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[ranant]

Recently set up my HC4900 and have viewed 2 blu-ray discs(Blackhawk Down and Commando) via Hdmi.Both appear grainey.Normal dvds i have watched appear to have better resoluton.Any thoughts on this one.
Cheers

[digitalj]

How Long is the HDMI Cable?

[The D-Train]

ranant, on Jan 21 2009, 08:02 PM, said:

Recently set up my HC4900 and have viewed 2 blu-ray discs(Blackhawk Down and Commando) via Hdmi.Both appear grainey.Normal dvds i have watched appear to have better resoluton.Any thoughts on this one.
Cheers

commando wasnt a good transfer from memory but Black Hawk Down was ok.  I remember commenting that I wasnt blown away by BHD (which was my first BD) although others here think its great.  Try something like The Dark Knight, casino royale, hellboy, I am legend etc those titles showed me how good it is.

[halo man]

What blu-ray player are you using?

I have found the opposite with my 1080p projector.

[AndrewW]

ranant, on Jan 21 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

Any thoughts on this one.

Something weird in your setup.

Black Hawk Down looks fantastic (don't have commando, so can't comment).

Obviously the night time scenes are going to have some level of grain, that is simply to be expected when you shoot on film at night.

[yorac]

AndrewW, on Jan 21 2009, 08:42 PM, said:

Something weird in your setup.

Black Hawk Down looks fantastic (don't have commando, so can't comment).

Obviously the night time scenes are going to have some level of grain, that is simply to be expected when you shoot on film at night.

Actually mate I think some of the night time scenes in BHD are some of the best about

[ranant]

halo man, on Jan 21 2009, 08:39 PM, said:

What blu-ray player are you using?

I have found the opposite with my 1080p projector.

   Samsung BD 1500

[ranant]

digitalj, on Jan 21 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

How Long is the HDMI Cable?

  10 metres

[MarkH]

BHd has an amazingly accurate transfer, but keep in mind on this disc the grain is artistic intent on the director's part, for the look he was trying to achieve. Commando is simply an older movie and wasnt treated with a lot of importance by the studio, hence the "grain" youre experiencing.

[ranant]

MarkH, on Jan 21 2009, 09:10 PM, said:

BHd has an amazingly accurate transfer, but keep in mind on this disc the grain is artistic intent on the director's part, for the look he was trying to achieve. Commando is simply an older movie and wasnt treated with a lot of importance by the studio, hence the "grain" youre experiencing.

  Thanks heaps for youre input.

[MarkTecher]

ranant, on Jan 21 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

Recently set up my HC4900 and have viewed 2 blu-ray discs(Blackhawk Down and Commando) via Hdmi.Both appear grainey.Normal dvds i have watched appear to have better resoluton.Any thoughts on this one.
Cheers

Also becuase of the high rez of BD, the grain is more clear.  Get yourself a copy of 300, Miami Vice or even Transformers on both SD (DVD) and HD (BD) and see the difference.  In these instances, your supposed to see the grainm as it part of the artistic side of film making...

Mark

[milo]

I had problems with my JVC HD1 and BD1500 with a 12.5 metre run.  1080p looked very grainy but setting the resolution to 1080i made a vast improvement

[oztheatre]

MarkTecher, on Jan 22 2009, 10:52 AM, said:

Also becuase of the high rez of BD, the grain is more clear.  Get yourself a copy of 300, Miami Vice or even Transformers on both SD (DVD) and HD (BD) and see the difference.  In these instances, your supposed to see the grainm as it part of the artistic side of film making...

Mark

High ISO film stock? used to bring out more detail in darker areas. Watch Rattaouie, there is no grain at all (because there was nothing to film)
You can create image noise or grain with a digital camera if you alter the ISO settings, especially at night time.
300 was intentionally grainy to emulate the comic book style it originated from...  The rest I put down to film stock, bad transfers, poor cables unable to handle the pixel clock rate of 1080p and also dvd players which can vary quite a bit as far as noise goes.. Add to that high grade lenses on projectors that also pickup exactly what's on the disc..