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#1951 roughana

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

Thanks for your response davep. I don't have those options so I did some more searching based on xbox 1080i 50/60.
I found this step-by-step over at Whirlpool http://whrl.pl/RbzTIf
However I decided to check the Microsoft FAQ referred to in that post.
Microsoft say "If your Xbox 360 console is a PAL console, set your TV to PAL 60." So it looks like changing the xbox to 50hz is not the preferable solution.
The Panasonic TV manual says "We recommend that you set the SCAN MODE to PROGRESSIVE when viewing a PAL 60 or NTSC transmission.
When viewing a PAL transmission (other than PAL 60) with the SCAN MODE set to PROGRESSIVE, the screen will flicker. This is not a fault."
I will check this setting next and also try your suggestion and see what results I get.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

The Scan Mode on the TV employs the 100hz feature of your set, so if inputting a progressive 480p60 signal, it causes the flicker as described, so better to be refreshed at the natural rate, rather than 100hz.

Im pretty sure these older HD CRT's dont accept 1080i60 properly at all (hence your screen).  I remember it was the same with my old Samsung WS32Z10 HD CRT.  Microsofts recommendation is due to the reason that some games (I believe) dont support 50hz at all, but i think thats very uncommon.  I would certainly first be trying to set your xbox to output 1080i50.

I also think, from memory, that you first select 1080i, then it will try and sync for a few seconds at 60 hz, before changing to 50hz, at which point a menu comes up with something like "is this working/better, hit 'a' to confirm"

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

I tried the 100Hz and Progressive toggle last night. It did not seem to make much of a difference. When in AV mode, there was no visible response to pressing the button. When I changed to TV mode I could see the option and setting appearing on the TV. So I set it there and then switched back to AV mode.
I also tried 1080i50/60 toggling. Interestingly, in 1080i/60 mode the output was stable, just not an intelligible picture (as per prior screen shot).
In 1080i/50 mode the picture was still not intelligible (as per prior screen shot) but also had some left <-> right funky oscillation happening.
Surely if I can view TiVo HD output (format fixed 1080i) then the TV is able to support some form of 1080i?
I'm thinking of grabbing an xbox 360 component cable to try instead of Joytech's proprietary one and going straight to the TV to see if that makes any difference. Does anyone have one (in Sydney?) that I can borrow for the test?