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[Groover !]

I really do have to laugh with all the promo,s of Foxtel Digital.
Guess what if you have Fox Satellite , its digital now and  compared  to FTA   digital PQ its  crap.
This really has to be the biggest load of sh#t I,ve seen to date. It seems to Fox,  digital means being able to have diffent angles to watch from and  movies on demand in wide screen(and by the why to receive some of these new features you will need a phone line connected to the back of your box as well so Telstra wins big time.), and nothing on improving the PQ quality.

Now if they are not going to improved the PQ  on what we already have which is what I was looking for then they can stick it where fits...

This has to be the biggest con job I,ve seen yet.
Whats happened to the quality of your 576i let alone 576P and 1080i Foxtel ?

Give me  FTA Digital  over Fox digital  any day.  

Angelo

[kenneth]

I don't think the current "Digital" satellite service is going to stay as it is.

I say this because on 9 news the other night, they had a Foxtel Digital Satellite STB pictured.

Also, the current "Digital" satellite service, if I'm correct, is the same feed as the cable feed. When Digital Cable comes online, it may change.

[Groover !]

Princi, on Jan 23 2004, 10:14 PM, said:

Hardly anyone would upgrade to Foxtel Digital based on "better" PQ - spend $3K on a new display device as well so you can tell the difference?...I don't think so.

Foxtel Digital is all about the platform for new content - which is not possible on the current platform (limited number of channels).

I know what it's like to watch a grand prix switching between five different cameras (lived in the UK and Germany), and as soon as it's available here - I want it!

Didn't we have this argument about a year ago? Christ, man! Move on...

If you think your going to watch any Formula One live on Foxtel then you will need to move on ( to another country) as we in Australia will never get that luxury!!!! Unless FTA digital does something with it.
I,m not even going to touch your comment on display devices, are we not on a DIGITAL FORUM !!!!!!!!!!!
I think most of the common topics on this forum is about  PQ  on   DISPLAY DEVICES......
And yes I know alot of people are running around thinking one of the major  differences will be PQ. They are expecting the same PQ difference which happened when FTA went digital.
So if you have Fox Satellite NOW thats not going to happen.
Mind you we haven,t even touched on what its going to cost you yet!!

Angelo

[Groover !]

Obviously you and I are looking at Foxtel latest buzz word "Digital" at two differnt angles.
Foxtels latest advertising of improved PQ is misleading and load of crap.
It should point out that the cable net work is going to be the only winner.

As far as everything else Foxtels digital will deliver thats up to how deep your pockets are.

The day when we get live Formula One on Foxtel , I,ll piggy back you around Albert Park wearing a batman outfit.


Angelo

[supraman]

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ANG-ELO!!!!   :ph34r:

[datvman]

wow they made the fox book look fancy this month

[cpinkerton]

kenneth, on Jan 23 2004, 10:44 PM, said:

I say this because on 9 news the other night, they had a Foxtel Digital Satellite STB pictured.

The all important question......

What colour was the  featured Foxtel Digital STB?

Every bit of my gear is black.

Craig

[Wile E Coyote]

well if you get a PACE every bit of your gear BAR the STB for Foxtel will be black - coz it is grey  

[Jet]

But Laurie, it don't matter - you're always a very welcome "Guest" at any occassion!

Cheers,
Jet  :ph34r:

[laurie]

Thanks Jet I hope you are feeling well  


The promo I saw to-night say's it all

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You don't need a New TV to watch Foxtel Digital

So all of those with b/w tv's with mono sound-great
those with a color tv and RF only-no problems
those with a color tv and RF and Composite video-wow
but...those with a HD crt/plasma/lcd/projector with DVI/Component input  
you wasted all of that money
sorry guys it just pi$$es me off with all the great displays we have to-day and this is what we end up with
cheers laurie

[Groover !]

And your paying through the nose for the privilege....


