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[jliang70]

laurie, on 09 November 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

If you are watching fta its a waste of money if you have Foxtel HD,or watching lots of Bluray then its worth the effort to get it calibrated

cheers laurie

So is that your opinion Lumagen is only good for upscaling and de-interlace just SD stuff, well that is part of the package.  Lumagen can do a lot more than that. It has more effective control and capability built into it than any TV on the market.  It give you far more effective control in fine tuning greyscale, better control of gamma tracking and a working cms which is lacking even with the best Panasonic VT50 plasma.   Personally I think Panasonic ST is by far the best value TV in Panasonic range but it has limited calibration control it lacks VT's 10 point greyscale and cms,   In my opinion ST and Lumagen will easily given the edge in PQ to ST over VT after calibration.  It is worth calibrate the TV regardless what type viewing material you are watching.

Edited by jliang70, 09 November 2012 - 10:30 PM.

[jliang70]

Owen, on 09 November 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

Plasma TV's drift very little after the initial "run in" period so if people wait 100 hours or so before getting a calibration done it will not need doing again for years.

Those who are planing on a Lumagen processor are wasting their money on a VT IMHO, may as well save the cash and go for the ST.
An ST can be calibrated to be so close to a calibrated VT that it does not matter even without a Lumagen, with a Lumagen they are effectively identical.

Well, according to someone who actually saw VT by itself and VT with Lumagen the later was better after calibration.  In my opinion what lumagen will bring to a ST is far more comprehensive calibration features and more effective calibration tools than those on a panasonic VT.

[Owen]

You missed the point, why pay extra for a VT if you are going to use a Lumagen or similar processor? Start with an ST and you end up with the same calibrated end result for a lot less money.

[jliang70]

Owen, on 12 November 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

You missed the point, why pay extra for a VT if you are going to use a Lumagen or similar processor? Start with an ST and you end up with the same calibrated end result for a lot less money.

I don't think I missed the point.  I know with VT the lumagen will also improve the overall result but the improvement will be less than with ST.  With ST lumagen will add a more comprehensive calibration control than the standard VT, a well implemented and fully working CMS.  For both VT and ST it will add better gamma tracking you probably know the gamma related issues with panasonic plasmas.  ST's own calibration setting is well short of VT,  it has a two point greyscale adjustment at IRE30 and IRE80 points, no cms and both unit will give you preset gamma at different gamma level but no gamma tracking like you see in your JVC X3.

[Owen]

Do you think anyone will be able to reliably pick the image created by a calibrated VT50-Lumagen combination as being "better" than the image provided by an ST-Lumagen combination?  I would not be able to and thats why I dont see much point in paying extra for a VT if a Lumagen is going to be used and the system calibrated.

[holden caulfield]

Am trying to decide between the TH-L47DT50A (quoted $1300 from HN Fyshwick) and the TH-L47ET5A (quoted $960 from JB Fyshwick) but unsure if price diff makes the DT50A worthwhile.

I'm not totally sure of the differences between the two aside from active and passive 3D, which I can't say I'm too bothered about in any case. Am just about to head to Pana website to pore over details/specs but happy for anyone to share their knowledge here.

For ref I currently have a 42" Pana plasma (3-4 yrs old) and am very happy with its PQ but circumstances dictate I need a new TV and am happy to stick with Pana, unless can be convinced otherwise.

Price of the DT50A is at the upper end of my current budget and will also be getting a Pana BluRay/PVR. Another reason I'm happy to stick with a Pana TV.

Am a little nervous these new LED LCD TVs won't handle AFL and F1 as well as the Plasma but can't go any bigger than 47" due to space requirements.

Very keen for any feedback that you may have.

TIA

(FWIW just read through some old threads and I picked up my Pana TH-42PZ800A in Sep 2008.)

Edited by holden caulfield, 20 January 2013 - 04:28 PM.

[holden caulfield]

Hmm, have just figured out that I *can* squeeze a Pana 50" plasma into my allocated space. The dimensions of the TVs are approx 1185mm wide and my space is 1300mm wide.

So maybe that will rule out the LCD option anyway, budget permitting???

[Owen]

Buy/hire a chain saw and make room.

Edited by Owen, 21 January 2013 - 08:05 PM.

[holden caulfield]

Haha, good advice. After a lot of running around I ended up getting the P50ST50A from Good Guys Fyshwick for $1168. Only store in Canberra I came across with stock, everyone else was quoting a 2 week wait.