Tassie Devil

Magic Pvr Arrived Today

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The Topfield 7100 in the other room is faulty so I looked at replacing it with a third MAGIC - but none seem available anywhere. And what a heap of trash on offer on the net! .... [snip]

Sort of hard to remember the days of multiple VCRs and even further back when forced to view those ghost ridden analog programs as they were broadcast. We have sort of come a long way!!

We certainly have. I had a couple of up-market VCRs repaired as digital TV was introduced, just in case my new PVR or the broadcasts failed. They're still wrapped in plastic, became door stops for a while and then went to the basement ... somewhere.

I followed this thread on and off since its inception thinking a Magic PVR would be a more than suitable replacement for my aging Toppy 5000 now doing secondary duty under Mrs Wing Nut's TV - even better than buying another Toppy 2400. But thanks to new capacitors and an electronically un-demanding spouse, the 5000 is still going OK and I might have missed the MagicTV boat! :(

Checking alternatives and you're right about the PVR-type trash on the net - I'm in trouble when the 5000 finally expires! I certainly hope the rumours of Magic's demise aren't going to turn out to be true.

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Hi Wing Nut,

As a long time Toppy 5000 (MP) owner, I understand your affection for the old girl. However, whenever I actually use the 5000, I am reminded of how dated it is. Still very functional, but slow and clunky compared with my Toppy 2400 and linked Beyonwiz PVRs.

While there haven't been any big leaps forward on the PVR scene for the last couple of years, the established specialist brands do a pretty good job. I too watched the MagicTV with interest and am disappointed by its (apparent) demise. It seemed to offer a good alternative with some interesting options at an excellent price. If something like that can't succeed, I don't know what will - probably some over hyped, over priced rubbish with a 'known' brand badge. Thinking back to the terrible past PVR offerings by Sony, Toshiba and LG put me off trying anything from a 'big' brand.

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Yes, the 5000 is dated, but with the other half saying she was quite content with the old Toppy and we didn't need a new one, I wasn't able to sneak a 'very capable and cheap' (my words) MagicTV under 'her' TV at the time. Now, when it might all be too late, she starts asking me to record something off an HD channel for her on 'my' 2400! I suspect this request was the thin end of a very big wedge :whistle:

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The TS provided by Harves indicates that 7 Network in Geraldton wrongly sets EIT_schedule_flag and EIT_present_following_flag to 0 in its Service Description Table (SDT).

This beta firmware ignores this broadcast error.

I have been trying to get the EPG broadcast error fixed in Western Australia, for those users who don't read this forum and whose enquiries didn't reach me. It turns out that Seven Network is not responsible for this area. It should be Golden West Network instead. I guess this might be obvious to experts in dtvforum, but I didn't know that before.

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Regards the demise of the Magic TV PVR. I don't want to put WKLIE on the spot but perhaps he could weigh in the topic. I went looking for a current user manual yesterday and found the Australian web site is gone. Wklie is providing great personalised support via this forum, but surely that isn't sustainable in the long term. Will an alternate product be availble in Australia or will Australia firmware be made available for the products listed on the HK or NZ websites? I love my Magic TV and its a real shame to see a great product die a death after such a brief and bright life.

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Regards the demise of the Magic TV PVR. I don't want to put WKLIE on the spot but perhaps he could weigh in the topic. I went looking for a current user manual yesterday and found the Australian web site is gone.

Seems ok now:

http://www.magictv.com/au/index.html

http://www.magictv.com/au/downloads/MTV4000PVR-Owners-Guide-v1.0.pdf

http://www.magictv.com/au/downloads/MTV-AU-Owners-Guide-v1.0.pdf

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There is no worries for the Magic TV Australia web site to disappear any time soon. As for using Australia firmware for Hong Kong products, that's impossible because the hardware is different.

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I've noticed that with the latest firmware, every time I change the channel after about a second the full iPanel appears for 1 second and then disappears. Is it possible to stop this from occuring?

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I've noticed that with the latest firmware, every time I change the channel after about a second the full iPanel appears for 1 second and then disappears. Is it possible to stop this from occuring?

That panel display can be turned off in settings, if that's what you're asking.

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OK folks, here is a weird one to find the answer to.

After purchasing MAGIC no 2 one PVR had to be changed to an alternate set of IR codes. I chose unit 1 which had operated faultlessly on the original code set for several months. First up I tried the playstation set but moved on to the Windows remote set. The odd behaviour is when I first power on it will fire up, settle down with a blip of audio but then switch off again. At times this does not happen but other times it will take 4 start up attempts before it stays on. All other functions are normal & no problems with timer start ups to record.

Suggestions?

TIA

John

EDIT POSTSCRIPT: It does seem as if the start up code is being transmitted twice - it first switches it on, then subsequently off. To eliminate that possibility I have quickly turned the remote away after pressing the ON/OFF button but it still seems to occur.

