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#1 matty66

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 04:12 PM

For years, I've been using my trusty Pioneer DVD recorder, which allowed me to record analogue TV broadcasts, edit the recorded shows and then burn to DVD. Unfortunately, the analogue signal where I live was which off on the 5th June. I am looking at buying a new unit. The features I am after are:

   - Record 2 different digital channels at the same time,
   - Ability to edit the recordings (i.e. remove padding and TV commercials)
   - Output these to an external drive into an .avi / .mkv or other popular format to play on another unit (I wanted to get away from burning DVD disks).

I don't want much do I! I was looking at the Panasonic DMR-BWT720 / DMR-BWT820 and do exactly what I want expect the models record into Proprietary format on the hard drive. As I understand it, these recordings can only be played on that unit or on another Panasonic Unit, as you have to 'register' the hard drives that you connect.

If there is an option available to pull off the recorded content onto an external hard drive and then convert it to a popular format on a computer would be a long way around, but I would be happy with that - its just as extra step, but would prefer if the unit did the conversion for me (I suffer from poor time availability).

So I am wondering if the features that I am after are available with any DVR or DVD recorder currently on the market in Australia?

Or am I just dreaming and should stick to units that burn DVDs - if I want to pull the recording off the unit for use elsewhere?
Any help is greatly appreciated!

#2 bassett

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 04:17 PM

one word reply,,    "BEYONWIZ"

Will do everything you require

#3 audiohobbs

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 04:56 PM

Beyonwiz are excellent, reliable and have huge disks in the DP-P2; later Topfields (7160 / 7170 / 2460) are also good, especially if you would like quad channel recording. There are cheaper 2.0 channel DVRs which have their fans, but I would be tempted not to stray from the two mentioned here. My Toppy 5000 (SD) model has only just given up after seven years (replaced by a 7160); my Wiz DP-P1 is still going strong, hasn't skipped a beat in four years' use.

#4 swordfish805

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 05:38 PM

Another vote for the wiz - and it will do a lot more than a DVD recorder (just don't expect to use it for looking at photos and as a music player it is pretty average).

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:34 PM

Plenty of good info here matty ;especially if audio is out of sync;  

http://forum.videohe...and-stay-sync-d

http://www.videohelp...MPEG-StreamClip

#6 matty66

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:12 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. I am looking at the Beyonwiz DP-P2 - if I can find one - I can only seem to purchase from the dealspace website as on dealer in Canberra have them. One salesperson at the Good Guys in Canberra said they have gone bust? Are they looking at sticking around in the Australian market for awhile?

If no luck there, I am going to go the Topfield 2460...

Sorry... another dump question... I am a newbie... so take it easy on me... I only know enough to get me into trouble.

Will the DP-P2 or the 2460 output to a normal file format... a format that I have to convert to play elsewhere (sorry... I don't understand the TS / PS concept). I want to be able to play on a WD TV Live Streaming Media Player. The WD Live player is capable of playing AVI (Xvid, AVC, MPEG1/2/4), MPG/MPEG, VOB, FLV (h.264), MKV (h.264, x.264, AVC, MPEG1/2/4, VC-1), TS/TP/M2T (MPEG1/2/4, AVC, VC-1), MP4/MOV (MPEG4, h.264), M2TS, WMV9.

I think it will allow me without any conversions?

Again thanks for help out.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:33 AM

I don't think BW are going anywhere soon. Its apparently a bit fraught getting products onto retail shelves and I believe most of the non multi national brands have found its better business selling over the internet. You can probably get various models ordered in to a store however you'll likely just end up paying more for the service.

You can't play BW files direct, however if you use a PC tool called WizFX to offload programs from the Wiz to the PC then you should be able to play those files direct to a media player (the WDLive plays TS files direct). FWIW in a mixed media / PVR household it can be simpler just to keep the two separate - plenty of space on the Wiz to store favourite shows etc.

Regards

Peter Gillespie

Edited by pgdownload, 12 June 2012 - 08:36 AM.


#8 swordfish805

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:19 AM

Big retail chains routinely require manufacturers to pay advertising "contributions" and the like before they stock goods, include them in catalogues, put them in prominent spaces in the store etc.  Another common ploy is FUD - telling potential customers a disaster awaits if they buy a product the chain does not stock or promote.