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[pgdownload]

AlfredE.Newman, on Jul 8 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

Just had another look at the Video Redo site and maybe want I really need is their TV Suite version which supports burning If I choose to lash out and purchase it it's only $99 which is still a lot cheaper than a standalone DVR recorder set-up. I'm still operating on the trial version of Redo Plus but I'm going to go home tonight and download the fuller version, I'll let you all know how I get on, thanks for your ongoing assistance...

Yep, you want the suite. Again a little quirky to set up the DVD but its all in there.

For various file types simply save your project and select a different option in the SAVE DIALOGUE box (MPG, REC, etc.)

You can load up a file, edit it and then add it to the DVD list, then save project and load up another and add that one too. Then hit make DVD and select all your options for the look (template etc.)

Regards

Peter Gillespie

[diesel]

AlfredE.Newman, on Jul 8 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

Just had another look at the Video Redo site and maybe want I really need is their TV Suite version which supports burning If I choose to lash out and purchase it it's only $99

Official VideoReDo site - US$74.99
Authorised Australian VideoReDo Reseller- $99

The Us site works out to be about $95 + any Credit Card Forex fees your bank will charge, so may as well buy from the Australian reseller. I bought mine when the $AU was worth a bit more fortunately  

[AlfredE.Newman]

pgdownload, on Jul 8 2009, 12:31 PM, said:

Yep, you want the suite. Again a little quirky to set up the DVD but its all in there.

For various file types simply save your project and select a different option in the SAVE DIALOGUE box (MPG, REC, etc.)

You can load up a file, edit it and then add it to the DVD list, then save project and load up another and add that one too. Then hit make DVD and select all your options for the look (template etc.)

Regards

Peter Gillespie

Hi Peter, when you say "a little quirky to set up the DVD" what do you mean? I'm guessing you can specify a default setting that will ensure that all the projects end up formatting the same? I've heard about 'VOB" files before, what is going to be the most compatible type (that basically works in most DVD players) or is that too hard to quantify? Also as far as the templating what features am I adding/changing?

thanks, Ian

[AlfredE.Newman]

diesel, on Jul 8 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

Official VideoReDo site - US$74.99
Authorised Australian VideoReDo Reseller- $99

The Us site works out to be about $95 + any Credit Card Forex fees your bank will charge, so may as well buy from the Australian reseller. I bought mine when the $AU was worth a bit more fortunately  

I didn't get around to downloading the trial version last night (her indoors birthday today, too much to do!) but will give a whirl tonight hopefully. Yep I think I'll probaly use the Oz site if I'm going to buy it post-trial, how has your experience been, any tips you want to pass on?

[snoopyttm]

how to "see" files from topfield 7100 via a external HDD?
I just copied the files from Toppy HDD to external HDD, but how to move to PC?
It seems the external HDD can't be read in my PC, which is using Vista. Thanks!

[pgdownload]

If you use the TVSuite then the file type isn't really material. If your making a DVD then ultimately you end up with VOB files as this is what DVDs are (a bunch of VOB files). But in TVSuite you load up your source material (note they don't do AVI so you need to grab a free AVI->Something converter if you deal with AVIs) edit it and then go to the burn screen. Usually you select delete any working files. By quirky I just meant it might take a few goes before you work out how to get a few episodes loaded, a menu and background screen shot defined etc. Its not just a 'hit the burn' button.

The two other options you could concider (IMO) would be TMPGENC and CONVERTDVDTOX)

Regards

Peter Gillespie

[audiohobbs]

snoopyttm, on Jul 9 2009, 10:43 AM, said:

how to "see" files from topfield 7100 via a external HDD?
I just copied the files from Toppy HDD to external HDD, but how to move to PC?
It seems the external HDD can't be read in my PC, which is using Vista. Thanks!

Have you tried TopfHDRW program? It is free and I use it to read Toppy-initialised disks (although mine is a 5000MP but I assume the 7100 uses the same operating system and disk formatting.) If not I am sure someone else will point you in the right direction.

Al.

[snoopyttm]

audiohobbs, on Jul 9 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

Have you tried TopfHDRW program? It is free and I use it to read Toppy-initialised disks (although mine is a 5000MP but I assume the 7100 uses the same operating system and disk formatting.) If not I am sure someone else will point you in the right direction.

Al.

