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youngm, on 11 April 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

I think it'd look funny having 3 walls chocolate brown and one wall velvet black?!

While my room is mainly blue themes, I use the same VERY dark flat blue for the ceiling and front wall, with the sides being a few shades lighter, some paint, some curtains, but all the same hue. I think it works quite well actually!  

Here's a link to some pictures.....

http://www.dtvforum....dpost&p=1580778

[youngm]

:), on 12 April 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

am very happy with mine, theres a whole owners thread of feedback here if want to have a read, http://www.dtvforum....showtopic=96575 have posted quite a few screen shots as well myself so can get a bit of a feel of what its capable off

OK I will, thanks.

Can you elaborate on the Anamorphic capabilities of the Epson?  I assume it's suitable for a scope screen using some sort of zoom function?

Advice appreciated!

[ajm]

youngm, on 13 April 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

OK I will, thanks.

Can you elaborate on the Anamorphic capabilities of the Epson?  I assume it's suitable for a scope screen using some sort of zoom function?

Advice appreciated!

The Epson will zoom manually so if you need to switch between 16:9 and 2.35:1 you'll have to get up out of your chair to do it.

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youngm, on 13 April 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

OK I will, thanks.

Can you elaborate on the Anamorphic capabilities of the Epson?  I assume it's suitable for a scope screen using some sort of zoom function?

Advice appreciated!

as per my previous post the anamorphic capability of the epson is basically the anamorphic modes for use with a lens, as done by vierra4 otherwise if have a peep in that owners thread you will see most are just using 16:9 screen. And will see some screen shots of mine of scope material on my 16:9 screen and there no modes/zooms anamorphic capability or lens required. The pj just displays scope or 16:9 or any other aspect ratio presented. otherwise as suggested by ajm you manually can zoom. essentially its the same in this regard as the benq DLPs

my suggestion if wondering about pjs while can read some stuff on the net, best thing can do is head out and check out for yourself. can then see what they do play around with modes etc. will soon get a pretty good handle which will best suit your need. and look theres a lot of good pjs out their. each wiht their own plusses and minuses but as you'll find theres many happy owners of all sorts. so just matter finding what is best for you

[youngm]

ajm, on 13 April 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

The Epson will zoom manually so if you need to switch between 16:9 and 2.35:1 you'll have to get up out of your chair to do it.

Oh right

Think I prefer the JVC's lense memory function then. Just need to figure out the HDMI wiring in the groud floor room

[bbar]

youngm, on 13 April 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

Oh right

Think I prefer the JVC's lense memory function then. Just need to figure out the HDMI wiring in the groud floor room

Wiring can be a problem depending on how beams run and where u put equipment.

May need to put in a bulkhead for all wiring.

[blybo]

youngm, on 11 April 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

Do you guys also recommend painting the wall where the screen is located velvet black too?

I think it'd look funny having 3 walls chocolate brown and one wall velvet black?!

Cough, cough.


The "stage area" is an almost black brown colour called aniseed. As a comparison the black videlio(sp?) velvet screen surround is as black as you can get. Works well with the lighter brown on the walls and rear portion of ceiling.

Hoping to finish the painting aspect of the room over the next week... It's taken WAY to long. The cornice is now done, just need to do window frames and skirting.

Edited by blybo, 13 April 2012 - 04:11 PM.

[ajm]

(OT) Blybo, you'll probably find your centre works better sitting flat and raised to be in line with the tweeter on your mains.  You might check with Trevor Lees about his design but I'm pretty sure he'll have made it to disperse horizontally.

If you've already tried this and prefer it standing vertically then, by all means, disregard this comment.  Or just disregard it generally

[blybo]

Mark Techer got me to put it this way as apparently it's not a true horizontally designed array. I'm not sure I can tell the difference either way to be honest. You've reminded my I need to finish off that centre channel stand before I give the mitre saw back.

Sorry to highjack the thread. Resume normal bickering, I mean broadcasting...

[bbar]

ajm, on 13 April 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

(OT) Blybo, you'll probably find your centre works better sitting flat and raised to be in line with the tweeter on your mains.  You might check with Trevor Lees about his design but I'm pretty sure he'll have made it to disperse horizontally.

If you've already tried this and prefer it standing vertically then, by all means, disregard this comment.  Or just disregard it generally

Lol, I would agree and Matt has a good stand for centres.

[bbar]

blybo, on 13 April 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Cough, cough.