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First up I tried the playstation set but moved on to the Windows remote set.

Do you mean you first tried the Xbox 360 remote code, then switched to the Microsoft MCE remote code? Have you got an authentic MCE remote?

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Do you mean you first tried the Xbox 360 remote code, then switched to the Microsoft MCE remote code? Have you got an authentic MCE remote?

Yes I do mean that - apologies for the fuzzy description - I have cleverly mislaid both the Manuals, tried to find them on the net but failed, so had to resort to crude descriptions.

I switched from the Xbox remote because the one purchased on the net was a "cut down" one with no number buttons. The MCE remote appears to be authentic but again it was from e-bay so appearances can be deceptive. Bottom line I might have a bad remote - the only explanation I can think of. It must be sometimes transmitting only one code (correct) but sometimes flips to two. Suggestions about where to get a reliable remote I could rely upon welcomed.

John

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OK folks, here is a weird one to find the answer to.

I've also got one of my Magic's operating with an MCE remote.

Sometimes when I turn it on it briefly shows what looks like a line of computer code on the front screen before the usual "Magic TV" appears.

Don't know if it has anything to do with the "remote setting" on the Magic or not though. It could be just a quirk with my particular machine. Other than that its behaviour has been exemplary.

Maybe you could try making unit 2 the MCE machine and see if it that helps.

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Sometimes when I turn it on it briefly shows what looks like a line of computer code on the front screen before the usual "Magic TV" appears.

If you're using low power energy saving modes, that's normal. It's due to some electronics-level stuff concerning the front panel display hardware that I can't explain.

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The MCE remote appears to be authentic but again it was from e-bay so appearances can be deceptive.

Does the MCE remote sends multiple signals for other buttons as well, such as the arrow buttons (in Recorded Programme List)?

Please also try pressing the power button quickly and with less pressure. There is a mechanism in the Magic TV to prevent something like from happening - consecutive power button presses are ignored. For the remote to defeat this mechanism it has to resend the signal for a relatively long time. To test this mechanism, use the Magic TV remote on the other unit, and presses the power button twice.

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Does the MCE remote sends multiple signals for other buttons as well, such as the arrow buttons (in Recorded Programme List)?

Please also try pressing the power button quickly and with less pressure. There is a mechanism in the Magic TV to prevent something like from happening - consecutive power button presses are ignored. For the remote to defeat this mechanism it has to resend the signal for a relatively long time. To test this mechanism, use the Magic TV remote on the other unit, and presses the power button twice.

No, but I think I have it working OK now - the codes have been transferred on to an HTM Universal remote and all seems good so far (touch wood).

Thanks for the help everyone

John

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I have been busy converting video files to M2TS to play using 'MTV Gadgets Camcorder Videos' and they are looking good through the Magic Chipset in fact very good. I have not got round to converting 720 MkV files to M2TS but expect them to be stunning.

The only problem is converting AVI takes ages I am using DVDFab and ANYDVD for conversions, the best way is to leave them overnight to do the conversion.

It would be nice if the Magic could play a variety of video codecs.

I have a 1080P Netgear Media Streamer but I think the Magic is very close.

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I have been busy converting video files to M2TS to play using 'MTV Gadgets Camcorder Videos' and they are looking good through the Magic Chipset in fact very good. I have not got round to converting 720 MkV files to M2TS but expect them to be stunning.

I have a 1080P Netgear Media Streamer but I think the Magic is very close.

Which Netgear model do you have? Why use the Magic TV for video file playback if your Netgear does the job?

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Which Netgear model do you have? Why use the Magic TV for video file playback if your Netgear does the job?

I have a EVA8000 which does a good job but the Firmware is a bit clunky and crashes more times than you would like.

The Magic does playback the files very well apart from the time taken doing conversions.

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I have a EVA8000 which does a good job but the Firmware is a bit clunky and crashes more times than you would like.

The Magic does playback the files very well apart from the time taken doing conversions.

EVA8000 uses a much older Sigma Designs 8623, compared to the 8655 used in Magic TV. In this case there's no question the 8655 will have better video quality and deinterlacing than 8623 if the same file can be played directly. A recent Netgear product has 8642, which is more advanced than 8655.

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Glad my eyes were not deceiving me. Just converted a 720MkV file and yes it looks fantastic. I need a new Netgear streamer.

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I need a new Netgear streamer.

Before you go buy one, I'd like to stress that none of the Sigma chips can decode H.264 Profile Level 5 (as far as I know). I did encounter some MKV with H.264 Profile Level 5, and I believe most of the hardware players cannot play it. Even if they are encoded at level 4.x, they may use exotic encoding parameters that would not be supported by hardware players. Eventually I decided to have a full-blown PC setup connected to the TV for video file playback.

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Ha Ha not going to chuck the EVA8000 cost too much back then. Must say it has played every MKV I have fed it so far. (TV Progs).

For the Magic just converted to M2TS looks very nice.

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