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[DJY]

I don't know bout anyone else?
but I can't get any information on now - next of shows on any channels here in Canberra?

I have read in various places that EPGs aren't going to kick in until the end of the year?  When I set up my box I did notice SBS already has a EPG channel - but it seems just to be a rolling (non-interactive) series of screens / ads promoting the timetable for that day... but I can't seem to move to a a time that I want to see whats on?

Anyone able to help / assist / provide information?
I'm not sure when the Now - Next functions are planning on being used?
Let alone the EPGs?

Cheers

[braddles]

See http://www.dba.org.a...nts/DMF_Can.pdf
ABC Now and Next is reliable and comprehensive.
SBS does not have NaN despite the document above.  The SBS EPG is more extensive but you can't see the program while you are trying to find out about it.  It is useful for bits of information, but could do with better placement and bigger font sizes.
The world weather in between foreign news can be useful on 33.
Prime can't get their NaN to work.
WIN and SC Ten don't broadcast NaN.

My Teac ITV-D500 has a special channel 0, which is its own "What's On" channel.  While the previously-selected channel appears in the top RH corner, it displays NaN information for channels a page at a time and will show how many minutes to the next program.  You can even ask to be reminded when a program starts.  Fat lot of good that does when only one channel broadcasts NaN!  

[gclark8]

SBS, Now/next.

I phoned SBS in Sydney yesterday and they said the NaN is working ok there.  It looks like Perth and Canberra just don't get it.  Why?

[morey5]

One problem I have with Now and Next is the inconsistent way the Canberra stations transmit the current time.

The correct time to be transmitted is GMT.  SBS, Ten & Prime all broadcast GMT.  ABC is transmitting GMT + 8:00 hours and Win GMT + 10:00 hours.

I have a Panasonic with integrated tuner.  It resets the current time when it is first switched on.  If it is first switched on to ABC or Win it gets really confused and shows the date as 1/1/2000 and the time as 00:00.  We have had Panasonic at home to have a look at and they surmise it is because the ABC and Win time signals are effectively yesterday compared to the other stations!

I have a Humax STB for the DVD recorder, and it picks up the current time when the channel is changed.  This is how I worked out what is going on.

Anyone else notice the same problems.  Maybe the way some get Now and Next and some don't is due to these time issues.

Doesn't happen in Melbourne or Sydney by the way!

[DJY]

I did notice some of the channels appear to be set on different times (GMT + ?)

But I dont get any NaN info?!
I did see on a mates TEAC Prime and ABC NaN - and noticed he was using ABC TV Canberra - whereas as I only get image no sound on that - use ABC TV2 which has no NaN...

Ok so two questions:
Anyone local also not get sound on the first ABC channel (or know how I can get sound?)
and...

Anyone else using a Strong 5290B or a 5290 and getting NaN here in Canberra?

[tones]

I have just purchased a Thomson DTI500A and was impressed how quickly the whole thing set up and found the available channels in Tugg.  Anyone have any idea when Prime and SC are expected to broadcast from Tugg - DBA reception locator says Jul-Sep 03.

Tony

[gadget]

Tones
Re: Tugg Hill, Prime & Ten SCB, that date has changed about 3 times, have contacted Ten SCB tech, am waiting reply.

[tones]

gadget,

thanks for the reply, I believe what you say - the receptor guide for Tugg changed again today with ABC dropping off to fit with Ten and Prime as TBA.  Guess we keep waiting.

[braddles]

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DJY... Anyone local also not get sound on the first ABC channel (or know how I can get sound?)

If you are referring to ABC HD 20, the native sound is Dolby Digital 5.1.  I tried to switch to analog (which normally works) but there is no analog option at the moment.
Recently ABC 2 started sending a digital audio feed.  It is possible that you have selected digital audio by mistake.  The other channels are not broadcasting digital audio, so there's no option.
BTW, Prime NaN is dead again.
Interesting info on the time issue.  My STB would grab the correct time when cold booted and then be three minutes out after subsequent warm boots!  Then recently, time starting jumping back and forth.

[morey5]

I contacted the DBA using the contact option on their web site (the old forum site) regarding the inconsistent times in Canberra.  It seems to have worked, as all of my times (I receive from Black Mountain) are now correct within a few minutes of each other.

However, according to the posts, only ABC sends 'Now and Next', but I don't receive it from TV2.

I like the way WIN runs the Digital Television advertisement with Bert Newton, which touches on "Now and Next", and yet they don't broadcast it themselves.

Like the Teac set top box mentioned in an earlier post, my Panasonic integrated TV also has a facility to set up 'favourite' programs from Now and Next, and be reminded about them.  Not much good in Canberra!