The "stage area" is an almost black brown colour called aniseed. As a comparison the black videlio(sp?) velvet screen surround is as black as you can get. Works well with the lighter brown on the walls and rear portion of ceiling.

Hoping to finish the painting aspect of the room over the next week... It's taken WAY to long. The cornice is now done, just need to do window frames and skirting.

Yep, I think the front wall being black also would work. Will give it a go also.

[ajm]

blybo, on 13 April 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

Mark Techer got me to put it this way as apparently it's not a true horizontally designed array. I'm not sure I can tell the difference either way to be honest. You've reminded my I need to finish off that centre channel stand before I give the mitre saw back.

Sorry to highjack the thread. Resume normal bickering, I mean broadcasting...

Cool.

[blybo]

bbar, on 13 April 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Yep, I think the front wall being black also would work. Will give it a go also.

Yeah, I would of gone black too but apparently the SWMBO has plans to use the room for other purposes... Can't imagine what, it's taken us nearly 6 months to paint the bloody room.

[pooluu]

youngm, on 11 April 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

I haven't actually looked at any color charts as yet, but will be going darkest brown I can... maybe even do all four walls a textured matte velvet effect?

Carpet will be a dark brown too.

BTW, just slightly off topic, this formal dining room is downstairs (double storey home) and obviously needs to be wired for this setup.  Any idea how I'm going to get the wiring in place for this setup?  Please don't tell me I have to remove the plaster walls and ceiling to wire all the speaker and HDMI cables and have it all re-plastered again?

Thats alot of brown, may seen like ur sitting inside a big square easter egg

[youngm]

oztheatre, on 11 April 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

You'll be fine at 120 scope zoomed. I have a 140 scope zoomed with the X70 on normal lamp mode and it's more than bright enough.
Wouldn't worry too much about the spreadsheets and online calculators.. They're just there to confuse you

Ok just checked. Room of 4500 long, projector 470 long, allow 100mm at the back for cable curl and some air flow, leaves you with 3.93 metres from projectors lens to screen.
At max zoom you can get maximum image width of 2800 which is just short of a 120 scope screen. Now given that you would push the soft edge onto the velvet frame by say 20mm each side, leaves an active image width of 2760 at full zoom... So i'd say 115-118 scope will be the only doable size based on 3.93 throw.

If you push it back to leave 50mm at the back, you could just go 120 scope with a 2840 wide image at full zoom. Best to be safe and go around the 115.

Better still, set it up and put the screen in last after you know what will work.

OK fellas, I have figured out how I can get a full 4.5m throw distance in this room!

On the other side of the wall (thankfully it's exactly centered) is a microwave tower and oven.  Just above the microwave pigeon hole is a plaster section (approx 700mm wide x 500mm high x 750mm deep) all the way to the ceiling.  It would be hollow wasted space currently.

I'm thinking I might get a carpenter to build me a pigeon hole on the other side of the microwave tower, higher and closer to the ceiling so I can slot the projector into the pigeon hole so I can make use of the full 4.5m depth / throw distance this room can offer.

If I do this, can you please tell me what maximum size scope image I can get with the DLA-X30 at a throw of 4.5m?  The far wall where the scope screen will be mounted to is 3.84m wide x 2.55m high.  

Is a 130" scope image feasible at 4.5m throw with this PJ if zoomed in?

If so, what would be the max size of a 16:9 image on this 130" scope screen?

Advice appreciated

Edited by youngm, 19 April 2012 - 12:14 AM.

[bbar]

youngm, on 19 April 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

OK fellas, I have figured out how I can get a full 4.5m throw distance in this room!

On the other side of the wall (thankfully it's exactly centered) is a microwave tower and oven.  Just above the microwave pigeon hole is a plaster section (approx 700mm wide x 500mm high x 750mm deep) all the way to the ceiling.  It would be hollow wasted space currently.

I'm thinking I might get a carpenter to build me a pigeon hole on the other side of the microwave tower, higher and closer to the ceiling so I can slot the projector into the pigeon hole so I can make use of the full 4.5m depth / throw distance this room can offer.

If I do this, can you please tell me what maximum size scope image I can get with the DLA-X30 at a throw of 4.5m?  The far wall where the scope screen will be mounted to is 3.84m wide x 2.55m high.  

Is a 130" scope image feasible at 4.5m throw with this PJ if zoomed in?

