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[GeoffB]

I want a projector that is suitable for watching mostly foxtel and of course a few dvd's. As I dont have a dedicated room I am stuck with some light coming through from my kitchen.
So far I have considered the panasonic AE900, Infocus 5000, Sanyo Z4 and now am looking at the Epson TW600.
I am getting more and more confused by the day. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

GeoffB

[rezok]

The answer is simple.

For 2900 at Trevor Lees in Kew you buy the Sony HS60 and stop worrying.

Of course, do it before anyone else posts underneath to confuse you further.

[ocujos]

rezok, on Dec 28 2005, 02:37 PM, said:

The answer is simple.

For 2900 at Trevor Lees in Kew you buy the Sony HS60 and stop worrying.

Of course, do it before anyone else posts underneath to confuse you further.

rezok,

I said the same and got flamed for it.

[Chicken Man]

. As I dont have a dedicated room I am stuck with some light coming through from my kitchen. ......GeoffB

GeoffB, The simple solution is to stick up some temporary ' black ' curtains when viewing.

If you have any ambient light in the room while viewing with a projector,the black levels will be so degraded that it doesn't matter how good the contrast ratio of the projector is...... the image will look 'flat' !

If you can't block out the light effectively then the projector you decide upon is inconsequential.

C.M

[Highjinx]

GeoffB, on Dec 28 2005, 12:19 PM, said:

I want a projector that is suitable for watching mostly foxtel and of course a few dvd's. As I dont have a dedicated room I am stuck with some light coming through from my kitchen.
So far I have considered the panasonic AE900, Infocus 5000, Sanyo Z4 and now am looking at the Epson TW600.
I am getting more and more confused by the day. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

GeoffB

C.M is on the money!

If you can't control the light the image will be comprimised anyway. If you have no intentsions of viewing HD, just SD off Foxtel and the odd DVD.........pick up a last gen LCD or DLP. You will pick one up for a song.

If you have plans for a more light controlled viewing room soon, any of the units mentioned will be fine as long as the throw/offset of the projector will work in your room.

If a better viewing room is 8 to 12 months away, buy the cheapie now and get a C2fine/BiNa6 at the end of 2006. They will be significantly better than anything in the $3000.00 range currently available!

Edited by Highjinx, 28 December 2005 - 02:06 PM.

[Chicken Man]

If a better viewing room is 8 to 12 months away, buy the cheapie now and get a C2fine/BiNa6 at the end of 2006. They will be significantly better than anything in the $3000.00 range currently available!.............Highjinx


Totally agree.......I decided to wait for the C2fine/BiNa6 technology myself even though the Z4 looks pretty tempting.

C.M

Edited by Chicken Man, 28 December 2005 - 02:12 PM.

[Highjinx]

Me too C.M!

I have a 92" Dalite High Power on order, should be here any day now. The plan was to buy a Sony HS60 and build a HTPC to feed it.

But I think with PC part manufactures poised to release their Blu-Ray drives/burners, Video card manufacturers poised to release video cards with high power HD decoding on chips on board & PC version of HDMI with HDCP on the way...............couple this capability with C2Fine or Bi-NA6 projectors, possibly 1080p units.........guranteed to produce some mighty fine projected images.

Heck this year felt like 3 months long to me.

I guess I can hang till the same time next year!

[Chicken Man]

It's all tooooo much ............it's either a feast or a famine in High Tech.

C.M

[rezok]

ocujos, on Dec 28 2005, 02:46 PM, said:

rezok,

I said the same and got flamed for it.

I saw that thread.

But this is the internet, flame away! The Sony was the best in the z3/700 days and is the best in the z4/900 era.

My opinion of course.

[The_Preacher1973]

rezok, on Dec 28 2005, 04:55 PM, said:

I saw that thread.

But this is the internet, flame away! The Sony was the best in the z3/700 days and is the best in the z4/900 era.

My opinion of course.

