ABC Watermark, It has arrived! Options

[stonewall]

The watermark has arrived. ABC Kids is emblazoned on the ABC this
morning in a way that Nickelodeon would be proud of. I don't own any
ABC DVD's or Videos for kids, but don't they use this logo on them.
Therefore just as the LG logo shown on the SBS weather is a form of
advertising, isn't the use of the ABC Kids logo also a form of advertising?
I will wait and see what appears on TV tonight, but now is the time to hit
the phones, e-mail, mail, etc. to get this removed!

[Elmer Fudd]

same ABCKids watermark that was, surprisingly, on the old ABC Kids channel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kenneth]

isn't the use of the ABC Kids logo also a form of advertising?

How is it advertising when it's an ABC branding?

[Mr.Bitey]

Adelaide:

Friday (28th Jan) night I spotted the ABC logo watermark during 'blood in the wire' - it was fairly unobtrusive and reasonably transparent - certainly didnt have me worried about screen-burn.. (on a side note, this programm was broadcast in 5.1 which was a pleasant surprise from the stereo 5.1 of the commerical networks).

Dissapointing its there at all.

Reading these posts, I am loathed to see ABC Kids once I get home from work tonight and see what the daily recording has for me.

Cheers,
Bitey

['ct']

Adelaide:

Friday (28th Jan) night I spotted the ABC logo watermark during 'blood in the wire' - it was fairly unobtrusive and reasonably transparent - certainly didnt have me worried about screen-burn..  (on a side note, this programm was broadcast in 5.1 which was a pleasant surprise from the stereo 5.1 of the commerical networks).

You mean Wire In The Blood?
Are you sure there was one there, as I never noticed one in Sydney that night. If there was one in Adelaide, are you able to provide a screen capture?

ct

[stonewall]

It admit it may not qualify as advertising, but it does go beyond simply identifying the station. It is an established brand which is used to sell many products, and as I said isn't that just the same as the LG logo which is displayed on the SBS weather map (which is shown during the early morning). LG obviously paid to have it put there. I thought the point was worth raising.

[Mr.Bitey]

You mean Wire In The Blood?
Are you sure there was one there, as I never noticed one in Sydney that night. If there was one in Adelaide, are you able to provide a screen capture?
ct

Yes i mean wire in the blood :-)

Didnt record, and am fairly certain it was then.. I only watch ABC for particular shows (wire,carnivale,abckids), and that im fairly sure that was the only one over the weekend period given carnivale ended last week!

It was the ABC symbol (sideways 8 thing) in semi-transparent white in the lower right area - cant recall if it was in the 4:3 safe area, it was ABC HD also..

PS: Does anyone know when ABC will be showing the new series of carnivale? :-)

Cheers,
Bitey

[gepm]

Adelaide:

Friday (28th Jan) night I spotted the ABC logo watermark during 'blood in the wire' - it was fairly unobtrusive and reasonably transparent - certainly didnt have me worried about screen-burn..  (on a side note, this programm was broadcast in 5.1 which was a pleasant surprise from the stereo 5.1 of the commerical networks).

Dissapointing its there at all.

Reading these posts, I am loathed to see ABC Kids once I get home from work tonight and see what the daily recording has for me.

Cheers,
Bitey

You must be seeing things. Wire In The Blood did not have a ABC watermark on it on Friday 28th Jan.

Also it was stereo only, not 5.1. It may have been a "surround" mix, but not 5.1, I would had known if it was.

[ando9185]

Maybe the watermark was burn in from the news that night.

As for the ABC Kids watermark, I also saw it this morning, up in the top right hand corner.

I was guessing they might start watermarking tomorrow, but I now think they are "easing" it in, just so they will get less complaints about it.
e.g. start off with the news last week, now ABC Kids, next a few more shows, then all the time.

[Mr.Bitey]

Adelaide:

Friday (28th Jan) night I spotted the ABC logo watermark during 'blood in the wire' - it was fairly unobtrusive and reasonably transparent - certainly didnt have me worried about screen-burn..  (on a side note, this programm was broadcast in 5.1 which was a pleasant surprise from the stereo 5.1 of the commerical networks).

Dissapointing its there at all.

Reading these posts, I am loathed to see ABC Kids once I get home from work tonight and see what the daily recording has for me.

Cheers,
Bitey

You must be seeing things. Wire In The Blood did not have a ABC watermark on it on Friday 28th Jan.