Angelo

[boxhead]

I've got a pana rptv with component input.
From what i understand, the new pace digital boxes have scart out.
Can an adaptor then be used to take scart to component input, or only to composite?
After having my pana hd box set to 1080i output for so long it will be hard to watch it at reduced resolution, but hell it's got to be miles ahead of the dismal foxtel cable picture i get now.
Iv'e also seen scan converters mentioned to upconvert to 1080i, does anyone know of any cheap effective ones, and where to get them?
Ta
Brett

[laurie]

I've got a pana rptv with component input.
Good for DVD or FTA SD/HD
From what i understand, the new pace digital boxes have scart out.
Yep
Can an adaptor then be used to take scart to component input, or only to composite?
To my knowledge composite
After having my pana hd box set to 1080i output for so long it will be hard to watch it at reduced resolution, but hell it's got to be miles ahead of the dismal foxtel cable picture i get now.
I would say meters ahead!
Iv'e also seen scan converters mentioned to upconvert to 1080i, does anyone know of any cheap effective ones, and where to get them?
I've seen then mentioned before do a search if not others here will hop in and also most new AVR amps are now doing upconversions
Ta
Brett
No probs
cheers laurie

[boxhead]

Thanks Laurie

Not exactly state of the art then hey?

Even though it's composite input, I'm still drooling for digital.

Ever since buying the 119cm pana , Iv'e been disgusted at the cable picture. Always tossing up whether to disconnect, or beg to have satellite instead.
Been hanging out for digital to decide.
(excellent sports coverage on fox in ratings season, and dark void on fta in non ratings season doesn't help)

Ta
Brett

[cyril]

Sky NZ uses the same platform (OpenTV/NDS) that Foxtel are about to roll out, the STB's here are either PACE, or Zenith/Motorola. The latter are essentially the same but when Motorola bought out Zenith they repackaged them in a smaller case, but the internals seem to be the same using the STi5512 chipset.

These STB's are like most in that they have two SCARTS, one supports composite/S-Video/RGB and the other composite/S-Video. I have contacted Sky regarding component out, they state that these STB's (or at least the latter Motorola units) support Component via the SCART and they are concidering allowing the selection of such after some testing, no promises were given though, but they were well aware of the more common standard in this nick of the woods, ie. Component.

As for picture quality, I have seen both FTA in Aus, Foxtel on Sat and SkyNZ. I would class the pics of SkyNZ's premium movie channels/PPV movies, main sport channels and most Sky1 programs (assuming they were component digitial originals) up with the best of them. Foxtel via Sat was worse although much sport on FTA(AUS) is real bad from what I have seen. On SkyNZ, Local live sports on the sports and rugby channel  is pretty artifact free.

So hopefully with more bandwidth available on C1 the "New" foxtel will be an improvement once it gets  rolling.

[Colin]

Will the Fox Digital broadcast be in Standard of High Definition?
I am assuming SD.

I currently have Fox Satellite service and pic is excellent.
Not too happy 'bout having a phone line into the back of the new box though.

[Jezza223]

No foxtel are only using SD tv As they don't want to use HD

[Bobstar]

Colin, on Jan 27 2004, 09:40 AM, said:

Will the Fox Digital broadcast be in Standard of High Definition?
I am assuming SD.

Yes, it will be SD.

[Colin]

Bob and Jezza:
Thanks to you both for that speedy response.
Supplementary Q:-
Satellite: unlike cable connections, satellite currently does not have free to air channels, and I am told this is because of inability to cater with time zone differences. Are you aware of any change to this policy once digital is rolled out?

Reason for asking this: I have not yet purchased a STB 'cause if Fox will offer FTA channels in digital I would not need to buy a STB.

To add to my confusion, I am considering buying a HD STB, and am wondering how much quality improvement (on FTA) over my existing excellent reception.

(Panasonic AE300 projector: 100" screen in 16:9.)

[Bobstar]

Colin, on Jan 27 2004, 10:52 AM, said:

Satellite: unlike cable connections, satellite currently does not have free to air channels, and I am told this is because of inability to cater with time zone differences. Are you aware of any change to this policy once digital is rolled out?

FTA will be on satellite. Only SBS and 9 (+ presumably WIN, NBN etc.) confirmed so far.

Foxtel still negotiating with 7, 10 and ABC.

[Wile E Coyote]

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Only SBS and 9 (+ presumably WIN, NBN etc.) confirmed so far.

Austar CEO John Porter has told Mediaweek the regional FTAs dont want anything to do with it and as such will not be involved. He hopes they'll see the light and join up later but isn't hopeful.