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[Smacca]

Just a reminder to everyone except Alan;

There are currently 4 digital transmitters in regional WA, sourcing feeds from the Optus D1 satellite. The GWN/WIN/Ten channels on Optus C1 are used only for approved Western VAST direct-to-home satellite viewers, and have never been used for terrestrial transmission. However, they will be used for terrestrial transmission on every site after July this year. But as for now, no site in the state uses feeds from Optus C1 for digital terrestrial retransmission.

[GoForMoe]

alanh, on May 3 2011, 12:22 PM, said:

I agree that VAST stage 1 has now started and that it is not available where the viewer is not in the yellow area of the maps I refered to earlier. Other than Kalgoorlie, Central Agricultural, Karratha and Minginew WA country viewers are yet to get any commercial DTV.

So did those VAST WA transmissions begin? Today? Yesterday? Last Week? Last month? Last Year? VAST WA didn't pop up today, cards didn't start getting activated today. You can't ignore the fact that distinct services began last year to test the WA VAST service, and that those same transmissions have been officially available for a fortnight now.

You kept claiming these are transmitter feeds, but all of a sudden because of the statement this is now VAST?

Up until recently you've still claimed that something is only VAST when it has all 15 channels, so are you wrong, or is everyone else?

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When I was posting, the registration system for WA had not started.

But it had, as evidenced by the fact that some of the people posting had activated VAST cards.

[Smacca]

According to Alan, we're all liars. You, me, DrP, mtv, vk6xlr, MLX, tassiedevil, davmel. Everyone here is a liar, according to Alan.

[mtv]

Smacca, on May 3 2011, 01:52 PM, said:

According to Alan, we're all liars. You, me, DrP, mtv, vk6xlr, MLX, tassiedevil, davmel. Everyone here is a liar, according to Alan.

We all know Alan lives in his own delusional world of denial, completely rejecting fact, favouring his fictional imagination.

I think even forum newbies can see he has no credibility in most of his posts..... very sad really.

[DrP]

Smacca, on May 3 2011, 01:52 PM, said:

According to Alan, we're all liars. You, me, DrP, mtv, vk6xlr, MLX, tassiedevil, davmel. Everyone here is a liar, according to Alan.

Oh its worse than that.  According to alanh, you are all me!   Anyway, to give someone a reminder about the lesson from the infamous SPIRIT and RED incident:

• embarrassment - the shame you feel when your inadequacy or guilt is made public

Perhaps it would be best for alanh to simply fall silent on this latest fiasco of his to avoid further embarrassment, in much the same way he fell silent in the above mentioned thread.

[Smacca]

DrP, on May 4 2011, 05:03 AM, said:

Oh its worse than that.  According to alanh, you are all me!   Anyway, to give someone a reminder about the lesson from the infamous SPIRIT and RED incident:

• embarrassment - the shame you feel when your inadequacy or guilt is made public

Perhaps it would be best for alanh to simply fall silent on this latest fiasco of his to avoid further embarrassment, in much the same way he fell silent in the above mentioned thread.

Fall silent? But that's just a temporary reprieve from the insanity. He should be banned from any forum about satellite television and radio. He's proven that he knows a bit about basic terrestrial broadcasting, but absolutely ziltch about satellite.

Oh, you'd better add to 'The Facts' list that he reckons WA has 5 transmitters. Stuff knows where he got the 5th one from, but he claims there is. We'll probably see a "told you so" style post from him post-Bunbury launch.

I just wish this forum could be used as a point of reference for those seeking information about VAST. It's an absolute discrace that Alan is allowed to continue being a member here.

[Smacca]

Time for a new topic. People won't get much out of this one.

[Jadakas]

Smacca, on May 4 2011, 02:09 PM, said:

Fall silent? But that's just a temporary reprieve from the insanity. He should be banned from any forum about satellite television and radio. He's proven that he knows a bit about basic terrestrial broadcasting, but absolutely ziltch about satellite.

Oh, you'd better add to 'The Facts' list that he reckons WA has 5 transmitters. Stuff knows where he got the 5th one from, but he claims there is. We'll probably see a "told you so" style post from him post-Bunbury launch.

I just wish this forum could be used as a point of reference for those seeking information about VAST. It's an absolute discrace that Alan is allowed to continue being a member here.

Good one Smacca, now you have scared him off and we loose the " Joke Of The Day"   :-)

[domi]

viewer, on Jul 14 2010, 04:32 PM, said:

Well, there you go...the only place to claim a subsidy so far is SA, no other state.
http://bcoms.dbcde.g...y/SelectTown.do
If you are in an eligible state, but not postcode area...go away
If you are an existing Aurora user....go away, but keep your eye on the mysat page.

As for the statement....

"All regional Australians will now receive the same television services as people in the cities," said the Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy.".......yes, but weare not saying when, and only for the people we select, the others can go To Jail, directly to Jail, do not pass go.

If you do not get the MAXIMUM benefit of the various fed. gov. schemes ................ go away and read the f.......... fine print in future! No free VAST installation for you.

If you have a bit more of cash you even lose your part-pension.

[viewer]

domi, on Jun 9 2011, 09:08 AM, said:

If you do not get the MAXIMUM benefit of the various fed. gov. schemes ................ go away and read the f.......... fine print in future! No free VAST installation for you.

If you have a bit more of cash you even lose your part-pension.

And don't forget, if you can get the subsidy anyway, this little rider prevails..
I acknowledge that I am required to make a co-payment of $220 (GST inclusive) to the installer and undertake to make this payment at the time of installation.

