108 replies to this topic

[kenneth]

captainatomic, on Apr 5 2005, 09:30 PM, said:

Wow your so happy about colour bars! 

Funny your getting 1940x1080, im sure it is 1920x1080...

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It is according to the transport stream

Elementary Stream PID 1711 (0x06af) MPEG-2 Video
MPEG Video: Bitrate 13.000 Mbps Resolution 1920 x 1080i
MPEG Video: Framerate 25 fps Aspect Ratio 16:9 Chroma Format 4:2:0

Descriptor: Video Stream Descriptor
 Multiple frame rate flag: True
 Frame rate: 25
 MPEG-1 only flag: False
 Constrained paramter flag: True
 Still picture flag: False

[Josh]

Forgive my ignorance, but how does one view these transport streams?

[kenneth]

Josh, on Apr 5 2005, 09:49 PM, said:

Forgive my ignorance, but how does one view these transport streams?

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You need a Digital TV card/device that can either record in the transport stream format (ie. keeps all the information that is transmitted) or a card/device that is supported in TSReader.

[Josh]

Does Dvico Fusion? Cause thats what i got...

[kenneth]

Josh, on Apr 5 2005, 09:58 PM, said:

Does Dvico Fusion? Cause thats what i got...

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Yep. What you do is make sure the MPEG format is not enabled and click record (ie. make sure it's in .tp format).

Then you load up TSReader (get the lite version from http://www.coolstf.com/tsreader/) and choose the TS file option. Then choose the TS file type and then type in the file name field "*.tp" (without the quotes). Then open the file you want to see.

Edited by kenneth, 05 April 2005 - 10:06 PM.

[Josh]

Thanks for that

[Tim H]

auswilliam, on Apr 5 2005, 08:44 PM, said:

now have sc10 bars and sound  teac info 1940x1080i

so I definetly say its the stations not the hardware

good night all

auswilliam

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Bars and Tone on SCTEN HD!  

So it's not the Teac!!

Although have still lost WIN HD pic, although the HD loop sound is comming through.

Thanx Tim

[steveo]

There is a message in the Newcastle forum sayinf SC10 will start HD programming at 6.00am 12/04/05. See  http://www.dtvforum....view=getnewpost

SteveO

[auswilliam]

captainatomic, on Apr 5 2005, 09:30 PM, said:

Wow your so happy about colour bars! 

Funny your getting 1940x1080, im sure it is 1920x1080...

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sorry for the typo dude!!

auswilliam

[Alistair]

WIN HD picture is back on the TEAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[freighttrain]

Tim H, on Apr 5 2005, 07:35 AM, said:

I really hope so!

Still not getting SCTEN HD and WIN HD Pic has also dissapeared for the first time ever. Audio is comming through but a little distorted.

PRIME HD is the only true HD pic received but appears to have no audio

All SD, ABC HD and SBS HD are OK

Thanx

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they was a problem with win and teac and lg boxes.. but they claim to have resolved that.. so double check

[Tim H]

Now WIN HD is good but SBS HD has no sound.

Come to think of it I don't know if Prime HD should have sound as I don't know if they are transmitting sound and I'm not getting it or there is graphic only.

Anybody getting sound on Prime HD?

Thanx Tim

[steveo]

Tim H, on Apr 11 2005, 06:52 PM, said:

Now WIN HD is good but SBS HD has no sound.

Come to think of it I don't know if Prime HD should have sound as I don't know if they are transmitting sound and I'm not getting it or there is graphic only.

Anybody getting sound on Prime HD?

Thanx Tim

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No sound on Primw HD and no sound on SBS HD for days.  Not just a fault in Canberra.

SteveO

[steveo]

SBS HD sound is now back.

SteveO

[Josh]

Is SC10 HD starting tomorrow?

[steveo]

Josh, on Apr 11 2005, 11:32 PM, said:

Is SC10 HD starting tomorrow?

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Totally Wild was HD on SC HD at 6.00 am today.

SteveO

[Josh]

OH YES!

Just turned it on and noticed a loop similiar to WIN's.

Do we know what programming they will show?

[steveo]

Josh, on Apr 12 2005, 02:29 PM, said:

OH YES!

Just turned it on and noticed a loop similiar to WIN's.

Do we know what programming they will show?

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They had Totally wild and GMA in HD.  Have to see what happens this evening.

[Josh]

Yeah i see The O.C is on in HD. Would be great if they showed it!

[Alistair]

The DBA news bulletin states that SC10 is broadcasting ALL Ten network HD programs.

SVU was shown on HD last night.  Not that I saw very much as I wasn't allowed to watch it.

