $200 and upwards. And they chew batteries and take time to setup. So I put up with all the remotes - it seems bad value to spend time setting something up, and then it fails, and you have to get a different one, and go through the whole process all over again.
My wife knew the TV's cost, but not the surround. Surprisingly my Surround is great, despite using for the important centre speaker, a Nakamichi unit which has a different tone to the English side speakers and the English sub-base unit I use. The rears I bought new which were not cheap. But the whole system sounds great, due to the microphone adjusting the sound surprisingly well. By having an amplified centre speaker, I was able to bi-amp the English side speakers, which are hard to drive and one had a suspect crossover. It all turned out great. But I paid to get the wiring done - the floor is too low and the distance from the amps and gear was 7 metres in cable requirements. I thought my wife would not have been impressed with the cost of everything! Ignorance is bliss! Or maybe she knows?
I have a sort of friend who made money years ago programming Oracle databases in the UK. After he made lots, he came back to Aus. When he bought a big TV, he bought a PC and made his own TVR. I wasn't sure if that was good value or not. But since he did, PCs are even cheaper. It surprises me someone doesn't have a notebook that could do both - be a setop box/DVD player/net machine/games station and you could also pick it up (I guess it would need a dock). That hasn't happened yet though.
For me setop boxes are simply very cheap computers running a free OS (usually Unix) with some image based slots/connections like HDMI etc. and a tuner or two and a hard disk. That they cost as much as they do, seems to represent poor value IMO. But they do offer something valuable - they save time, and they add utility to watching TV.
I am not sure which way to go. I like the Panasonic tuner with the DVD burn capability - because IMO no matter how big your drive(s), if you can burn - say the grand final - then you've got it for keeps. And DVD now cost under 50 cents for a blank. Although the Panasonic has only one turner I think, and also strangely, it burns a DVD in stereo, not in 5.1. I presume if it downloads a movie from a TV station, that it looses the surround sound? Even the HD version with two tuners only records its DVDs in stereo. I guess in time that will change. But I like the speed and ability to burn a DVD of something you like. The Panasonic cost now about $580 from Dick Smith. The other model is $400 dollars more. All one gets for that is an SD slot, two tuners, both being HD (is that really a big deal?), and nothing much else. So I see something like that as being bad value. I suspect it really should cost $650. And one day it will. And I don't know if either unit can take an external HD.
Otherwise its buying a HD system. Its confusing understanding the various feature sets of everything, and then after you do, there are quality issues. Originally I thought buy a clone type but there are quality issues. Yet I know the TEAC 160 I had (have but not repaired) was built by someone else, and it was very good, even without upgrading the software.
It comes down to what one perceives as being a good purchase. Its not easy when you don't even know if HD is worth it (on my couple of years old medium HD Pioneer, the HD is not much better than the superb stand definition picture - its the sound which is better on the HD though).
Edited by MelbournePark, 10 September 2009 - 10:33 AM.