Ah really....there is no financial divide between country and city is there ?....NOT

[domi]

viewer, on Jun 9 2011, 01:00 PM, said:

And don't forget, if you can get the subsidy anyway, this little rider prevails..
I acknowledge that I am required to make a co-payment of $220 (GST inclusive) to the installer and undertake to make this payment at the time of installation.

Ah really....there is no financial divide between country and city is there ?....NOT

This makes it even worse. Sen Conroy should really come clean here. $220 co-payment!!! What a joke! This means the gov. with all its spin is really only offering a subsidy of around $50 per eligible household.

The voters are in the city. A small exception is Tasmania, which is a swinging state and gets $1.20 back for every $1.00 in GST and was also the first state to get the NBN.

[domi]

domi, on Jun 12 2011, 07:57 AM, said:

This makes it even worse. Sen Conroy should really come clean here. $220 co-payment!!! What a joke! This means the gov. with all its spin is really only offering a subsidy of around $50 per eligible household.

The voters are in the city. A small exception is Tasmania, which is a swinging state and gets $1.20 back for every $1.00 in GST and was also the first state to get the NBN.

I have contacted Sen Conroy's office with the $220 co-payment question and did not get a YES/NO answer but was instead directed to the digitalready website, which is an insult and I informed his office that I now know the $220 is a fact.

You may get a $40 settop box supplied and installed free of charge but not a VAST decoder.

[viewer]

It's just not a fair playing field is it

[viewer]

http://www.dailytele...i-1226084531101

[domi]

domi, on Jun 30 2011, 07:18 AM, said:

I have contacted Sen Conroy's office with the $220 co-payment question and did not get a YES/NO answer but was instead directed to the digitalready website, which is an insult and I informed his office that I now know the $220 is a fact.

You may get a $40 settop box supplied and installed free of charge but not a VAST decoder.

OK. I stand corrected. An installer has to come out and may even instal a dish. A VAST decoder might cost me $270; it depends how far the installer has to come out and how long it takes him. I forgot to include the installation cost in other words. Still, Sen. Conroy's office should not have been so economical with the truth and admitted the $220 co-payment suggestion for a VAST installation.

[Gollumdood]

The VAST system is a big improvement on the Aurora platform and I have actually managed to install a couple of decoders as upgrades for a customer who lives in a valley and was granted Aurora access 3 years ago, as no hope of analogue or digital FTA. Whole VAST upgrade pretty painless and the help desk very efficient when the smart cards refused to initiate despite being hit a number of times. Support desk sent FW upgrade request over the air and problem solved. Top marks to them.

HOWEVER as we are in Adelaide area and not due for switchoff until 2013 applying for new VAST installations seems to be more of an issue. The website constantly loops back to the switchoff dates and I suspect that even if the client is prepared to bear the full cost of the install the Govt. is unwilling to allow this to happen before the 6 months pre switchoff period in case the customer then decides to ask for compensation.

Anyone had any successes applying for the service?

[alanh]

Gollumdood,
It is DBCDE policy that the only ones who can get VAST coverage are those in the remote area licence area, locations with analog already switched off , those already on Aurora (because they have already prooved insufficient signal from terrestrial transmitters) and those who can prove that at 10 m above the ground there is sufficient signal.

The last group have to wait until 6 months prior to the anlog switch off. This is so that the installation of all digital translators has occurred. Remember from the customers' point of view, most would rather have local programming (including local advertising) rather than that aimed at the centre of Australia (and even less relevant advertising).

This information is available on the www.digitalready.gov.au

AlanH

[GoForMoe]

alanh, on Jul 7 2011, 08:36 PM, said:

The last group have to wait until 6 months prior to the anlog switch off. This is so that the installation of all digital translators has occurred. Remember from the customers' point of view, most would rather have local programming (including local advertising) rather than that aimed at the centre of Australia (and even less relevant advertising).

Yes, but in most cases we already know if an area will not have a translator upgraded. I can't see the justification for a 6 month limit when someone's in an area that will never get digital, but has a sufficient analogue signal not to be Aurora (and therefore VAST) eligible.

[viewer]

GoForMoe, on Jul 7 2011, 09:14 PM, said:

Yes, but in most cases we already know if an area will not have a translator upgraded. I can't see the justification for a 6 month limit when someone's in an area that will never get digital, but has a sufficient analogue signal not to be Aurora (and therefore VAST) eligible.

+ 1

[justin25]

I have vast in Adelaide metro and it is great as it eliminates the 30 minute time difference between here and the eastern states great for sport.  Just apply for the travelers option and you can automatically renew it at the end of 6 months.

[jaydenillman]

justin25, on Aug 22 2011, 02:08 PM, said:

I have vast in Adelaide metro and it is great as it eliminates the 30 minute time difference between here and the eastern states great for sport.  Just apply for the travelers option and you can automatically renew it at the end of 6 months.

What state do you have it registered to?

[Smacca]

Don't answer! It's a trap.

Edited by Smacca, 24 August 2011 - 10:30 PM.

[jaydenillman]

Smacca, on Aug 24 2011, 10:00 PM, said:

Don't answer! It's a trap.

ಠ_ಠ

I'm not alanh...

[Smacca]

Phew, because I do not want.

[jaydenillman]

Smacca, on Aug 25 2011, 11:37 AM, said:

Phew, because I do not want.

I kind of want (its very funny watching him argue his point)