I can watch the files by installing Ext2IFS.exe. Is it the same as TopfHDRW? Do you see the files as MPEG format?

[askari]

Topfeild pvrt 5000 is a great unit , however I thought twice about upgrading to the new HD pvrt 7000 . I have been hearing that it has a lot of problems. Living in WA, and having to post the unit to Topfeild in NSW for repairs became too costly to even consider purchasing the Toppy 7000.
When I had problems with my Toppy 5000 locking up, I had to posted the unit to NSW costing $23. I waited two weeks, got it back, and it broke again with the same problem within a week. So all up including bus fares (plus the extra effort of getting about in my wheelchair) this one problem cost me about $50.
Harvey Norman refused to take responsibility, saying they will only honor local warranties, so much for my all inclusive 5 year warranty .

[deangelj]

audiohobbs, on Jul 9 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

Have you tried TopfHDRW program? It is free and I use it to read Toppy-initialised disks (although mine is a 5000MP but I assume the 7100 uses the same operating system and disk formatting.) If not I am sure someone else will point you in the right direction.

Al.

Do NOT use TopfHDRW for the 7x00 series PVRs - this was for the SD models. As indicated above you need to use filesystem driver for Windows that understands the ext2 filesystem format.

[50MXE20]

snoopyttm, on Jul 9 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

I can watch the files by installing Ext2IFS.exe.

That's the way

http://www.fs-driver.org/

[audiohobbs]

askari, on Jul 9 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

Topfeild pvrt 5000 is a great unit , however I thought twice about upgrading to the new HD pvrt 7000 . I have been hearing that it has a lot of problems. Living in WA, ...

Harvey Norman refused to take responsibility, saying they will only honor local warranties, so much for my all inclusive 5 year warranty .

Yes, warranties are worth little in Australia it seems :-( But then that is Hardly Normal for ya! :-D If you are still looking for an upgrade, the Beyonwiz DP-P2 looks good (I have a -P1 and it is reliable and does all that you need,  if being a little clunky.) The new Toppy MP, should it actually exist in the form described in other threads, looks very nice indeed, but again, hang on a bit to find out if there are things worth looking out for before you buy.

Snoopy, the EXT2 drivers was to be the next suggestion but you have found them already. The program I indicated is for reading Toppy-initialised disks and to initialise a disk for use in a Toppy but, it seems, in SD models only. Seems like you have got to view the files now so you will be able to convert them, if that's what you are after.

Al.

[snoopyttm]

deangelj, on Jul 9 2009, 12:34 PM, said:

Do NOT use TopfHDRW for the 7x00 series PVRs - this was for the SD models. As indicated above you need to use filesystem driver for Windows that understands the ext2 filesystem format.

Thanks!
But how about the files?
I transfer the files from Toppy to USB sticker then to my PC.
i use window media player or realplayer to play the .mpg files.
But how about .nav files? what are they?
cannot show the subtitle by playing .mpg files?

[deangelj]

You don't need the .info and .nav files on the PC. They're for the PVR to do quick skipping and FFWD/REW etc. I don't know about the subtitles but I would think that you might need a player where you can turn on that option?

[50MXE20]

snoopyttm, on Jul 9 2009, 11:29 AM, said:

I transfer the files from Toppy to USB sticker then to my PC.

Recommend a WD passport drive. Runs off the USB so no need for power cables.

Can get a 500 Gbyte for a $150 or so these days. Maybe less.

Much better for copying multiple large HD files.

[JaffaMan]

askari, on Jul 9 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

Topfeild pvrt 5000 is a great unit , however I thought twice about upgrading to the new HD pvrt 7000 . I have been hearing that it has a lot of problems. Living in WA, and having to post the unit to Topfeild in NSW for repairs became too costly to even consider purchasing the Toppy 7000.
When I had problems with my Toppy 5000 locking up, I had to posted the unit to NSW costing $23. I waited two weeks, got it back, and it broke again with the same problem within a week. So all up including bus fares (plus the extra effort of getting about in my wheelchair) this one problem cost me about $50.
Harvey Norman refused to take responsibility, saying they will only honor local warranties, so much for my all inclusive 5 year warranty .

