46 replies to this topic

[alanh]

Why bother, In September he can receive a signal from. 2 km away, using his existing antenna.

AlanH

[M'bozo]

Since the TV antenna & the masthead amplifier connections are screw/saddle, unplug the power injector, bypass the amplifier by connecting the cable that now goes to the output of the Kingray masthead, to the VHF antenna, and see if the TiVo still plays up.

Of course, set up this way, there won't necessarily be any SC10 reception, (apart from fortuitous reception from the VHF antenna.)

The antenna you have seems to be a Hills Y4 6-11 or similar.

The equivalent is this. This Matchmasterone should also work, although it's hard to judge without being able to measure for either of them, as has been mentioned a number of times.

You should be able to get antennas from electrical wholesalers. I'd ring & check first, of course, to make sure they have or can source them.

[Tazzy2Heads]

Alan
Probably the same reason that people tell me they will get some one else when I tell them I can't come until tomorrow morning,
they don't want to wait.Anyway it's his call and his dollar.
Tazzy

[alanh]

All,
The digital transmitter change over will be even earlier
http://www.digitalre...er-21-6-12.aspx

Alanh

[timx]

Ok Just installed a Hills DY6 and ran a quadshield direct to my TV & Tivo for testing.

Currently all stations are good without pixellation. The signal strength (on Tivo) for SCN 10 is sitting around 60% but It is still producing a good picture.

The only problem is that the Tivo isnt detecting (?) SBS for some reason. It has 10/10 strength/quality on the panasonic tv.I performed a full scan on the Tivo with no luck and I also tried to add it manually on the Tivo but there is no option to scan the 744.224 MHz frequency which SBS sits. There is 739 and 746MHz.. Im guessing this is a Tivo problem?

[nbound]

"Will" it? Early switchovers are notorious for delays.

[nbound]

Timx, SBS is a VHF frequency on digital in your area. Try 205.625Mhz (205.5Mhz should also work if you cant get that exact one)

The 744.224 MHz frequency is for analogue

Edited by nbound, 04 July 2012 - 12:41 PM.

[timx]

shouldnt the DY6 (VHF antenna) pick up SBS?

i originally tried the 205 (based on this) but there isnt an option, Tivo lists 198.5 and 212.5, I scanned both of these but it didn't pick up SBS

Edited by timx, 04 July 2012 - 12:43 PM.

[nbound]

Is the TiVo's location set to Australia?

[timx]

yes it is

[nbound]

Hmm cant see why it wouldnt select channel 9A, else anyone with a TiVo in Canberra wouldnt get ABC.

Anyone with a TiVo able to help? I dont have one myself, so dont know if there is any tricks.

[Tazzy2Heads]

Have you tried/done a full factory default reset including uplugging the 240v on the tivo ?
It may be some issue with identifying the SBS PID,s with the tivo, might be worth  a call to SBS if you can stand the wait etc.
Sounds like youv'e made some progress apart from the tivo
Tazzy

[timx]

No I havn't tried a factory reset yet, It will be my last choice because I have lots of season passes setup that I don't really want to loose. I have emailed Tivo support for some assistance, will wait and see what they recommend.

Out of interest, If i were to upgrade my UHF antenna for the Forster transmitter which Hills model would you recommend? what is the difference between the TruSpec and the TMX model is? is the TruSpec made more for digital signals? Also what frequency range will it be - Myswitch doesnt have them listed for Forster?

[nbound]

As far as your antenna is concerned there is no difference between analog and digital. A 50yr old antenna can pick up digital if its an appropriate antenna and in good condition.

[M'bozo]

timx, on 04 July 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

Out of interest, If i were to upgrade my UHF antenna for the Forster transmitter which Hills model would you recommend? what is the difference between the TruSpec and the TMX model is? is the TruSpec made more for digital signals? Also what frequency range will it be - Myswitch doesnt have them listed for Forster?

I would suggest this one. Click on the various headings for information.

As I mentioned before, any UHF antenna with a wire balun is old school. I never re-use them.

The channels for Forster should be covered by the suggested antenna, when they are finally decided.

[timx]

Hi

finally resolved the sbs problem. It appears the Tivo channel scan may not have been scanning 205.5 I was able to add the channels manullay with a scan of 205.5 The 205.5 is actually listed at the bottom of all the other frequencies so Im not sure if this was a late entry or something?

Anyway all resolved and I have a good setup for now. Thanks to everyone for the help and advice, cheers

[Tazzy2Heads]

Probably at the end of the normal channel scan because it is channel  9A squeezed in between 9 and 10 and the way China man
wrote program etc, earlier Nextwave set top boxes and others scan over 9A in normal auto tune and then scan 9A after the others and put 9A at the end of the list.Some other boxes would not find 9A at all in auto tune and it had to be tuned in manually. It used
to create grief to the customers who 'new it all' and retuned their boxes themselves at the drop of a hat and 'volla' no vhf SBS
I used to love it when the boxes had a cumulative channel count unless you did a reset and the channels found count was sometimes around 500 or more . They would put in a few weeks of tuning and antenna playing before calling some one as a last
resort.   Ah the good old days, gone forever !!
cheers Tazzy

[alanh]

Tazzy2Heads,
Obviously these products do not conform to Australian Standard 4933 and the ACMA should have made it compulsory to ensure all programs can be received.

Consider this
European channel 5 = Australian channel 6
European channel 6 = Australian channel 7
European channel 7 = Australian channel 8
European channel 8 = Australian channel 9
European channel 9 = Australian channel 9A
European channel 10 = Australian channel 10
European channel 11 = Australian channel 11
European channel 12 = Australian channel 12

These channels are identical between European and Australian. The only change in programming is the labelling.
It is the UHF channels which are different.

When the digital restack occurs, channels 9 and 9A will be allocated to digital radio.

AlanH

Edited by alanh, 06 July 2012 - 08:23 PM.

[alanh]

Quote

nbound
Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:37 AM
"Will" it? Early switchovers are notorious for delays.

As predicted
http://news.digitalr...n-early-switch/

Better to talk facts than .....

AlanH

[nbound]

alanh, on 31 August 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

As predicted
http://news.digitalr...owearly-switch/

Better to talk facts than .....

AlanH

Oh alanh, if you had the slightest clue you'd realise that just because one or even a majority of early switchover sites switch at approximately the correct date, it doesnt mean they all do. As I said earlier, and Im sure most technicians here would also agree, early switchover sites are notorious for delays. This is generally why even in official documentation its uncommon to get an unqualified exact date until after the fact. (eg. We will advise if broadcasters change the date - or something to that effect)

Edited by nbound, 31 August 2012 - 06:24 PM.

[CWulf]

C'mon nbound. Give Alan the credit of finally getting one prediction right!

[nbound]

CWulf, on 31 August 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

C'mon nbound. Give Alan the credit of finally getting one prediction right!

Haha. Ill give him that much