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[Strobe]

dodo, on Sep 26 2004, 11:33 PM, said:

Anarchi,

Cuttermaran now has the ability to remux automatically after cutting the video (the download now comes with mplex1 included).

So now all I have to do to make a DVD of an SDTV recording is:
1. Convert & demux with ProjectX
2. Cut out ads and remux with Cuttermaran
3. Put the resulting MPEG into Ulead DVD Movie Factory that came with my DVD burner
4. Add chapters/menu if desired, or just auto-add chapters every 10 mins
5. Burn to DVD.

Managed to do all this to yesterday's Grand Final in a couple of hours.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Cut out steps 1 and 2 with VideoReDo. Then you just shove the mpeg into Ulead etc... What Card do you have Dodo?? I too tried to record the Grand Final, but 15 mins into the first quarter my Aver A771 crashed my comp - totally and absolutley frozen.

[Pizza the Hut]

Why fork out for VideoRedo? If your primary task is DVB > DVD and you're going to spend some money, you may as well just buy TMPGEnc DVD Author. Granted, its editor isn't up to Cuttermaran/Mpeg2Schnitt/VideoRedo standard, but this is more than made up for (IMHO) by the time saved in not having to output the edited file before putting it into the DVD authoring program, and in not having to insert chapters manually.

Basically, TDVDA can cover steps 2-5. Hopefully step 1 will be eliminated if/when Nebula's DVD recording format becomes reliable.

[dodo]

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Cut out steps 1 and 2 with VideoReDo. Then you just shove the mpeg into Ulead etc... What Card do you have Dodo?? I too tried to record the Grand Final, but 15 mins into the first quarter my Aver A771 crashed my comp - totally and absolutley frozen.

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I have a Nebula card. I did try using the record to DVD format option in the DigiTV software, but it didn't work properly when I recorded the qualifying final (the final DVD I created had audio/video out of sync), so I used ProjectX instead on my Semifinal test, which worked fine, so I didn't want to mess around with something that worked! So for now I'll be recording the Transport Stream and fixing/demuxing with ProjectX until the next version of DigiTV comes along.

[murrayt]

Dodo

I recommend you use DigiTv 3.12b3 and record without using the direct to DVD option.

Then use the DVDConverter in DigiTv's tools section. You should find this works extremely well. The resulting file can be used directly to Author a DVD and there should be no lip sync issues arising. You won't need to bother with Project.X

[sammo2828]

Anyone tried mencoder (part of mplayer package) for converting to divx without demuxing?

[physwizz]

I've found a much easier way to do this whole thing.

When I got my DVD burner, it came with Nero 6. All you need to do is to take the .mpg file into Nero and edit it to remove the ads. A menu is automatically included and you can then add chapters either automatically or manually and these will appear on the menu. Then just burn it to a DVD.

I've only done it with a 1 hour program (The Great Outdoors) so far. The next step is to try a full movie.

It's so easy. No demuxing or muxing. No problem at all

[Anarchi]

Thanks physwizz I wasn't aware Nero 6 could do all that. I'll check it out.

[dcallan]

Anarchi, on Oct 14 2004, 12:02 PM, said:

Thanks physwizz I wasn't aware Nero 6 could do all that. I'll check it out.

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Unless the lastest patches for v6 make it DVB-aware, I'm not so sure it can  
Please let us know how it goes with a (DVB format) Nebula recording. I suspect that this is just another Fusion-recording fluke like PaulP33 had. I have heard the same from some Vplus owners as well (that they can take their PVA files straight into DVD authoring apps) and I suggest that their DTV software is doing some minor re-packetising as it records the stream to a file (probably nothing more than a "cleanup" buffer to re-order the packets). DigiTV on the other hand seems to just write the broadcast stream straight to disk (and consequently those MPG files are rarely usable without some demux/cleanup/conversion first). </broken record>

No offence intended PhysWizz, the Nero6 suggestion is great for a quick solution, but can we please qualify whether something works for ALL major cards before we put it into this sticky guide?
Also, can we clarify if this is done through Nero6 DVD-Video Plugin (Nero Ultra version only) or with the NeroVision Express tool (or other)? Thanks

Sorry just being pedantic again

[Anarchi]

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but can we please qualify whether something works for ALL major cards before we put it into this sticky guide?