The 7000 and 7100 really have no significant problems left - it has been rocky for both units with firmware that wasn't very good, but you'll find the current firmware does the job expected of it. I had a hardware issue with my 7000 early on - Topfield paid for the courier both directions, and I had it back in 3 days from pickup. The particular problem I had only affected some early models. The 7100 doesn't have any known hardware issues, though there was a bad batch of drives for a little while. It can take longer for repairs of course - I would expect a week - but it cost me nothing. I understand that is their normal policy (note it is a different company to the one you would have dealt with with your 5000.

[AlfredE.Newman]

pgdownload, on Jul 9 2009, 11:15 AM, said:

If you use the TVSuite then the file type isn't really material. If your making a DVD then ultimately you end up with VOB files as this is what DVDs are (a bunch of VOB files). But in TVSuite you load up your source material (note they don't do AVI so you need to grab a free AVI->Something converter if you deal with AVIs) edit it and then go to the burn screen. Usually you select delete any working files. By quirky I just meant it might take a few goes before you work out how to get a few episodes loaded, a menu and background screen shot defined etc. Its not just a 'hit the burn' button.

OK, I downloaded the trial of TV Suite quite successfully and I've been playing around with it over the weekend (in between kids using the PC for games of course!). A couple of issues I'm having are; when I transfer from Toppy to PC using Altair the .rec files accumulate in program files on the PC HDD, this is as it should be obviously, but they're taking up a lot of space whilst converting to DVD, basically I want to stockpile them on the 1TB external HD, work on them in TV suite then save them as DVD readable/burnable format in a  folder on the external HD to be burnt to disk later. The problem is when I go to TV Suite and press the "open video" button on the first window I get the opportunity to browse for the file I want to open but having done that and edited it it's the "save" dilemma that gets me every time. My question is:

what is the sequence of saving the file from Toppy>PC>TV Suite>External HD so that I can delete files from hard drive in the PC and store them on the external hard drive? At the moment I seem to have versions/copies in three different places taking up a heck of a lot of space???

And another thing    I've actually burnt a DVD in DVD-R using TV Suite that plays fine on our Toshiba DVD player BUT the lip-sync is out, not by much but considering how good the image quality is it seems a shame, what can be done?

[tonymy01]

Doesn't altair give you the choice of anywhere to save, I am sure it does?
I will say it again until I go blue in the face (and Netmask might pip in here also), projectX is the *best* way of dealing with DVB-T transport stream recordings.   It fixes up glitches in the streams, ensures the streams are in synch (by padding out the audio if required), and ensures the elementary streams it creates are compliant.   If you author with projectX as your first step (well, second after downloading the recording to your PC) you will find next to no problems with lip synch.    If you don't want to give that a shot, give "TS-Doctor" a go, this will attempt to repair the file you downloaded from the Toppy, but it doesn't have all the bells & whistles of projectX and might give you something more suitable for further editing in other packages.

[pgdownload]

I believe there's a delete working files after burning checkbox on the final screen?

As mentioned just navigate on the right screen of Altair to where you want the files to end up before downloading.

Otherwise if you're doing it a lot write a little batch file to del *.* (or deltree) in the various directories so at one push you can empty out extraneous files (you can also put in a xcopy command to sync any files to say the external drive if you want to)

Regards

Peter Gillespie

[diesel]

pgdownload, on Jul 14 2009, 10:42 AM, said:

I believe there's a delete working files after burning checkbox on the final screen?

This is correct

[RABSP]

bulls23, on Jun 26 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

OK so i have another question - Its been said that my PVR is TF 7100HDPVRT, twice over the past few days I've recieved a message on the screen that says "No Stream To Record" and you can press on the "OK" button for it to disappear, well, apparently. Every time I press OK the message doesnt disappear so i have to turn off my PVR.

One time i was recording something, and changed the channel and the message returned. Another time I just changed the channel and the message appeared, even though i wasnt recording anything. Any ideas? Anyone ever get that message? What does it mean, could it be fixed with a firmware update?

Not sure if you got a reply on this, but I had the issue too.

If you are watching a station and then start playback of a file that was previously recorded.

While watching playback, two timers start recording on two different stations from the one you were watching before starting playback.

When playback stops the 7000 tries to return to the station you were previously watching, but cannot because two other stations are recording.

I was getting this a lot, but it has not occurred since I upgraded to code: 1.00.10

It is a bit different from your issue, but I removed all the extra non used channels from the list too, like 7 Digital 3 etc.