If so, what would be the max size of a 16:9 image on this 130" scope screen?

Advice appreciated

Go here and you can do yourself - http://www.projector...culator-pro.htm

130" would be fine and 16:9 image would be 106".

What type of speakers do you have as there would not be much room on either side of screen if they were floorstanders.

Probably 32cm either side after the frame is taken into account.

[youngm]

bbar, on 19 April 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

Go here and you can do yourself - http://www.projector...culator-pro.htm 130" would be fine and 16:9 image would be 106". What type of speakers do you have as there would not be much room on either side of screen if they were floorstanders. Probably 32cm either side after the frame is taken into account.

My plan is to use Jamo D500 or D600 THX Select2 5.1 speakers, with the speakers mounted just underneath the screen within the 16:9 boundary.

[bbar]

youngm, on 19 April 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

My plan is to use Jamo D500 or D600 THX Select2 5.1 speakers, with the speakers mounted just underneath the screen within the 16:9 boundary.

That should work just fine.

With 2.55 ceiling height then allow 175 cm for projecting image and black bars on walls leaving 80 cm from floor for speakers. Speakers are 30cm so they would be fine on  50cm stands.

[mr-happy-pants]

Great idea

Consider mounting it as close to the vertical centre of your screen position as possible, if possible.

Re screen size; why not get the PJ in place first, & project image onto the wall where the screen will go.
This will allow you to validate what size will work for you before buying a screen.

[youngm]

Good idea.  I think 130" would be sweet for this room.

Anyone got an idea how much it would roughly cost to have a rectangular niche made in the plaster wall?

The dimensions of this niche / recess should be approx 350mm high x 580mm wide x 600mm deep.  Should be plenty enough for a decent PJ.  I'll fit a vent in the niche too so hot air can escape into the wall / ceiling cavity.

Hey bbar, is it better to use speaker stands for the Jamos, or mount them directly to the wall?

Edited by youngm, 19 April 2012 - 09:17 PM.

[bbar]

youngm, on 19 April 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Good idea.  I think 130" would be sweet for this room.

Anyone got an idea how much it would roughly cost to have a rectangular niche made in the plaster wall?

The dimensions of this niche / recess should be approx 350mm high x 580mm wide x 600mm deep.  Should be plenty enough for a decent PJ.  I'll fit a vent in the niche too so hot air can escape into the wall / ceiling cavity.

Hey bbar, is it better to use speaker stands for the Jamos, or mount them directly to the wall?

either should be fine and probably easiest to wall mount.. Definitely cheaper.

[youngm]

bbar, on 20 April 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

either should be fine and probably easiest to wall mount.. Definitely cheaper.

Thanks... I think I will wall mount so it looks clean and neat.

Anyone got an idea how much it would roughly cost to have a rectangular niche made in the plaster wall for the PJ housing?

[Owen]

Make sure you evaluate some of the many quality 16:9 titles at 130" before committing to a 130" scope screen.
In my experience ALL the best high visual quality titles are 16:9, limiting them to 106" is a crying shame.

[BladeRnR]

Owen, on 20 April 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Make sure you evaluate some of the many quality 16:9 titles at 130" before committing to a 130" scope screen.
In my experience ALL the best high visual quality titles are 16:9, limiting them to 106" is a crying shame.

It's said there are only 2 certainties in life - Death & Taxes.

The third is we can count on you to make sweeping generalizations such as "ALL the best high visual titles are 16:9".

Pure, unadulterated, rot. I thought we were done with this sort of thing about 200 threads ago Owen.

For the love of all that is sacred GIVE IT A REST! - I'm certain the pig skin on that drum of yours is well and truly up for replacement.

Blade

Edited by BladeRnR, 21 April 2012 - 07:43 PM.

[Owen]

BladeRnR, on 21 April 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

"ALL the best high quality titles are 16:9".

I note you misquoted me, what I said was " ALL the best high visual quality titles are 16:9" I chose my words carefully so as not to confuse.


Please name just one title shot with an anamorphic lenses that can match what is possible with IMAX film shot with spherical lenses or even 35mm shot with spherical lenses.

Remember I am specifically talking and technical aspects of image quality here like sharpness and detail. Its technically not possible for anything shot with a scope lens to match what is possible with spherical lens even with 35mm, IMAX is in a different league, like it or not. I therefore stand by my statement without reservation.

Edited by Owen, 21 April 2012 - 05:28 PM.