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[XxDeadlyxX]

I would say that it is almost certainly 2.35:1 OAR since it would be the same Universal disc released in other territories such as the US where it is OAR... and Universal are known to sometimes list incorrect OAR.

Update: Two new additions:

Mother's Day (Reel) - UK version is OAR
The Adventures of Tintin (Madman) - cropped from 4x3 to 16x9

[Bosch]

XxDeadlyxX, on Jan 4 2012, 12:33 PM, said:

I would say that it is almost certainly 2.35:1 OAR since it would be the same Universal disc released in other territories such as the US where it is OAR... and Universal are known to sometimes list incorrect OAR.

It is 2.35:1, or at least looks like it. Having bought it, I will probably switch to the Criterion for the slightly better (less edge-enhanced) transfer.

[AzagTh0tH]

I had sent Eagle Entertainment an email asking why they don't always issue their blurays in OAR. Happily I received a response, which is more than I can say for Roadshow and Sony who did not bother to reply.

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Thanks for your feedback.

I have passed your comments on to the department responsible.

Unfortunately this is one of those areas where you can't please everyone and
as one of the smaller players in the market we cannot afford to acquire
multiple masters to cover all the different content distribution channels we
need to satisfy.

Craig Nicholls
Sales & Marketing
Eagle Entertainment
craign@eagleentertainment.com.au

[XxDeadlyxX]

So it is a budget issue.... interesting.

[XxDeadlyxX]

Update: New addition:

Dylan Dog: Dead of Night (Reel Entertainment) - US version is OAR

[XxDeadlyxX]

Thought I would post an update to this thread since it's been a while - yes I am still borrowing and looking out for suspect local titles that may be cropped... haven't found one for a little while which is a good thing. But for every good one I check, there are bound to be more bad ones.

Have some good news though - picked up The Hunter today which I was really looking forward to watching, and can report that it is OAR 2.35:1 with great PQ, and LPCM 5.1 soundtrack. Very impressed and would recommend the movie!!

[XxDeadlyxX]

Update: New Addition:

The Butterfly Effect 3: Revelations (Icon) - open matte & reframing - US version is OAR - more picture info on top/bottom, less on sides

I actually had this one in my collection for a while but never got a chance to view it.

By the way these ones with less on the sides are almost as bad as ones that are put into the 'Cropped' section (those have no extra top info that's the difference), this typically happens when the film is either shot on Super35 or digital, and they mess around with the framing for the Blu-ray release.

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 06 March 2012 - 01:05 PM.

[Bosch]

After deciding to buy A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT from Umbrella, I checked a review I read a ways back of the US release. It appears to have the OAR of 1.85:1 as per IMDB (i.e. slightly letterboxed on 16:9).

A local review of the Umbrella release says it's 1.66:1. It did say the picture quality was comparable to the US disc, but it sounds like Umbrella may have used a Euro transfer? Anyway, it's something to consider.

[XxDeadlyxX]

Thanks for the info, so can you confirm the AU version is 1.66:1 versus the US's 1.85:1? That might be a mistake... imdb does not mention 1.66:1 so it is possible that the AU is in fact 1.85:1 but the information the reviewer gave is wrong. Anyone know?

By the way I borrowed 'Trespass' (Nicole Kidman, Nic Cage) today, a local Roadshow new release title, and I can happily confirm it is OAR. Hopefully Roadshow are not reframing or cropping new titles these days as much as they used to.

[XxDeadlyxX]

Just borrowed Colombiana (Roadshow), and it is OAR 2.35:1. A good sign that hopefully all new Roadshow releases are OAR.

[athlon]

Watched a Icon double feature disc over the weekend featuring Staten Island & Brooklyn Rules. Staten Island was OAR, However Brooklyn Rules was cropped.

[XxDeadlyxX]

Thanks, sorry guys have been a bit busy lately will update the list soon.

[athlon]

Thanks to Quickflix. Here is three more titles from the past 6 weeks.

The First Grader (Roadshow) Cropped/ Reframing.  Depending on the Scene, there was either heaps of info missing from the Left or the Right.
I Melt With You (Universal). Majority of the film was Open Matte, But I noticed one scene was cropped . US is OAR.
Snow Flower and the Secret Fan (Pinnacle Films). Cropped. US is OAR

[XxDeadlyxX]

Original post updated with all 4 new cropped titles.

Thanks athlon for the very detailed reports on the transfers!! Looks like the aussie studios are still putting out some stinkers.

I borrowed Snow flower last week and noticed it was 1.78 but I did not have the US disc for comparison, thanks for confirming it is cropped.

Edited by XxDeadlyxX, 06 June 2012 - 09:53 PM.

[AzagTh0tH]

Here's two discs that are listed to be incorrect ratios but ARE actually correct on disc.

Exorcismus by Vendetta Films is listed as 1.78:1 but is actually presented in the correct 2.35:1
In the Name of the King by Eagle Entertainment is listed as 1.78:1 but is actually presented in the correct 2.35:1

[gunner9]

AzagTh0tH, on 14 October 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

Here's two discs that are listed to be incorrect ratios but ARE actually correct on disc.

Exorcismus by Vendetta Films is listed as 1.78:1 but is actually presented in the correct 2.35:1
In the Name of the King by Eagle Entertainment is listed as 1.78:1 but is actually presented in the correct 2.35:1

Which in the name of the King movie are you referring to?.  There are 2 In the name of the king movies. One with Jason Statham and one with Dolph Lundgren.  Thanks

[AzagTh0tH]

gunner9, on 29 October 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Which in the name of the King movie are you referring to?.  There are 2 In the name of the king movies. One with Jason Statham and one with Dolph Lundgren.  Thanks

The first one. The disc is fine, the label says it's wrong AR.

[gunner9]

AzagTh0tH, on 29 October 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

The first one. The disc is fine, the label says it's wrong AR.

Awesome thanks.  What did you think of the movie?

[SLE355]

XxDeadlyxX, on 06 March 2011 - 02:14 PM, said:

No.  

Actually the 2.35:1 version seen in theaters was technically cropped, as it was shot in 16:9 and matted to 2.35:1 for some cinemas. So the 1.78:1 ratio on the Blu-ray is the full picture as intended by Cameron.

I'd love a 2.35 version

Edited by SLE355, 10 November 2012 - 11:30 AM.