Apart from Law and Order, NCIS and Mass For you At Home will be on on the weekend.

I have already seen more than enough of Bert in HD...

[bertieb]

Alistair, on Apr 14 2005, 03:28 PM, said:

The DBA news bulletin states that SC10 is broadcasting ALL Ten network HD programs.

SVU was shown on HD last night.  Not that I saw very much as I wasn't allowed to watch it.

Apart from Law and Order, NCIS and Mass For you At Home will be on on the weekend.

I have already seen more than enough of Bert in HD...

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Law & Order was on HD on Sunday night, yet last night (Monday Apr 18), nothing was on SC HD.

Whats the deal there .. I thought for a moment that at least SC10 HD were going to be reliable and show prime time HD during the week, but even that has stopped.

And surely, with all the technologies involved, all the stations can find a way around the advertising problem : surely they can do something on the software side, rather than having to buy a whole bunch of transponders or whatever they are.  Its 2005, for goodness sake ...   If they cant find a way around it, I fear regionals will be years away from getting the HD that Syd & Melbourne now get.  And that is an absolute joke.

[kenneth]

We had that St. Elmo's Fire movie in HD at 11:30 last night.

[OzHTfan]

bertieb, on Apr 19 2005, 09:28 AM, said:

And surely, with all the technologies involved, all the stations can find a way around the advertising problem : surely they can do something on the software side, rather than having to buy a whole bunch of transponders or whatever they are.  Its 2005, for goodness sake ...   If they cant find a way around it, I fear regionals will be years away from getting the HD that Syd & Melbourne now get.  And that is an absolute joke.

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I can assure you if it were a simple fix, they would. However it's not and involves significant costs. Like any commercial business, they will have to stage this expenditure over time. At the moment with such a small proportion of the market having HD viewing capability, I can see why they wouldn't be rushing to spend the money on further roll out straight away. I wouldn't stress that we are years away, more like 10-12 months perhaps from getting a similar level of HD to the metro markets. We are only 2 weeks on since the legislated regional HD start-up, let's have a little faith and patience...

[steveo]

OzHTfan, on Apr 19 2005, 11:15 AM, said:

I can assure you if it were a simple fix, they would. However it's not and involves significant costs. Like any commercial business, they will have to stage this expenditure over time. At the moment with such a small proportion of the market having HD viewing capability, I can see why they wouldn't be rushing to spend the money on further roll out straight away. I wouldn't stress that we are years away, more like 10-12 months perhaps from getting a similar level of HD to the metro markets. We are only 2 weeks on since the legislated regional HD start-up, let's have a little faith and patience...

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You get no sympathy from me on this.  The regional networks have had years to plan for implementing HD and should have been ready.

I am a ludite but to me digital data is digital data whether it is HD or not.  Digital data is designed to be stored and retrieved and the technology for that has been available for nearly 60 years.  I can't see why commercials cannot be recorded in HD format and inserted into the various broadcast streams rather than need ing separate encoders for each stream.  It may be hard but years ago when I was a public servant there used to be signs everywhere from the Secretary saying "Make it happen".

I wonder where the world would be if Newton had eaten the apple rather than try to work out why it fell.  Too often people say things are too hard rather than questioning and looking for ways to address the problem.

SteveO

[rochford]

steveo, on Apr 20 2005, 05:42 PM, said:

You get no sympathy from me on this.  The regional networks have had years to plan for implementing HD and should have been ready.

I am a ludite but to me digital data is digital data whether it is HD or not.  Digital data is designed to be stored and retrieved and the technology for that has been available for nearly 60 years.  I can't see why commercials cannot be recorded in HD format and inserted into the various broadcast streams rather than need ing separate encoders for each stream.  It may be hard but years ago when I was a public servant there used to be signs everywhere from the Secretary saying "Make it happen".

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Agreed - they have had a fair bit of time to plan for this, but remember that HD (and SD for that matter!) only started in Australia 3 years earlier. They are also combining playout facilities to make the move to digital happen, and this takes a lot of time. In the case of Southern Cross, they had to wait for more optic fibre to be laid between the mainland and Tasmania before moving playout to Canberra!

Digital data is digital data, no doubt. Commercials are stored in playout systems, and are automatically sent to the appropriate encoders (this was true for analog, and now SD digital). However, MPEG2 is an ugly beast, and one of its problems is that it is a true 'stream' format. Hence you can't chop and splice as neatly as 'frame' formats (like 35mm film!). The data is stored in a way that can be decoded easily into frames during playback, but not easily encoded into a stream (it is computationally intensive). There are now some limited MPEG2 editing systems, but even these are limited in their capabilities, and certainly not ready for real-time HD playout.

- Miles.