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[alanh]

IGLOO pay TV is a joint venture by SKY and TVNZ

They will be using DVB-T2 to cover the homes which do not have cable or satellite.

The transmitters will be installed by Kordia as a single frequency network.

38.9 Mbit/s data bandwidth will be transmitted at the same power at the existing transmission sites.

The UHF TV channels is 8 MHz wide.

The coverage area is expected to be the same as existing DVB-T transmissions.

The video compression will be MPEG-4 is the same as their existing DTV transmissions.

Irdeto Cloaked CA is a fully featured and renewable cardless conditional access solution that will enable IGLOO to deliver this content securely, while avoiding the hassle and cost associated with swapping out or replacing smart cards. As part of the agreement, Irdeto will also provide full implementation and testing of the solution.

The source I used is not generally available.

AlanH

Edited by alanh, 22 June 2012 - 01:40 PM.

[DrP]

Your source may not be 'generally available' but that sort of boast (and yes alanh, this is an example of a boast) counts for little when the information is already in the public arena.

[GoForMoe]

http://www.dvb.org/a...de/new_zealand/ is a great place to hide information about new DVB rollouts.

[DrP]

SSSSSSSHHHHHH!   The source is NOT generally available!

[nbound]

Except for the Cardless Irdeto, wasnt this posted/discussed in another thread not that long ago?

Edited by nbound, 22 June 2012 - 07:31 PM.

[alanh]

More details
http://www.igloo.co.nz/pages/home.php

Note that it is pre-pay when using cardles Irdeto

http://irdeto.com/do...IUCGen_EN_L.pdf

AlanH

[Malich]

GoForMoe, on 22 June 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

http://www.dvb.org/a...de/new_zealand/ is a great place to hide information about new DVB rollouts.

DrP, on 22 June 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

SSSSSSSHHHHHH!   The source is NOT generally available!

nbound, on 22 June 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Except for the Cardless Irdeto, wasnt this posted/discussed in another thread not that long ago?

To be fair, guys, check the date on that last press release there. That's where Alan got the last thread he posted about this. And that time he acknowledged dvb.org as the source, although without citing / linking the specific press release.

This one would seem to be based on a couple of press releases that've been on the PR feeds (e.g. IP&TV News, Pipeline, PRBuzz, etc) for the last day or two. Root source would seem to be Platform PR, "a specialist PR agency for broadcast, media, digital television and telecoms technology companies".

This forum already has a section for RSS news feeds. Alan could easily be replaced by one. Mods?

(edit: corrected Pipeline link.)

Edited by Malich, 23 June 2012 - 04:08 PM.

[DrP]

alanh is well known for posting stale information Malich and if all this was it wouldn't have raised an eyebrow with me.  The lame-o part of it is him stating that the source was not generally available when the information has been in the public arena for some time now.

I don't know what the motivation but alanh seems to have a deep desire to big-note himself.  IIRC one of the earlier instances of this was him declaring that he 'fixed' the audio sync problem on the HD channel post WIN's take over of 9 Perth.  We all know he had nothing to do with the fix (WIN had already announced a fix was in progress waiting on parts) but that didn't stop him repeating the claim then and several times over the intervening period.  It wouldn't at all surprise me to see him do it again in the near future.

[Malich]

No need to keep explaining it to me; although I haven't been questioning it for as long as you have, it has been several years now! You may remember such classics as "DVB-T2 requires MPEG-4", the ever-popular "CSIRO invented COFDM", and many other "please back up your claims, even if you do it with non-public sources - you're not the only one with industry connections, society membership, and journal access" threads.

I seem to uniquely annoy alan, though, and I know he's been searching trying to find out who I actually am (you don't stumble across a 9-year-old orphaned single entry on Urban Dictionary - let alone try to use it as an insult on this forum! - by mistake). I don't care; I'd just like him to deal honestly and as an equal with people on this forum. If he continually refuses to do that, I'll continue to (reasonably) respectfully disagree with him by using verifiable facts and questioning him on his unverified statements.

If and when he starts acting like a normal and reasonable educated adult, rather than a spoiled self-absorbed schoolbrat, it'll be a pleasant change from (as you say) continually attempting to big-note himself though reposted press releases from "not generally available" sources, making easily-refutable claims well beyond the limits of his actual knowledge, and endlessly repetitive pushing of his own personal wheelbarrows of opinion as undeniable facts and must-do necessities (e.g. DVB-T2, MPEG-4, DAB+, DRM30, etc, etc).

[DrP]

Not that it's relevant to this thread but something I've known for ages has just resurfaced upon re-reading the COFDM thread.  alanh was bashing on about DSPs of the era not being capable of 8k mode (of course this was incorrect), but what alanh may not have realised (even though he claimed that DVB-t in Australia used 2k mode in some of his early posts on the subect) is that the initial large scale use of DVB-t (UK's terrestrial pay system which failed and became their freeview system) was done with 2k mode.  This greatly expanded the range of DSPs that could be used for demodulation at that time.

[Malich]

A bit of a note on that here (unfortunately undated, but it pre-dates the UK launch).

IIRC, some of Bris31's digital trials or early broadcasts were also done using 2k mode. Or am I thinking of the local ATV group?

[Digital Penetration]

Malich, on 23 June 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

IIRC, some of Bris31's digital trials or early broadcasts were also done using 2k mode. Or am I thinking of the local ATV group?

Why not ask alanh?

[alanh]

Funny about COFDM,
Regardless of what Malich said, the CSIRO are making hundreds of millions a year in patent rights for their invention.

Alanh

[MLXXX]

As discussed in detail in another thread, that patent was not for the "invention of COFDM". The princples of COFDM had already been developed (in various stages) in prior years.

[DrP]

Funny how alanh keeps repeating the same mistakes, funny but expected.