I only have the Nebula, so the guide is based on my experience with Nebula recordings.
If others with other cards are willing to test the utilities in the guide and post your outcome, I will update the guide accordingly.

[physwizz]

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No offence intended PhysWizz, the Nero6 suggestion is great for a quick solution, but can we please qualify whether something works for ALL major cards before we put it into this sticky guide?
Also, can we clarify if this is done through Nero6 DVD-Video Plugin (Nero Ultra version only) or with the NeroVision Express tool (or other)? Thanks

Sorry just being pedantic again :P
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I wasn't aware that different cards recorded different .mpg files! I know it doesn't work with the .ts file.

Another program which will allow you to very easily edit the .mpg file from the dvico fusion HDTV card is Ulead Movie Factory 3, but I found Nero version 6 much easier to use.

[GLO]

physwizz, on Oct 14 2004, 03:28 PM, said:

dcallan, on Oct 14 2004, 01:06 PM, said:

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No offence intended PhysWizz, the Nero6 suggestion is great for a quick solution, but can we please qualify whether something works for ALL major cards before we put it into this sticky guide?
Also, can we clarify if this is done through Nero6 DVD-Video Plugin (Nero Ultra version only) or with the NeroVision Express tool (or other)? Thanks

Sorry just being pedantic again

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I wasn't aware that different cards recorded different .mpg files! I know it doesn't work with the .ts file.

Another program which will allow you to very easily edit the .mpg file from the dvico fusion HDTV card is Ulead Movie Factory 3, but I found Nero version 6 much easier to use.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Will Nero also readily convert the HD Digital recordings? As this is where i am having the major hurdle!

Thanks

[djmaurice]

fired up project x
demuxed it to PVA
fired up PVA
demuxed to native .mpg

Could Someone explain these steps EXACTLY?  I've used project X, but it converts to mpg.

[physwizz]

GLO, on Oct 14 2004, 06:11 PM, said:

Will Nero also readily convert the HD Digital recordings? As this is where i am having the major hurdle!

Thanks

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll give it a try and I'll let you know how it goes.

[datvman]

physwizz, on Oct 15 2004, 11:52 AM, said:

GLO, on Oct 14 2004, 06:11 PM, said:

Will Nero also readily convert the HD Digital recordings? As this is where i am having the major hurdle!

Thanks

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll give it a try and I'll let you know how it goes.

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yes it does accept HD and downconverts them. Also, i cant get the cut tool to work properly in nero, PLEASE HELP. i need to cut the adds out

[physwizz]

datvman, on Oct 15 2004, 04:10 PM, said:

physwizz, on Oct 15 2004, 11:52 AM, said:

GLO, on Oct 14 2004, 06:11 PM, said:

Will Nero also readily convert the HD Digital recordings? As this is where i am having the major hurdle!

Thanks

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll give it a try and I'll let you know how it goes.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

yes it does accept HD and downconverts them. Also, i cant get the cut tool to work properly in nero, PLEASE HELP. i need to cut the adds out

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hit the cut button and then slide in the markers on both ends of the slider to cut out the ad. There's also little up down arrows that give you a fine adjustment to within one frame. Then hit cut again.

Repeat this for all the ads. I too had trouble to start but Once I got used to it there was no trouble at all.

Right now Nero is telling me it's going to take 3.75 hours to transcode and burn 1h and 5 min of the HD Demo loop.

I wonder if it will keep the 5.1 sound?

[physwizz]

It looks loke nerovision won't accept ac3 sound at all.