Well, he wasn't flamed for saying the HS60 is the best. He was flamed for saying everybody on these forums thought it was the best.

Out of interest, the weakness of the HS50 was its lack of brightness, does the HS60 have the same achilles heel? If so, perhaps this is not the best choice in this situation where ambient light cannot be controlled?

I saw a demo of the AE700 and an HS50 playing in the same room at a JB HiFi in typical store lighting conditions. The AE700 produced a far superior image in these conditions. I remember thinking to myself," If I didn't know that the HS50 was a great PJ and the AE700 was a stinking pile of horse manure, I'd take the AE700."

Under those conditions, the Sony was unable to show its best whereas the picture flaws of the AE700 weren't visible.

All I'm trying to say is (as well as getting a few cheap shots in on the AE700 ) that what is best for you in your conditions is not necessarily what's best someone else in theirs.

[Chicken Man]

GeoffB.

Any of those projectors you have mentioned as well as the Sony HS60 will all knock your socks off when you see the big picture for the first time.

Subtle differences become more obvious in a light controlled room but as I say they are all very close contenders in this price range.

C.M

[GeoffB]

Noticed the following on the Epson website........

Bonus Home Cinema Offer!. Purchase an Epson EMP-TW600 Projector between 15/11/05 - 31/03/06 and redeem online Bonus Offers worth up to $650.00
Wall mountable pull down screen and 10 DVD’s


Dollars are dollars  

May be the difference to sway a decision

GeoffB

[Chicken Man]

One needs to get the best price they can on a new projector even if it includes bonuses as the resale value of a projector drops radically when the next model is advertised.

If you can get  it with a bargain.........go for it.


C.M

Edited by Chicken Man, 29 December 2005 - 05:54 PM.

[GeoffB]

Any advice on where to get the Epson would be much appreciated.
Country Qld resident so cant exactly stroll into a shop to check them out and have to rely on online research in making my choice.......... on the other hand I just got back from swimming at the beach across the road so it aint all bad

Cheers

GeoffB

[Mousie]

Well, I too would like to know the best location online or otherwise as for buying in Brisbane is not all that good.  Just went to HN Aspley and they have pulled all there screens down and only one left??  Anyway decided on the tw600 but if anyone has any direction locally or latest on line it would be appreciated.  Bonuses are great if this is the deal spliter in the bang for the buck category.

Regards

[foxtail]

Guys, try your nearest Retravision store, they buy off a wholesaler of Epson Pj's in Matraville, Sydney. Don't pay more than $2500 and as mentioned, you get the screen and 10 DVD's for free through redemption.

[Mousie]

Thanks Foxtail

Just rang my local at Brendale and got fobbed off, usually they are pretty good however not this time so rang the City Store in the Myer Center (Doug) and he will get back to me this arvo and I quoted a good price of 2.5k so will let all know,  Cheers and thanks for the advice

Mousie

[foxtail]

Mousie, on Dec 29 2005, 02:06 PM, said:

Thanks Foxtail

Just rang my local at Brendale and got fobbed off, usually they are pretty good however not this time so rang the City Store in the Myer Center (Doug) and he will get back to me this arvo and I quoted a good price of 2.5k so will let all know,  Cheers and thanks for the advice

Mousie

Happy to help out...

[rezok]

The_Preacher1973, on Dec 28 2005, 08:50 PM, said:

Well, he wasn't flamed for saying the HS60 is the best. He was flamed for saying everybody on these forums thought it was the best.

Out of interest, the weakness of the HS50 was its lack of brightness, does the HS60 have the same achilles heel? If so, perhaps this is not the best choice in this situation where ambient light cannot be controlled?

I saw a demo of the AE700 and an HS50 playing in the same room at a JB HiFi in typical store lighting conditions. The AE700 produced a far superior image in these conditions. I remember thinking to myself," If I didn't know that the HS50 was a great PJ and the AE700 was a stinking pile of horse manure, I'd take the AE700."