Hope this helps.

Ron

[AlfredE.Newman]

tonymy01, on Jul 14 2009, 10:05 AM, said:

Doesn't altair give you the choice of anywhere to save, I am sure it does?
I will say it again until I go blue in the face (and Netmask might pip in here also), projectX is the *best* way of dealing with DVB-T transport stream recordings.   It fixes up glitches in the streams, ensures the streams are in synch (by padding out the audio if required), and ensures the elementary streams it creates are compliant.   If you author with projectX as your first step (well, second after downloading the recording to your PC) you will find next to no problems with lip synch.    If you don't want to give that a shot, give "TS-Doctor" a go, this will attempt to repair the file you downloaded from the Toppy, but it doesn't have all the bells & whistles of projectX and might give you something more suitable for further editing in other packages.

I'll have a look at Altair again tonight if I get a chance and see if I can force it to save to the external HDD. What we're finding is that once they (the Toppy .rec files) are in program files on the C drive they don't want to budge. To save you a fit of apoplexy I did check out ProjectX some time ago but it just didn't appear to have a very user-friendly interface in terms of getting it to do what was required, in other words too complex and unwieldy to navigate for the novice.

I dutifully downloaded TSdoctor to the PC as recommended but VideoRedo and TVSuite seemed a "one-stop shop" which was basically what I was looking for. I'll certainly look at TSdoctor in terms of initially fixing synch glitches and then maybe edit/burn using TVsuite. Thanks for your help.

[AlfredE.Newman]

pgdownload, on Jul 14 2009, 10:42 AM, said:

I believe there's a delete working files after burning checkbox on the final screen?

As mentioned just navigate on the right screen of Altair to where you want the files to end up before downloading.

Otherwise if you're doing it a lot write a little batch file to del *.* (or deltree) in the various directories so at one push you can empty out extraneous files (you can also put in a xcopy command to sync any files to say the external drive if you want to)

Regards

Peter Gillespie

Thanks Peter, I guess I was just a bit scared of deleting stuff in the early stages of familiarising myself with the programme! What I was wanting was basically a cache of .rec files and one of edited files ready for burning and I would delete both from the external drive after successfully putting them on a disc. I'l have to get my partner to eyeball the info regarding writing and saving files as she is more au fait with that stuff than me...Also thanks, Diesel.

Edited by AlfredE.Newman, 15 July 2009 - 09:23 AM.

[andy08]

AlfredE.Newman, on Jul 15 2009, 07:10 AM, said:

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I dutifully downloaded TSdoctor to the PC as recommended but VideoRedo and TVSuite seemed a "one-stop shop" which was basically what I was looking for. I'll certainly look at TSdoctor in terms of initially fixing synch glitches and then maybe edit/burn using TVsuite. Thanks for your help.

Just be careful with TSdoctor as the last downloads I had of it late last week off Videohelp had the backdoor.spybot Trojan and were despatched by Nortons.

I had downloaded it the week before and run it with no apparent problems or objection from Nortons, but then during a download from my 7100 using FileZilla the download dropped out or something then Windows went into a loop. Had to reinstall everything.

Then Nortons objected to the install of a new copy of TSdoctor I got from the Direct Download link. Same with the Authors site link.

I don't know if it was to blame for the crash but it's the first time a system of mine has been taken down in the 32 years I've owned PC's.

[AlfredE.Newman]

andy08, on Jul 19 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

Just be careful with TSdoctor as the last downloads I had of it late last week off Videohelp had the backdoor.spybot Trojan and were despatched by Nortons.

I've got TSdoctor sitting in my programme files having downloaded it OK some time ago but haven't really played around with it at all, wow, that sounds like quite a balls-up you've had!
I "think" I have finally gotten Video Redo's TVsuite sorted out although I am yet to fork out the hard-earned cash for it. I've got the Toppy.rec files accumulating in my 1TB external HD, I'm up to 19 episodes of Top Gear now The lip synch issues I've also worked out, I discovered TVsuite has got an Audio dialog box which allows you to fiddle around going either fowards or backwards with the calibration, very easy to use and it's suprising what a difference 27 milliseconds delay can have! I still would have to recommend TVsuite for people like myself who don't have a very strong computer background and want to edit and transfer their material as painlessly as possible, and no I'm not on the payroll...