[evolve]

I commonly use Avisynth (a free scripted frameserver) in conjuction with Virtualdub (a free video editor).  I use this method to convert my HD captures into a suitable Divx format (1280x720p), and set the bitrate to 3.3Mbps, resulting in awesome quality.  I also use this method to convert HD content to DVD; all I do is change the resize value in my script.  Easy!

If you want I can make up a guide on how to use the free and powerful tools.

Tim

[HyperReality]

evolve, on Oct 24 2004, 07:12 PM, said:

If you want I can make up a guide on how to use the free and powerful tools.

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Please do!

[benchdog]

Has anyone been able to sucessfully burn a dvd with the ads removed and the ac3 5.1 sound track intact? Following the thread so far I have only been able to get usable dvd's with mpeg2 sound.

[Sigildark]

whoops, how do i delete this post?

[Sigildark]

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I wasn't aware that different cards recorded different .mpg files! I know it doesn't work with the .ts file.

Another program which will allow you to very easily edit the .mpg file from the dvico fusion HDTV card is Ulead Movie Factory 3, but I found Nero version 6 much easier to use.

The problem with working with the .mpg files created by the fusion HDTV card is the audio and video getting out of sync. You can also NOT rely on the FusionConverter program to fix this issue (even though i have contacted DVICO and requested that they put this functionality into their software which in my opinion is a bug).

The only way i have found to fix the audio/video sync issue is to capture the transport stream and use ProjectX to convert to seperate streams. This also seems like a good point at which to mention that the videoRedo program that someone suggested "can avoid some of the steps" cannot work with the transport stream (.tp) captured by the fusion card.

All of this i have discovered in my research over the last 2 weeks with the intention of transferring digital TV to DVD.

After using ProjectX to fix the audio/sync issue, i use mpeg2shnitt to remove the ads, then i use Sony DVD Architect to create the DVD. This software i found to be the essential component which finally solved most of my woes. Namely, it can:

- import the seperate streams (no need to remux then import),
- work with and even encode to ac3,
- import HD resolutions and re-encode them to DVD resolutions (i found that MPEG Video Wizard does a lousy job of the re-encode process and i would recommend against its use for such),
- report when re-encoding is not necessary (if the stream is SD),
- allow you to re-encode to fit onto one DVD (although i just let it create an oversized DVD then use DVD2One to shrink it down. this way it doesnt have to re-encode but just transcode (unfortunately this is 1 thing that Architect doesnt seem to be able to do))

The only other thing i found i required for perfect HD and SD conversions to DVD is the IFOEDIT pan & scan fix for 4:3 in 16:9 transmissions as mentioned somewhere else in this forum.

May all benefit from this information as i have benefited from various forums over the years.

[physwizz]

I have recently had some success with HD streams as follows:

1. Record HD stream (say test.tp)

2. Demux using Project X (or change the name to test.ts before demuxing with PVA Strumento)
    This gives two files test.mpv and test.ac3

3. Convert test.ac3 to test.mp2 using "BeSweet"

4. Remux test.mpv and test.mp2 into a single file test.mpg using the command line program "mplex1.exe" using the following command:
    mplex1.exe test.mpv test.mp2 test.mpg

5. Then just put test.mpg into Nerovision2 to edit and burn

[falco]

anybody else lose the bottom of the cuttermaran window. I presume thats why I cant find anywhere to delete selection.

[datvman]

okidokie heres how i do it, and i would like comments as i am getting problems

1. fire up project X and demux .tp file
2. open mpeg2shnitt and cut the adds and save into another .m2v and .mp2 file
3. open nerovision 2 and goto make new movie and add movie and sound stream
4. burn DVD

now the problem i am having is that nero will want to convert the interlaced image to progressive by weaving, meaning i get 25fps as apposed to interlanced/50fields per second. It looks like all saints and heelers, looks crap. i want my 50 fields, how do i fix it??

thanks

datvman

[Aladdin]

Dont use Nerovision, remux the result files from the mpeg cutter, then burn the file onto a DVD.  Your DVD player should recoginize the file and play it fine.