[DJY]

braddles, on Sep 2 2003, 08:04 AM, said:

If you are referring to ABC HD 20, the native sound is Dolby Digital 5.1.  I tried to switch to analog (which normally works) but there is no analog option at the moment.

Thanks for your post mate!
I wasn't referring to the ABC 20 HD channel....

I don't get sound, only images (and NaN+) on program 2 labelled ABC TV Canberra

I get images, and sound (but no NaN) on
21 ABC TV 2
22 ABC TV3
23 ABC TV4

The HD Channel carried the permant line HD not running or somthing similiar...
tis weird?!?!??!

[braddles]

(Disclaimer: There's a few things I need to check in the post below when I get the chance.  Watch this space.)
ABC HDTV 20 has just upgraded, so you probably won't see or hear anything there unless you are HD ready.  See http://www.dtvforum....p?showtopic=378
NaN is only broadcast on 2 ABC, though Fly and Kids had it and 20 HD had its own NaN, usually telling you that it wasn't running (!) but probably has a proper NaN.
If you were getting sound on 2 ABC before, then perhaps something in the recent changes have gone awry.
Rescan your channels.  While ABC uses the same frequency (for HD as well?) for all channels, it has made a lot of changes to the content of those channels in the past six months.  The test pattern from 23 ABC 4 had been replaced by the main feed, for example.  A rescan might restore the sound.
What is your STB?

[DJY]

Hey Braddles
Thanks for your post mate!
I have a Strong 5290B.  Only had it since 19 Aug 03 (yeah I've very much a newbie eh?!??!)

I don't think I ever have had sound on 2 ABC...
I did notice though as you mentioned since I did my one and only scan - that 22 ABC TV 3 and 23 ABC TV 4 (which I gathered were the now extinct ABC channels.... (well at least TV4) had gone from testpattern to main feed...

Weird though - image but no sound on 2 ABC TV Canberra....

[gclark8]

Change the audio setting in the set up menu.

[gadget]

I'm looking at ABC right now (Black Mtn transmission) I have 2 STB's Ikusi TRI-702, ABC TV CANB has sound & pic, ABC TV2 has sound & picture, ABC TV3 has sound & picture, ABC TV 4 has HD not available, ABC HDTV has HD not available. I am also running a Wintel Win1x, only diff is the HD channels, ABC HDTV has no pic or sound, ABC TV4 has sound & picture. This does change through the day, ABC CANB is the ABC to watch, the others tend to go on and off. They were the old FLY, ABC Kids & Test ch.

[DJY]

gclark8, on Sep 2 2003, 09:41 PM, said:

Change the audio setting in the set up menu.

MMmmm weird...
if I had the wrong audio setting - I wouldn't have thought I would have sound on ALL my other channels?

I've just checked the setup menu system and the manual... and might have to go in and chat to someone (either that or I'm just having a dumb night)

(Manual for 5290B is useless!)
Only options I can see are:

RF Mode - manual mentions if I get picture but no sound, then RF mode selecting might be wrong... (yet I get sound on all other channels?)
Options here are PAL BG, PAL I, PAL DK, SECAM L, NTSC M
(I have PAL BG set - but tried others)

SCART OUTPUT (not sure if this is just video or not)
options are CVBS, RGB, S-VHS (tried all - not sure where I randomly decided it should go)  only effect this seems to have is tellie automatically changes output viewing - Loewe has 16:9, 4:3, Pan, Cinema, Zoom.


I think from memory I have scart to tellie
and audio cables from STB to receiver directly.

Appreciate everyone's thoughts / posts / assistance.

[gclark8]

Switch off AC3

[DJY]

gclark8, on Sep 2 2003, 10:58 PM, said:

Switch off AC3

mate!
You are officially the best!!!!

I knew it had to be something simple...
I played...
i got frustrated...

I know it was silly - and quite a small thing - after all NaN only on ABC TV Canberra is'nt a big thing...

but voila!  
I owe you - thanks!
  

[gclark8]

This is an On Line alternative to NaN:

http://www.bigpond.c...content/tv.html

[DJY]

Hey I noticed tonight - that PRIME's NaN suddenly was working?!?!??!
Went to turn it over to make sure I didn't miss the start of Alias - and VOILA!

ANy guesses if it will stay?

[dischucker]

Yeah, I noticed it too last night when watching Alias - the detailed info was a one-liner though.

Checked again this morning and N&N is still running for Prime.

At this rate of uptake, I expect to be able to browse a couple of days of EPG for all channels in about 2006!