Also it was stereo only, not 5.1. It may have been a "surround" mix, but not 5.1, I would had known if it was.

Perhaps I was mistaken. Maybe it was a program i flicked to over the weekend and saw a watermark.. With regarg to wire in the blood - I heard activity from my rears, 5.1 was indiciated on my reciever. I'd assumed it was a 5.1 programme (unlike 10HD which is often stereo 5.1) - I didnt pay that much attention to it as I was actually watching the programme - not listening/fiddling with some video settings (for a change) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

So for the record, there was an ABC watermark in semi-transparent white introduced (on at least one programme) at some stage over the last few days on ABC HD adelaide.

PS: The adeliade HDTV static image (displayed when theyre not broadcasting) is VERY bright and had me somewhat worried when I came in from playing a game in my study to find it'd been displayed for an hour or two on my crt rptv :-( I guess that'll teach me for watching ABC ;-)

Cheers,
Bitey

[tonygib]

I was guessing they might start watermarking tomorrow, but I now think they are "easing" it in, just so they will get less complaints about it.
e.g. start off with the news last week, now ABC Kids, next a few more shows, then all the time.

yup, thats what I'm expecting them to do. It better not be on "my" Doctor Who tonight or there will be hell to pay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[thesatelliteguy]

well no watermark on doctor who on abc nsw

[JasonBB]

Most people know what channel they are watching, along with most STB's displaying the channel number on the front, all it is advertising, I don't know what effect it has on anyone other than how do I get rid of this stupid thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[tonygib]

well no watermark on doctor who on abc nsw

nope, none on it in Adelaide either (great ep too, of course Leela half naked doesn't hurt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Lets see if a new month brings a new low in public broadcasting.

[kenneth]

Sounds like today may be "DOG-day" on the ABC as thesatelliteguy has posted in the Pay TV section that ABC Digital is on Foxtel now.

(DOG=Watermark).

EDIT: Of course, if today isn't "DOG-day" then sometime soon it will be.

This post has been edited by kenneth: Feb 1 2005, 11:14 AM

[eastsydneyboy]

Does anyone else think that the "ABC Kids" DOG looks like someone was sick in the top right hand corner of the screen????

He he he...I suppose it must be DOG spew! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[tonygib]

Does anyone else think that the "ABC Kids" DOG looks like someone was sick in the top right hand corner of the screen????

yeah, and it really does look like total crap.

Having a quick look at the ABC right now, and unlike the ABC yesterday and around 5pm, today Feb 1st, one great big green blob.

To quote a tennis player, "You can not be serious!!!!!!"

C'mon those "few" ppl that don't mind watermarks, etc, just try and justify that one.

[Digicruiser]

No matter how hard I try, me pencil eraser doesn't get the mark off!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Watching ABC news now, did they put the logo on their since their new look?

[Pizza the Hut]

C'mon those "few" ppl that don't mind watermarks, etc, just try and justify that one.

It's just TV. The "idiot box". Who cares if it has a little mark on it? Don't you have more important things to harp on about, like world hunger? That's one possible response.

The "watermark" on Australian Story yesterday night, though not coloured, was even worse than the ABC Kids one--I can't even watch my recording (it should be noted that AS has used distinctly obnoxious watermaks in the past). But to someone with a vitriolic hate of the runaway branding infecting our culture, its visibility level is a secondary issue.

Yes, the ABC's easing-in of watermarks, which is what appears be be happening, will make it less likely to galvanise viewers against them. Calculating pricks. It surprised me the commercial networks all did it overnight rather than use a more gradual introduction, though perhaps they thought it unnecessary against their already subdued and apathetic audience.

I suspect my RN-tuned radio and shelf of unread books will soon be very grateful to ABC TV's management. The first step was to stop watching commercial networks. Did that five years ago. The second was not watching ABC/SBS programmes with watermarks and other degrading characteristics, which is where I'm at now. The next step will be the final one. If the watermark goes full-time and SBS follows suit, I'll be selling my DigiTV card. Won't need it. Of course, it's easy for me since I'm single and don't have TV-addicted children. Nevertheless, if you've been thinking heretical thoughts, harness that watermark-induced anger and let it give you the "extra push over the cliff" you need.

[Digicruiser]

With your http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/ link, I would smash my own TV if I had a TV like that, regardless of the effects of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)