Under those conditions, the Sony was unable to show its best whereas the picture flaws of the AE700 weren't visible.

All I'm trying to say is (as well as getting a few cheap shots in on the AE700 ) that what is best for you in your conditions is not necessarily what's best someone else in theirs.

I was in the unique position of owning both and can tell you the Sony was superior to the 700 to my eye. Clearly superior.

Although i havent seen the hs60, the 900 looks now closer to the sony - more so than the 700 before - so I assume with the uppage in contrast, the new hs60 is still better.

[ajm]

rezok, on Dec 29 2005, 07:04 PM, said:

Although i havent seen the hs60, the 900 looks now closer to the sony - more so than the 700 before - so I assume with the uppage in contrast, the new hs60 is still better.

Oh I love it.  Two of the most adamant recommendations lately - assumptions about what "everyone" thinks followed by assumptions based on paper stats.     What a crackup this forum has become

Is it just too inconvenient these days to actually view stuff and then have your own opinion or is everyone else just that bit smarter these days.  A small amount of experience is passed off as expertise and the words "I prefer" and "in my opinion" have all but disappeared from the vernacular.

With the amount of angst and hand wringing going on you'd think people were being forced to choose which of their kiddies gets the last transplant.

How about taking the time and seeing for yourself and most of all trusting your own opinion. Then shut the hell up about it because:
1/ someone will want to argue with you and call you a fool; and
2/ everyone else will assume you're trying to get peer support.

Not for the feint of heart these internet forums by god.

[Samhain]

ajm, on Dec 29 2005, 07:26 PM, said:

Oh I love it.  Two of the most adamant recommendations lately - assumptions about what "everyone" thinks followed by assumptions based on paper stats.     What a crackup this forum has become

Is it just too inconvenient these days to actually view stuff and then have your own opinion or is everyone else just that bit smarter these days.  A small amount of experience is passed off as expertise and the words "I prefer" and "in my opinion" have all but disappeared from the vernacular.

With the amount of angst and hand wringing going on you'd think people were being forced to choose which of their kiddies gets the last transplant.

How about taking the time and seeing for yourself and most of all trusting your own opinion. Then shut the hell up about it because:
1/ someone will want to argue with you and call you a fool; and
2/ everyone else will assume you're trying to get peer support.

Not for the feint of heart these internet forums by god.

WHOA    not sure I would have put it quite like that.... but I aint arguing either !

Edited by Samhain, 29 December 2005 - 06:39 PM.

[ajm]

Samhain, on Dec 29 2005, 07:39 PM, said:

WHOA    not sure I would have put it quite like that.... but I aint arguing either !

Yeah the 'social niceties' valve must have blown in the heat.

I'm not setting out to offend - although that probably is going to be inevitable with the way I carry on - but I think people sometimes confuse what they 'like' with what's 'best'.  Preference is being confused with superiority.  If being the 'best' were just about people agreeing then "Crazy Frog" must be the'best' musical act going around since more people bought that single than any other last month.

But that's just my opinion I guess

Edited by ajm, 29 December 2005 - 07:38 PM.

[Samhain]

ajm, on Dec 29 2005, 08:34 PM, said:

Yeah the 'social niceties' valve must have blown in the heat.

I'm not setting out to offend - although that probably is going to be inevitable with the way I carry on - but I think people sometimes confuse what they 'like' with what's 'best'.  Preference is being confused with superiority.  If being the 'best' were just about people agreeing then "Crazy Frog" must be the'best' musical act going around since more people bought that single than any other last month.

But that's just my opinion I guess

lol nicely put  

[GeoffB]

So nobody has advice for online suppliers of an Epson projector?? Local retravision is bloody useless and only want me to get a plasma......

[Chicken Man]

Try AVACTION ,they carry Epson projectors and may have the TW600 though I did not see it listed, they generally carry everything.


http://www.avaction.com.au/


C.M